The calendar year is winding down, but there’s still big barbecue news and events happening around the Carolinas. In this episode of The Low & Slow Barbecue Show we hit a few highlights, including Prime BBQ pitmaster Chris Prieto’s new venture in Durham. We talk about some of our favorite barbecue places in the media spotlight and celebrate the effort by Hickory Soup Kitchen and Operation BBQ Relief to feed more than 200 families in Hickory, NC. And with a big new barbecue business in town – we talk a little bit about Jim N’ Nick’s, but we visited a local favorite and share the review of Hugh’s Q.
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[00:00:04] The calendar year is winding down, but there's still big barbecue news and events happening around the Carolinas.
[00:00:11] We're going to hit some highlights, including Prom Barbecue's Chris Prieto's new venture in Durham.
[00:00:17] Some of our favorite barbecue places are in the media spotlight again.
[00:00:21] And Operation Barbecue Relief's part of an effort to feed more than 200 families in the Hickory Metro of North Carolina.
[00:00:28] We've got details coming up and a review of one of my Carolina barbecue favorites, Hughes Q.
[00:00:34] It's a great local spot that now finds itself kind of in the shadow of a big new barbecue business coming into town.
[00:00:41] I'm Chigger Willard, your host for the Low & Slow Barbecue Show.
[00:00:45] Thank you so much for dialing up this episode into your life today.
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[00:01:17] Anyway, to the news from this week's Lowdown. And after we hit news, we're going to give you our big barbecue review of Hughes Q.
[00:01:24] So first, our lead story today.
[00:01:27] Prime barbecue pit master Christopher Prieto is expanding his barbecue brand.
[00:01:32] He's got a new venture in Durham's Horseshoe at the Hub RTP development.
[00:01:38] That's slated to open in spring of 2025.
[00:01:41] They're calling it Prime STQ.
[00:01:43] And it's going to combine a steakhouse experience with Texas barbecue and the Puerto Rican inspired flavors that folks have kind of come to know from some of Chris's other ventures.
[00:01:53] That's the ventures. That's the primo Latin cuisine concept restaurant behind Prime Barbecue.
[00:01:59] But of course, a lot of other people, they know Chris from Prime Barbecue.
[00:02:03] And he's been on TV, a Food Network barbecue battle and a few other things.
[00:02:07] You know, his business in Nightdale draws plenty of praise, including a number two ranking in Texas Monthly's top 50 barbecue joints in the United States.
[00:02:17] He's also gotten recognition in Southern Living Magazine's top 50 restaurants in the South.
[00:02:23] So now he's going to be expanding to more of a steakhouse feel from what everything I'm seeing is that it's also going to have some of that barbecue flavor to it as well.
[00:02:32] So that's how you can combine the name there, the STQ Steakhouse and Barbecue.
[00:02:37] So it's Prime STQ.
[00:02:39] It's going to feature, according to their press release, it kind of hit the news wires on Monday.
[00:02:44] There'll be an 8,000 square foot restaurant space in a standalone building.
[00:02:49] Barbecue favorites and elevated dinner service, all part of the menu.
[00:02:53] There'll be a custom steak program with house aged beef, 16 handcrafted cocktails, beer, bourbon, wine, all the good stuff from a full bar.
[00:03:02] And of course, indoor and outdoor seating for 250 people, at least, as well as private dining.
[00:03:09] So find out more about this as that project develops.
[00:03:12] Just follow Christopher Prieto on Instagram at barbecue underscore nerd.
[00:03:17] He's the barbecue nerd.
[00:03:18] You keep track of Prime STQ's progress.
[00:03:21] Other news, Hickory Soup Kitchen's working with Operation Barbecue Relief and volunteers
[00:03:26] and donors in the local community to help feed more than 200 families in need for Thanksgiving.
[00:03:32] I'm calling it Operation Turkey Smoke.
[00:03:36] Austin Kincaid and the team at Hickory Soup Kitchen probably have a better name for it.
[00:03:40] But what it boils down to is it's a buy one, give one turkey fundraiser.
[00:03:44] People in the community bought a turkey.
[00:03:46] And as part of that purchase, they also donated a turkey that goes back to Hickory Soup Kitchen.
[00:03:50] And that raised enough frozen turkeys to feed more than 200 families in need in the Hickory Metro on Thanksgiving.
[00:03:57] And right now, as I understand it, the turkey thaw is underway.
[00:04:01] They'll go into a brine for 24 hours as they actually, right before we recorded this episode,
[00:04:06] they were getting that brine ready.
[00:04:08] Turkeys are going to go into the brine.
[00:04:09] And then Scotty Jarrett is going to spend a whole bunch of time smoking turkeys.
[00:04:14] I got a chance to meet with Scotty at the Carolina Barbecue Festival.
[00:04:17] He's a really active volunteer with Operation Barbecue Relief and helps coordinate this event for Hickory Soup Kitchen every year.
[00:04:24] And of course, Operation Barbecue Relief is involved in kind of providing the turkeys.
[00:04:28] And Scotty is a smoker as well as efforts and coordination there from Scotty.
[00:04:33] They're all a big part of that.
[00:04:34] And then all those turkeys, they go and support the Thanksgiving meals, like I said, for 200 families.
[00:04:39] It's going to be a great event.
[00:04:41] And hey, why don't you follow us on Low and Slow Barbecue Show?
[00:04:43] I'll try to pop over to Soup Kitchen and get pictures and video of the smoking in the giveaway and stay tuned.
[00:04:51] I've been after Scotty to join me on the podcast for a while.
[00:04:54] But as you can probably imagine lately, he's been a pretty busy guy.
[00:04:58] Hopefully, we'll have him on real soon.
[00:05:00] If nothing else, we look forward to seeing him live on our Instagram.
[00:05:04] Just follow us and see what happens.
[00:05:06] Meanwhile, Skylight Inn has been named among the top roadside restaurants in the South.
[00:05:11] People in the down east part of North Carolina probably know it still as Pete Jones Barbecue, but Skylight Inn is the official name.
[00:05:18] And Southern Living's latest tally of the top roadside restaurants across the South features three North Carolina stops, actually.
[00:05:27] It includes the eastern barbecue favorite there, Skylight Inn.
[00:05:31] And the list also includes other Carolina restaurants, Cafe Ariel in Franklin and Caromy Dining Room in Tryon.
[00:05:40] And unfortunately, Caromy Dining Room was completely destroyed during the Hurricane Helene flood.
[00:05:45] They look like they're trying to find a place to relocate.
[00:05:48] So good luck to those guys.
[00:05:50] A couple of other notable barbecue stops on that roadside restaurant list.
[00:05:53] They were in Tennessee.
[00:05:55] Fat Tiger Korean Barbecue in Moore and White Bluff.
[00:05:59] That's in White Bluff.
[00:06:00] Fat Tiger Korean in White Bluff.
[00:06:02] And B.E. Scott's Barbecue in Lexington.
[00:06:05] So some barbecue stops are also good road stops in the Southern Living list.
[00:06:10] And that B.E. Scott's Barbecue, again, in Lexington, Tennessee.
[00:06:14] You can see the complete list of all those roadside restaurants at Southern Living.
[00:06:20] Just drop it into the search engine.
[00:06:22] Speaking of lists, Charleston's barbecue scene keeps getting the love.
[00:06:26] Palmyra Barbecue and King Barbecue were both recognized among the best new restaurants in the Charleston city.
[00:06:34] Meanwhile, the latest edition of Condé Nash Traveler has a cool restaurant review spotlight on Palmyra.
[00:06:40] A memorable quote from that review.
[00:06:43] That review written by Stephanie Burt.
[00:06:45] She had to say, Palmyra Barbecue is made for those in search of stick-to-your-bones meals or items to bring to a party at tailgate.
[00:06:54] Families who are hanging together on the weekends.
[00:06:57] Friends who want to keep it casual.
[00:06:59] And barbecue aficionados who want a new punch on their barbecue fan card.
[00:07:04] Check that out again.
[00:07:06] A restaurant review in the Condé Nash Traveler for Palmyra Barbecue.
[00:07:09] One of our favorite new barbecue joints of the past year or so.
[00:07:12] So, it's barbecue festival season.
[00:07:15] It's kind of actually winded down, right?
[00:07:18] Cold winter months are here.
[00:07:20] But there's still plenty of stuff going on with the Carolina Barbecue Festival itself.
[00:07:25] All of our friends there.
[00:07:26] Sweet Lou and the gang at Let's Meet Charlotte.
[00:07:29] Have you got your early bird tickets yet?
[00:07:31] You know, you can only get those if you subscribe to the events newsletter.
[00:07:36] You do that today and just look out for your inbox.
[00:07:38] The Carolina Barbecue Festival team is sending out exclusive links to ticket sales sites where you can get those early bird tickets at a discount.
[00:07:47] And actually, it's a discount on top of a discount.
[00:07:51] CarolinaBarbecueFest.org.
[00:07:53] Just scroll to the bottom.
[00:07:54] Look for the newsletter.
[00:07:55] Sign up.
[00:07:55] Again, that's the best way to keep track of the latest festival news.
[00:07:58] This year's Pitmasters and Music lineup.
[00:08:01] Carolina Barbecue Festival.
[00:08:02] Again, of course, this year is April 4th and 5th, 2025.
[00:08:05] That's next year, I should say, in Victoria Yards in Charlotte.
[00:08:10] And you can get tickets before anybody else.
[00:08:12] Membership has its privileges.
[00:08:14] Make sure you're a member.
[00:08:16] Subscribe to the newsletter.
[00:08:18] In barbecue competition news, the Ultimate Tailgaters finished Southern Barbecue Network's 2024 competition season with a grand championship.
[00:08:26] That was at Vicious Pig Barbecue Throwdown in Stedman, North Carolina.
[00:08:30] We had the Ultimate Tailgaters on the show here a little while back.
[00:08:34] And those guys stay really busy, especially around South Carolina Gamecocks sports, football, baseball.
[00:08:39] They're the official barbecue providers.
[00:08:41] So they've been real busy the past few weekends.
[00:08:43] And on top of all the sports, they just won themselves a new notch in the grand championship belt from Southern Barbecue Network.
[00:08:49] And actually, in that competition, they finished first in the rib category and second in port.
[00:08:56] Speaking of the Southern Barbecue Network, we talked about the Kid Q competition a few weeks back with Will Engelhoff, the president of Southern Barbecue Network.
[00:09:06] And they had their SBN Invitational in Monk's Corner.
[00:09:10] It featured eight competitors in the Kid's Q competition.
[00:09:13] I'm excited to announce the junior champion is Tegan Butters.
[00:09:16] She's with the Smoker and Cher barbecue team from Winston-Salem.
[00:09:20] And get a load of what Tegan brought to the competition, a bacon cheese smash burger with sauteed tallow onions on a Hawaiian bun with fresh sliced tomato and lettuce.
[00:09:32] Man, that sounds fantastic.
[00:09:33] And that's in the junior category.
[00:09:36] So the senior champion for Southern Barbecue Network's Kid's Q competition with the SBN Invitational is Kendall Holt.
[00:09:44] She's cooking with the On The Q team from Conway, South Carolina.
[00:09:48] And her preparation was impressive, too.
[00:09:52] She provided a pork tenderloin that was rubbed in money honey and ecstasy seasoning.
[00:09:57] That's some rub brands I'm not completely familiar with.
[00:09:59] I'm sure they're great.
[00:10:00] But then she smoked it on her Rectech Bullseye with Royal Oak charcoal pellets and really wowed the judges there.
[00:10:06] So of the eight competitors, those were a couple of the winners.
[00:10:08] And so congratulations to those folks.
[00:10:11] One more news items before we head to Hughes Reviews.
[00:10:15] The American Royal inducted Grady's Barbecue founder Steve Grady into the Barbecue Hall of Fame on November 2nd.
[00:10:23] A lot of folks are probably familiar with Grady's down east in Dudley.
[00:10:28] And they've been operated since 1986.
[00:10:31] Grady and his wife, Jerry, opened it up back then.
[00:10:34] And they serve whole hog barbecue that's been cooked over open pits and wood coals.
[00:10:39] And Grady was inducted into that American Royal Hall of Fame alongside three inductees and three legacy inductees.
[00:10:47] Those are folks that have passed on.
[00:10:48] Among those legacy inductees were Big Bob Gibson.
[00:10:52] You may know that name.
[00:10:53] He created his own style of pit barbecue in Alabama.
[00:10:57] White sauce and Grady's induction this month into the American Royal Barbecue Hall of Fame follows his induction earlier in this year.
[00:11:06] He was part of the inaugural class of inductees into the North Carolina Barbecue Hall of Fame.
[00:11:11] So congratulations to Steve Grady and his wife, Jerry, on that recognition.
[00:11:15] Now, on to the Hughes Review.
[00:11:17] I've been talking about this.
[00:11:18] And I probably mentioned Hughes Q on this show a few times here.
[00:11:24] I'm a big fan.
[00:11:25] What can I say?
[00:11:26] And part of the reason I wanted to talk about Hughes Q is, number one, I like their barbecue.
[00:11:31] And I've been a few times, like I said, I want to spread the good news to other people who may not know about it.
[00:11:37] But right now, Hickory's also abuzz with barbecue news around Jim and Nick's, which I think I probably mentioned in the last episode.
[00:11:46] I talked about it before.
[00:11:47] It's just opened in Hickory.
[00:11:49] Still haven't been.
[00:11:50] It's drawing huge crowds, heaps of praises.
[00:11:53] You can't open up the Hickory Facebook group chats and see anything without seeing something about Jim and Nick's.
[00:12:00] And it's all really good talk.
[00:12:02] Everything sounds like it's really good.
[00:12:03] I do hear the parking is a bit of an issue.
[00:12:06] They get a big crowded parking lot and they've got a drive-thru at this Jim and Nick's.
[00:12:10] And that drive-thru line, if you're in the Hickory Metro, they compare it to the Chick-fil-A line.
[00:12:15] And so if that gives you kind of any relevance, the Jim and Nick's barbecue drive-thru line really is drawing quite a crowd.
[00:12:22] And for those that you might not know, Jim and Nick's is a barbecue chain.
[00:12:26] It was originally born in Birmingham, Alabama, my hometown.
[00:12:30] Jim and Nick Pahakis started it in 1985.
[00:12:33] And since then, it's grown into a chain of restaurants across North Carolina, Georgia, Alabama, Florida.
[00:12:40] And let me tell you, the food's good.
[00:12:42] Otherwise, it would not be such a huge success.
[00:12:44] It wouldn't be drawing big crowds of people.
[00:12:46] By the way, Nick Pahakis from Jim and Nick's, he partnered with Rodney Scott to bring Rodney Scott's barbecue to Homewood.
[00:12:54] And that's where Rodney Scott's brand has quickly caught fire in the Birmingham Metro, courtesy of Nick Pahakis and that partnership.
[00:13:01] And Nick and Rodney are apparently really good friends, according to some of the media reports that I've seen.
[00:13:06] So, again, give credit to Nick and to Jim and Nick's for doing all that good stuff.
[00:13:11] And we really hope they have a lot of success.
[00:13:13] And I plan to go there.
[00:13:15] But right up the road, just a short drive, just up Highway 70 from Jim and Nick's is Hughes Q,
[00:13:21] a spot that's quickly become a favorite around Hickory.
[00:13:24] It's a local guy, Brian Rogers.
[00:13:27] He's running a local barbecue joint.
[00:13:29] I've been in there.
[00:13:30] He's doing most of the work himself.
[00:13:31] He's turning out a good product.
[00:13:34] I've been trying to connect with Brian and get him on the show.
[00:13:36] And he's staying real busy.
[00:13:37] And hopefully we'll get him on.
[00:13:39] But I did want to share my experience and some advice for you guys if you go check him out.
[00:13:43] First, it's a great location on Highway 70, kind of in the commercial district of the Hickory Metro,
[00:13:49] around the mall and hotels, convention center.
[00:13:51] It's a really central location for a lot of people working.
[00:13:54] There's a lot of room inside his little business restaurant there.
[00:13:58] They've got bar and bar seating as well as a table and table seating.
[00:14:02] And the bar's got a few on-tap drafts there.
[00:14:05] They always seem to have Schotterbach, too, which is good if you like that kind of thing.
[00:14:09] Nice Texas flavor there for Hughes Q.
[00:14:11] Another important question about a barbecue joint is, yes, there are smoking implements and wood on site.
[00:14:21] It looks like Brian's burning that smoker outside seven days a week, which that's how often they're open, seven days.
[00:14:27] You can see it out there.
[00:14:29] You can smell it right outside, just right outside beside the restaurant there.
[00:14:32] So that's cool.
[00:14:33] That adds some legitimacy to those guys.
[00:14:35] And then at the bar and around the restaurant, there's a lot of local sports memorabilia from around Lenoir-Rhyne and Catawba County Sports.
[00:14:43] Kind of a nice Hickory Metro sports flavor, too.
[00:14:45] You know what you want to see in a Hickory Metro barbecue joint.
[00:14:49] And then the food, you know, they've got the standard barbecue offerings.
[00:14:52] Pork, brisket, chicken, turkey ribs, you know, and some specials all along.
[00:14:57] Speaking of specials, you need to know Sunday and Wednesday, they've got whole smoked wings for $1.50 each.
[00:15:03] Check them out Sunday and Wednesday.
[00:15:05] Hey, Sunday's when they play some football games.
[00:15:07] That might be a good place for football and wings.
[00:15:10] I haven't been for football and wings yet, but I have been to the restaurant a few times.
[00:15:14] I've had the pulled pork.
[00:15:15] I've had the turkey, the brisket, brisket sandwich, chicken sandwich.
[00:15:20] I said I've been there a few times.
[00:15:21] Anyway, I recommend all of it.
[00:15:23] One tip for you.
[00:15:25] If you go and you get a sandwich, they come with slaw.
[00:15:29] And you want the slaw.
[00:15:30] You want to have it, but you don't want it on the sandwich.
[00:15:33] You get them to serve it to you on the side.
[00:15:35] Not as a side, but on the side.
[00:15:38] That way you get the full flavor of the meat without drowning it in slaw until you're ready to drown it in the slaw and the sauce.
[00:15:45] And by the way, when I had the chicken sandwich, man, the flavor on that chicken was really good.
[00:15:50] It had a really nice smoky flavor to it, but I just had so much slaw.
[00:15:53] So next time I'll temper the slaw and then add that a little bit later.
[00:15:57] So I mentioned the sauce and they got three varieties at the table.
[00:16:01] I really like what Hugh's got going on with the Southern Carolina gold mustard.
[00:16:06] I'm not a super huge mustard fan, though.
[00:16:08] I've probably said before mustard is growing on me a little bit.
[00:16:11] And they've got a KC style, kind of a really thick and sweet thing and a vinegar option too among the barbecue sauces there.
[00:16:18] Hugh's Q has a kid's menu with burgers and dogs, chicken tenders.
[00:16:21] So you can drag the kids along and, oh, wait a minute, I forgot the sides.
[00:16:25] So first, I love cream corn.
[00:16:27] Theirs is good.
[00:16:28] Mac and cheese, pretty standard.
[00:16:31] Jalapeno cheese grits, those are a winner.
[00:16:34] So is the sweet potato casserole.
[00:16:36] Fried okra, never a miss.
[00:16:38] Maybe not really super special, but it's not bad.
[00:16:41] But the only one side that I wasn't super high on, I think it's probably the green bean casserole.
[00:16:47] I don't really remember why.
[00:16:48] Sorry, Brian or Hughes.
[00:16:51] Hughes, it was a first visit I think I tried.
[00:16:54] It wasn't for me.
[00:16:55] I haven't ordered it again.
[00:16:57] And don't judge anything else by this opinion.
[00:16:59] Everything else at Hughes' Q is really good.
[00:17:01] And it's a popular spot at lunch.
[00:17:04] I tried to hit it on Friday.
[00:17:05] So look around on a Friday.
[00:17:07] You might spot this chigger in there.
[00:17:08] But when I've been there, there's always a really solid blue-collar crowd,
[00:17:12] a steady stream of online order pickups.
[00:17:15] That tells you something else.
[00:17:17] That Hughes' Q is good and other people like it too.
[00:17:20] Not just me.
[00:17:22] Anyway, I'm going to get to Jim and Nick's.
[00:17:24] Until then, I'm going to keep hitting Hughes' Q and the top hickory barbecue joint.
[00:17:29] Just check them out.
[00:17:29] Hughesq.com.
[00:17:31] The website's not a whole lot to speak of.
[00:17:33] Just the important stuff.
[00:17:34] How to order online.
[00:17:37] And once you do that, how to order online, you'll find the menu.
[00:17:41] And they've got meat and two or two meats and a side plates and sandwiches and sides a la carte.
[00:17:48] And they've got dessert too.
[00:17:49] The banana pudding's good.
[00:17:51] Can't miss with that.
[00:17:52] So all kinds of good stuff there on the menu.
[00:17:55] If you want to find Hughes' Q a little more visibly, check out Facebook.
[00:17:59] All along, they give out swag and stuff.
[00:18:01] I think they gave some nice tumblers out with Hughes' Q stuff on it.
[00:18:04] So check them out.
[00:18:05] And if you're in the hickory metro, definitely have a visit.
[00:18:07] And while you're in the hickory metro, if you also happen to want to have a fight with somebody,
[00:18:12] start debating which barbecue is best.
[00:18:15] Whether it's Hughes' Q, JD's, Cranfer Brothers, or Apple City.
[00:18:20] Those are the ones that are all kind of getting the hubbub going on.
[00:18:22] At least in some of those things that I see online.
[00:18:25] Anyway, that's the lowdown for this week.
[00:18:27] I'm Chigger Willard.
[00:18:29] Thanks for listening to this episode.
[00:18:30] And whatever episode you've enjoyed since we started this journey.
[00:18:34] And especially since we've started this journey in mid-February.
[00:18:38] That's when we got to produce in an episode every week.
[00:18:41] 42 straight weeks.
[00:18:43] That comes thanks to a lot of help from my producer at the Mesh.TV network of studios,
[00:18:48] Andrew Moose.
[00:18:50] 42 straight weeks of interviews with pitmasters, barbecue journalists,
[00:18:54] barbecue competitors, barbecue event planners.
[00:18:57] We've reviewed restaurants and shared recipes.
[00:19:01] And generally, hopefully we've shined a good light on barbecue, especially barbecue in North and South Carolina.
[00:19:08] Now that the holiday season's almost here, it's time for a break.
[00:19:12] Let's let the smokers cold just a little bit.
[00:19:15] Catch up on some things that's kind of been on the back burner.
[00:19:18] A bunch of blogs.
[00:19:19] I've been cooking up a few of those.
[00:19:20] And I've also kind of been voluntold to smoke pork for the welcome family Christmas.
[00:19:27] That's a whole bunch of Davidson County, Lexington barbecue people.
[00:19:30] And their expectations are going to be high.
[00:19:32] So I may have to run a few extra runs through the old Weber Smoky Mountain to get ready for that.
[00:19:37] Anyway, it's time for a break.
[00:19:38] And before we do that, I'm going to invite you guys to join us for Thanksgiving weekend edition.
[00:19:45] It's going to be great listening.
[00:19:46] I'm not going to tease too much.
[00:19:47] I want to make sure it happens.
[00:19:49] But we got something cool.
[00:19:50] It'll be a fun conversation.
[00:19:51] And then coming up in mid-December, we're also going to be planning something fun with our friends at Three Beers Down.
[00:19:58] Maybe there'll be some pulled pork barbecue.
[00:20:02] Maybe there'll be a blind taste test.
[00:20:04] Stay tuned.
[00:20:05] All that's coming in mid-December.
[00:20:08] Otherwise, we're probably going to be taking a break for a few weeks here and gear things back up once it gets to be smoking season.
[00:20:15] And when it is, we'll look forward to hearing from you and sharing our stories with you again.
[00:20:20] And until that time, thank you so much for listening to the Low and Slow Barbecue Show on the Mesh.TV network of podcasts.
[00:20:27] Visit us online at LowSlowBBQShow.com.
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[00:20:38] And if you're on YouTube, you can find us there too.
[00:20:41] There's videos of our interviews and some man-on-the-street stuff, some things I've captured inside restaurants.
[00:20:47] And you also get to see our big holiday barbecue taste-off that's going to be coming up in December.
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[00:20:56] Special thanks again to our producer, Andrew Moose, and the whole team at the Mesh.TV network of podcasts.
[00:21:02] And to our loyal audience, remember, for the best barbecue and the best barbecue podcast, make it low and slow.

