John’s really hung up on the name of a type of cookie… the listeners are all pretty convinced he’s thinking about a macaroon (or macaron), but John disagrees. Jon talks about some of his jobs while he was growing up and expresses his love for all things wood.

Then It’s time to talk to another side hustle… this time its HookedbyCharleen who makes bags out of plastic shopping bags on Etsy.

Check out Charleen’s bags here …Use the promo code “HEFFRONANDREEP” for a discount.