It's a nightmare learning to trust again after being in a narcissistic relationship. It's worse if you've had multiple narcissistic relationships. This week Jill talks about trust and learning to trust. And, how to get past this stuff. She gives six-core insights about the process of recovering from narcissistic abuse. And, this week's idea for feeling better takes us out of our own heads and into the realm of kindness. Which, sounds way more woo-woo than it actually is! Have a listen!
In each episode, Jill Maragos will dive into who these sneaky SOB’s really are, what they do, and why they do it. And, she will share some tips and tricks for becoming “narcissist proof” (spoiler alert – it’s loving yourself! And, it’s not as hard as it seems.).
Questions, comments, or send your own horror story to Jill, send an email to evilmompod@gmail.com
Jill Maragos grew up in Buffalo, NY where she earned Bachelor's Degrees in Broadcast Journalism and Mechanical Engineering. She developed her sense of humor while surviving her crazy family (an actual professional would probably call it a ‘coping mechanism’). Although she herself is not a professional therapist/counselor, she is very much a survivor of it. She is a nationally touring Stand-Up Comic working regularly with Greg Proops (Whose Line is it Anyway? – ABC) and Tom Papa (Co-Host of What a Joke with Papa and Fortune – SiriusXM). She lives in Memphis with her husband, Matt, and her two dogs, Oscar and Ernie.
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[00:00:02] What you want, when you want it, where you want it. This is the MESH.
[00:00:07] Hi everyone. Welcome to the My Mom is a Bitch podcast. I am your host Jill Marigos and we did not have a podcast last week
[00:00:21] and I am sorry I got a last minute gig in Columbus Ohio and then I came home for a dated laundry
[00:00:28] and then turned around and left for Tulsa, Oklahoma. But I'm home for a couple weeks anyway
[00:00:33] and I am excited to be back with you guys. I hope you're doing well.
[00:00:38] I have been thinking a little bit about some things, real specific. We're starting real specific you guys.
[00:00:49] This is something that I see a lot on groups, on Facebook or people in general talking about it.
[00:00:59] How will you ever learn to trust anyone ever again? That is a valid fucking question isn't it?
[00:01:07] How would you? How would you learn to trust anyone ever again? If you're anything like me, you just had a string of shit ass people
[00:01:15] coming in and out of your life and coming in is real easy and getting them out is a fucking nightmare.
[00:01:21] I have had a slew of Bobby Blueballs in any form, boyfriend, boyfriend, fucking stalkers
[00:01:32] and Tammy Bichchitz too, friends who just came in and was like oh don't they seem real fun
[00:01:37] until they're a fucking nightmare and you gotta get rid of these people. How do you learn to trust yourself again?
[00:01:42] How do you let friends in? How do you let a romantic partner in when you can't trust them?
[00:01:48] Here's the bigger issue and this just occurred to me today and I'm going to try to find articles
[00:01:56] so my shit sounds validated I guess but what it comes down to is you have to trust yourself
[00:02:06] and that's the question how will I ever learn to trust myself again? Because here's the thing
[00:02:12] having a conversation with a lovely comic out in Tulsa, it was out in Tulsa
[00:02:18] and we're talking about one of my nightmare people who he also happens to know
[00:02:23] and I was telling him like oh I want to hear and then he's sending me text about how I'm a prick in an asshole
[00:02:29] when he's black out drunk and this person just simply said oh I don't tolerate that
[00:02:35] if somebody's mean to me that's just the end of it.
[00:02:39] Like it's a given I was like yeah sure and what I realized in real life is how do I trust myself
[00:02:50] how do I not get elbow deep, knees deep into a situation that suddenly becomes a nightmare to get out of
[00:03:00] and that comes with trusting myself and I'm only starting to get to this point now because like I said
[00:03:06] I've had a slew of these people and it's this weird cycle of shit okay because my mom clearly a narcissist
[00:03:15] hence the My Mom is a bitch podcast and then I'd find boyfriends who are narcissists
[00:03:23] and then I'd find another boyfriend who is still kind of a narcissist you know all about himself
[00:03:29] but I tolerated quite a bit because I didn't have proof he was cheating on me
[00:03:32] we fought and broke up all the time but I kept going back
[00:03:36] finally found a great husband but meanwhile I have comedy partners who make my life a living hell
[00:03:42] and friends who make my life a living hell and my filter fucking sucked
[00:03:49] that's the problem my filter sucked but what's worse your filter is gonna be fucked up for a while
[00:03:56] if you're anything like me if you've gone through any shit like this your filter is gonna be like me
[00:04:01] you're going to keep finding these people because it's what you're used to
[00:04:06] we've talked about that in other episodes here's the problem
[00:04:11] our boundaries suck balls
[00:04:15] if your boundaries are healthy and you're like my friend over in Tulsa who's just like oh no I don't tolerate that
[00:04:23] you'll be fine how fucked up is that right and I think that's the bigger issue
[00:04:30] I've been skirting it I've been teasing the boundary stuff for a long time
[00:04:34] but the truth is for a person who's not been a victim of narcissistic abuse
[00:04:40] it's because they grew up going oh no I don't allow this in my life
[00:04:45] I really like you you seemed great at first but this isn't good for me and this isn't healthy
[00:04:49] and then that person no longer exists in their life and then they go skipping off into the sunset
[00:04:55] whistling and probably eating chocolate I'm guessing
[00:04:58] I've not lived that life yet but I'm getting there
[00:05:03] you know I I feel like the bigger issue if you're asking myself
[00:05:09] if you're asking me how do I do it I don't know
[00:05:12] if you if you're asking yourself how do I ever trust again
[00:05:16] what you need to be asking yourself for real is how do I learn to trust myself
[00:05:22] because my gauge is fucking off that's the problem
[00:05:26] my gauge sucks well you know what people are going to come in and out of your life all the time
[00:05:30] and what you need is the ability to go oh wait I see what's going on here early on
[00:05:36] you know somebody hurts your feelings and be able to say um no thanks this is I'm done with this
[00:05:43] and that's fucking hard it's really hard I don't know if I want to go into boundaries today
[00:05:49] because I don't even feel qualified to talk about it
[00:05:51] but the truth is learning to trust other people will come from learning to trust yourself
[00:05:58] which means not just okay I can spot this person with radar
[00:06:04] boop boop boop boop boop Tami b**** chicks
[00:06:06] boop boop boop boop boop boop boop boop Bobby blue balls right off the bat
[00:06:09] you're not gonna know everybody's gonna show you the best sides of themselves right off the bat
[00:06:13] you're never gonna know it doesn't matter though
[00:06:17] what matters is when that fucking alien from the movie Alien
[00:06:23] or Alien 2 or Alien vs. whatever movies that thing's been in,
[00:06:28] comes fucking coming out of that person's sternum
[00:06:32] at you going, wha-wha-wha, or whatever noise it may,
[00:06:35] I don't really watch scary movies that much, but you know what I mean?
[00:06:38] When that person shows their shit ass side of themselves,
[00:06:41] we have to have the ability to be like nah, no thanks.
[00:06:47] This is too much for me, I'm gonna pass.
[00:06:51] And to be okay with it.
[00:06:53] Huge problem for people like me is I was taught that makes you a bitch.
[00:06:57] They're gonna think I'm a bitch, they're gonna think I'm a terrible person.
[00:07:01] Or I'm gonna think I'm a terrible person.
[00:07:04] I have had therapy sessions where I'm like, I literally legitimately,
[00:07:09] oh my god this is how excited I am, I hit the mic still,
[00:07:12] I legitimately was confused because I got an email from someone saying
[00:07:19] can you meet me? Never met this person ever.
[00:07:22] They added me on Facebook sent a message before we were even friends
[00:07:25] saying they wanted to discuss the business of comedy
[00:07:29] and you know I heard that you're funny, they knew nothing about me,
[00:07:33] they've never watched any of my comedy, we could be completely different types of comics.
[00:07:37] They were willing to email me and ask me for my time to meet with them
[00:07:41] and I had no idea what to say.
[00:07:45] None. I didn't want to go, my gut said no, I don't know you.
[00:07:50] Like if we met at a club and you know you ask me questions
[00:07:54] and fucking of course I'll help you, you know I'll talk to you as a person.
[00:07:58] I've never met you, you heard from someone so that I'm funny
[00:08:01] and now you want me to meet you and yet in my gut
[00:08:05] even though I was like I don't want to, my body was also screaming
[00:08:10] if you don't you're a bitch, what if I run into her at some point?
[00:08:13] What if I have the time to meet with her?
[00:08:16] That was a legitimate thing, I said to the therapist
[00:08:18] but if I have the time and I'm not busy
[00:08:23] don't I have to go?
[00:08:25] I don't have other things going on
[00:08:28] and the concept of being like you don't have to do anything.
[00:08:34] It's your time and she said good people set boundaries
[00:08:39] because I said if I was a good person I would go
[00:08:42] and my therapist said good people set boundaries
[00:08:45] and that's still, I just wriggle in my skin when I hear that
[00:08:49] because to me it seems nasty or mean or selfish
[00:08:54] who do you think you are doing what you want with your own time?
[00:08:58] Like it's still uncomfortable for me
[00:09:00] and I think maybe that's why I'm like first of all
[00:09:02] I don't set boundaries real well, okay?
[00:09:05] I'm bad at it, I'm practicing, I'm trying
[00:09:07] but I also don't have a very clear way to tell it to you all.
[00:09:12] I think next time instead of just discussing
[00:09:15] all this bullshit that they do
[00:09:17] we are just gonna have a total,
[00:09:19] we're gonna just have a 30 minute chat session
[00:09:24] about boundaries and setting boundaries.
[00:09:26] I know no one's gonna listen
[00:09:28] because we don't wanna do it, it hurts, it sucks
[00:09:31] it's super uncomfortable, I feel like a big raging jerk
[00:09:35] for being like sorry, no, I don't wanna do that
[00:09:39] but you know what, at the same time, A, you can either,
[00:09:46] you have two choices, you can either take a short,
[00:09:51] acute amount of pain and be like no, I don't want to
[00:09:55] or ignore it, mm, that hurt, yeah, that's another place.
[00:09:58] Am I a dick if I don't respond to the email at least
[00:10:02] and make up an excuse?
[00:10:03] Maybe I should say I just had my foot amputated
[00:10:05] because I heard a real lie, maybe I should lie
[00:10:07] instead of being like no, I don't wanna do that
[00:10:10] or just ignoring the email message
[00:10:12] because this person doesn't even fucking know me
[00:10:15] or two, I know I got off on the track a little bit,
[00:10:19] but two, or the second thing is
[00:10:22] you can also choose the long drawn out pain.
[00:10:26] Say I go, you know what, Tammy Bitch just,
[00:10:29] yeah let's totally meet up, where do you wanna meet up?
[00:10:31] Oh, you live an hour away from me?
[00:10:34] Sure, yeah I guess I can come out there
[00:10:36] and try to find you in a restaurant
[00:10:39] even though we've never met
[00:10:40] and we're gonna have an uncomfortable meeting
[00:10:42] and then I'm gonna have to pay for a lunch with you
[00:10:45] at least for my part of the check
[00:10:47] and then I have to sit with you for an hour
[00:10:49] when you've done comedy for a year
[00:10:51] and probably are just looking to get connections
[00:10:56] because people seem to think that's what
[00:10:58] the entertainment industry is, just knowing people.
[00:11:01] It's not really that, do your job
[00:11:03] and people will fucking hire you, that's the thing.
[00:11:06] So yeah, those are your two options.
[00:11:09] Acute pain early on and being like no,
[00:11:12] which honestly as I do it a little bit more and more
[00:11:16] it gets easier, no thank you
[00:11:18] and if they're mad at you, what kind of a fucked up person
[00:11:21] are they if they get mad at you?
[00:11:23] How many emails or phone calls have you ever sent
[00:11:26] being like hi, can I ask for help?
[00:11:29] And if somebody's like I just, I can't or don't want to
[00:11:32] are you mad at them?
[00:11:33] Are you mad at them?
[00:11:34] So you're just like I know this is good.
[00:11:36] I have this in emails all the time.
[00:11:38] Hi, famous comic.
[00:11:41] I know you probably have an opener
[00:11:43] but we get along great if you could ever use anybody
[00:11:46] please let me know, I'm just looking for work
[00:11:48] everybody's bringing their own middle right now
[00:11:50] and if they say no do I hate them forever?
[00:11:54] No because they have somebody or they're busy
[00:11:57] or they can't respond.
[00:11:58] I don't hate them forever.
[00:12:00] I don't think they're a bitch or an asshole.
[00:12:02] So you got to flip it around.
[00:12:03] You got to put yourself in their place.
[00:12:07] Yeah, that's right.
[00:12:10] And be like wait if somebody gets mad at me
[00:12:14] is that a problem?
[00:12:16] I ask nicely if they say no I'm okay with it.
[00:12:19] If somebody who I don't know gets mad at me
[00:12:22] because they sent me a random email
[00:12:24] and I'm not willing to jump in the car for an hour
[00:12:26] and pay for lunch so that I can hopefully get them
[00:12:29] connected in the industry and they're mad at me for it
[00:12:32] go fuck yourself.
[00:12:33] Tammy bitch tits, right?
[00:12:36] We have to get around to that.
[00:12:38] Next week, I know this was,
[00:12:40] it was one big long rant.
[00:12:42] One big long rant.
[00:12:43] But next week we're going to talk about
[00:12:45] boundaries fucking finally.
[00:12:46] I hate it you hate it but let's do it.
[00:12:48] Let's talk about it together
[00:12:50] It's kind of necessary you guys.
[00:12:52] It's kind of necessary.
[00:12:54] You can't trust anyone else
[00:12:57] and your trust for your safety
[00:12:59] and your protection and your well-being
[00:13:01] and your happiness should not lie
[00:13:04] in the hands of other people.
[00:13:06] Your trust and happiness
[00:13:08] and joy and security should lie
[00:13:10] in your own hands.
[00:13:12] And if you're unsure that you can trust yourself
[00:13:15] you have to figure out ways
[00:13:17] to learn to trust yourself.
[00:13:19] And that comes from setting boundaries
[00:13:21] and it sucks a big, huge dick.
[00:13:25] There it is.
[00:13:27] Okay?
[00:13:28] Really think about that.
[00:13:29] If you've asked yourself
[00:13:30] how am I ever going to learn
[00:13:31] to be in a romantic relationship again
[00:13:33] tell me how that doesn't make sense
[00:13:35] because here's what we see in our heads.
[00:13:37] I know this is a big long rant.
[00:13:38] I'm sorry.
[00:13:39] This is what we see in our heads.
[00:13:40] I'm going to meet for me.
[00:13:42] Okay, I'll take me.
[00:13:43] I'm going to meet a guy
[00:13:45] and he's going to be real charismatic
[00:13:47] and six months in
[00:13:49] she's going to start to go wrong
[00:13:51] but by then I will already fall in love with him
[00:13:53] and then he'll be even a little bit worse
[00:13:56] and he's going to say
[00:13:57] oh what, now you're mad at me?
[00:13:59] And I'll be like no, I guess not
[00:14:01] because God forbid he thinks I'm mad at him.
[00:14:04] It all comes from putting all of your eggs
[00:14:06] in their fucking narcissistic basket.
[00:14:09] They're your eggs.
[00:14:11] They're your Legos
[00:14:12] to put back together
[00:14:14] and they're your eggs to protect.
[00:14:16] You get 24 hours a fucking day.
[00:14:19] So does the narcissist, so do I
[00:14:22] so does a fucking dame-judy dutch
[00:14:26] everybody on this fucking planet
[00:14:28] gets 24 fucking hours a day
[00:14:30] and those 24 hours are your 24 fucking hours
[00:14:34] if you choose to go to work
[00:14:35] if you choose to come home
[00:14:37] and staple pictures to your wall
[00:14:39] or you choose to come home
[00:14:41] and play drums
[00:14:42] or you choose to come home
[00:14:44] and fucking sit on the couch and eat candy
[00:14:46] that's your time
[00:14:48] it's your time to do with what you want
[00:14:51] that does not belong to anybody but you
[00:14:54] and you have to figure out how to protect that time
[00:14:56] and protect that person sitting in that chair eating chocolate
[00:14:59] because you're the only person who can do it
[00:15:01] so next week we're going to talk about boundaries
[00:15:06] holy shit
[00:15:08] I don't know if you feel better
[00:15:10] I feel a little bit better
[00:15:13] I got one email this week that said
[00:15:15] that they do like the journal readings
[00:15:17] and they relate to them
[00:15:19] so I'm not outing anybody, that's my thing
[00:15:21] unless they say you can use my name
[00:15:23] but I did get approval about it
[00:15:25] so with that
[00:15:28] I'm going to just extrapolate to the other eight people
[00:15:30] who listen
[00:15:32] and assume they like it
[00:15:33] I haven't gotten a lot of complaints
[00:15:34] or people being like yeah it just doesn't do anything for me
[00:15:36] so yeah let's do a dramatic journal reading
[00:15:39] fuck it
[00:15:41] okay this one's really
[00:15:43] this is very ironic
[00:15:46] because this is my journal entry
[00:15:48] from let's see
[00:15:50] April 9th, 2018
[00:15:54] and this is exactly the story
[00:15:57] I was just telling you guys
[00:15:59] it's the woman who messaged me
[00:16:01] and didn't know and this is what I journaled about
[00:16:03] it's so funny and it's so weird
[00:16:05] anyway here we go
[00:16:07] but this week's dramatic
[00:16:10] journal reading
[00:16:14] my rules will be how
[00:16:17] I would give advice to any
[00:16:19] and everyone else
[00:16:21] if someone messaged Ron
[00:16:24] out of the blue
[00:16:25] and asked him for coffee
[00:16:28] to talk about quote unquote
[00:16:30] the biz
[00:16:32] parentheses barf
[00:16:34] closed parentheses
[00:16:36] do I think he's bad
[00:16:38] if he ignores it
[00:16:40] no
[00:16:42] the
[00:16:44] this fucking sucks
[00:16:46] I do not need to interact with anyone
[00:16:49] ever
[00:16:51] if I don't want to
[00:16:53] we aren't all meant to have
[00:16:55] instant access to everyone else
[00:16:57] it's not normal
[00:16:59] I hope
[00:17:00] Facebook
[00:17:01] shuts down completely
[00:17:03] I will have to set some real boundaries
[00:17:06] I will start to delete people
[00:17:09] I don't know
[00:17:13] that's this week's dramatic
[00:17:15] journal reading
[00:17:16] Ron by the way is a nice fellow
[00:17:18] who books the San Francisco punchline
[00:17:20] shows on Sunday so
[00:17:22] that is a little
[00:17:24] full circle journal reading
[00:17:26] and now
[00:17:28] you guys
[00:17:29] it is time for
[00:17:31] the tip of the week
[00:17:33] I guess
[00:17:34] something that makes us learn to trust ourselves
[00:17:37] something that
[00:17:39] brings us some joy
[00:17:40] or at least some fucking relief
[00:17:41] and before I get into all this
[00:17:43] I just want to I found an actual article
[00:17:45] about
[00:17:47] the process of
[00:17:49] narcissistic abuse recovery
[00:17:52] is this from psychology today
[00:17:54] legit
[00:17:55] Julie L. Hall
[00:17:57] the narcissist in your life
[00:18:01] is the
[00:18:02] why she put that in there
[00:18:04] she's not the narcissist in your life
[00:18:06] this is probably what you call it
[00:18:07] but narcissism
[00:18:08] six core insights
[00:18:09] from a narcissistic abuse recovery coach
[00:18:12] what you need to know to heal
[00:18:14] from narcissistic abuse and its aftermath
[00:18:16] and I thought that was interesting
[00:18:18] because I see
[00:18:20] people not being real patient with themselves
[00:18:22] I did it
[00:18:23] and I get it
[00:18:24] so
[00:18:25] but I just want to throw these out there
[00:18:27] one a larger pattern is at work
[00:18:29] you have the history of narcissistic relationships
[00:18:32] either with romantic partners or friends
[00:18:34] or both
[00:18:35] like me
[00:18:36] it may be that you have come
[00:18:38] from a dysfunctional family system
[00:18:40] what
[00:18:41] dominated by narcissistic parents
[00:18:43] or parents with other forms of mental illnesses
[00:18:46] or addiction
[00:18:47] we all encounter
[00:18:48] narcissists in our lives
[00:18:49] but those of us who stick around for abuse
[00:18:52] have typically been conditioned
[00:18:54] to such relationships in childhood
[00:18:57] two
[00:18:58] denial is your frenemy
[00:19:00] denial is the child's first and only defense
[00:19:02] so when we are helpless
[00:19:04] and dependent
[00:19:05] it's safer to deny
[00:19:07] deficiencies in our parents
[00:19:09] or caregivers
[00:19:10] than to admit them to ourselves
[00:19:12] it's also safer to blame ourselves
[00:19:14] for a problem
[00:19:16] than to question the status of the people
[00:19:18] we depend on for our survival
[00:19:20] there's more to this article
[00:19:22] but I'm hitting the highlights
[00:19:23] number three
[00:19:25] here's the bottom line about narcissism
[00:19:27] and I'm gonna just
[00:19:30] succinctly wrap this up
[00:19:32] they fucking lack empathy
[00:19:33] that's it
[00:19:34] we talk about it all the time
[00:19:36] you have empathy
[00:19:38] and you can't necessarily comprehend
[00:19:40] that this asshole doesn't have empathy
[00:19:43] you think they can learn it
[00:19:44] or you think it's very deep under
[00:19:46] hurt or garbage
[00:19:48] they don't
[00:19:49] they're without the imps
[00:19:51] number four
[00:19:53] there's no way around grief
[00:19:55] there's no fucking timeline either
[00:19:56] you can't get around it
[00:19:57] go through it
[00:19:59] live your grief
[00:20:00] I remember fucking crying
[00:20:01] death cries in the bathroom
[00:20:03] at our old rental place in Van Nys
[00:20:05] just fucking lost my mind
[00:20:07] and it's gonna come and go as well
[00:20:09] people will often go
[00:20:10] well I was fine yesterday
[00:20:11] why am I not fine today
[00:20:13] cause your brain can't take it all at once
[00:20:15] your brain's gonna like
[00:20:16] slowly let it leak through
[00:20:18] and process
[00:20:19] just don't
[00:20:20] just trust what you're going through
[00:20:21] and fucking be sad
[00:20:23] we don't all need to be happy all the time
[00:20:25] if you're suicidal
[00:20:27] or you can't get out of bed
[00:20:28] go for some help
[00:20:29] get an antidepressant
[00:20:30] get some help
[00:20:31] I'm on antidepressant
[00:20:33] cause I needed it
[00:20:35] and I'm not ashamed of saying it
[00:20:37] I throw fewer phones across the house now
[00:20:40] number five
[00:20:42] you have been through a complex trauma
[00:20:44] you fucking have PTSD
[00:20:46] I know you think well
[00:20:47] it's not like I was addicted to heroin
[00:20:49] it's not like I've been to Vietnam
[00:20:51] or Iraq
[00:20:53] well you fucking
[00:20:54] it's fucking
[00:20:55] worse cause it's covert
[00:20:57] and it fucks with your brain
[00:20:59] and you have to just be kind to yourself
[00:21:01] get a counselor
[00:21:02] there ain't nothing wrong with that
[00:21:04] it's a good thing
[00:21:06] cause sometimes you just need that outside perspective
[00:21:08] I think you really do
[00:21:10] number six
[00:21:11] you can heal
[00:21:12] alright
[00:21:13] you can heal
[00:21:14] she says along with our capacity for suffering
[00:21:16] is a commensurate capacity
[00:21:18] to heal
[00:21:19] healing happens when we
[00:21:21] recognize the larger patterns at work in our lives
[00:21:24] overcome denial
[00:21:25] understand the reality of narcissism
[00:21:27] and move through our grief
[00:21:29] and trauma on the road toward a healthier
[00:21:31] and happier state of being
[00:21:33] I'm gonna add on to this and go you know what
[00:21:35] okay it's sometimes alright just to fucking be alone
[00:21:38] why do we all have to be in a relationship all the time
[00:21:40] we don't
[00:21:41] we don't always have to be in a relationship
[00:21:43] enjoy your own company
[00:21:45] watch a movie
[00:21:46] fucking go for a walk
[00:21:48] get a dog
[00:21:49] all that stuff
[00:21:50] alright
[00:21:51] I think that being said
[00:21:53] my tip for the week
[00:21:55] uh
[00:21:57] it might sound counterintuitive
[00:21:59] to all this stuff I've been talking about
[00:22:01] like your time is your own
[00:22:03] and you know fuck everybody else
[00:22:05] which it sounds like
[00:22:06] but my tip for the week
[00:22:08] is
[00:22:09] do something nice for someone
[00:22:11] smile at somebody at a grocery store
[00:22:15] it doesn't need to cost any money
[00:22:18] what doing something nice for somebody else does
[00:22:21] is it takes you out of your own head
[00:22:24] it gets you
[00:22:25] it stops you from thinking about you
[00:22:27] it doesn't have to cost you money
[00:22:29] I do this stupid thing where
[00:22:31] during the pandemic
[00:22:33] I did a lot of shows over zoom
[00:22:35] as a stand up and they're torturous and horrible
[00:22:38] it was all we had people tuned in
[00:22:40] you'd see them just sitting on their couch
[00:22:42] with their foot at the screen and it's like
[00:22:44] okay we're in this together
[00:22:46] but they were
[00:22:47] I tried my best to make people laugh
[00:22:49] but it's a weird form of doing stand up comedy
[00:22:51] and I just didn't enjoy these shows
[00:22:53] but I would do them
[00:22:55] I have headliners that I work with
[00:22:56] and they ask me to do it
[00:22:57] I would help them
[00:22:58] and
[00:22:59] uh there are clubs that I really loved
[00:23:01] I would do these shows
[00:23:02] but any money that I got
[00:23:04] I put into a Venmo account
[00:23:06] and from there
[00:23:07] I just decided that money
[00:23:09] is just to do nice things for other people
[00:23:11] I have a friend who
[00:23:13] had cancer
[00:23:15] as far as we know
[00:23:16] fingers crossed, knock on wood, sending a doodoo
[00:23:18] he is through it
[00:23:20] through stage 4 cancer
[00:23:21] just send him 100 bucks
[00:23:22] do what the fuck you want with it
[00:23:23] enjoy it
[00:23:24] buy something fun
[00:23:25] right
[00:23:26] just it feels great
[00:23:28] it fills me with like little tingly feelings
[00:23:30] just to be like
[00:23:31] this person's happy
[00:23:33] you know I have a friend
[00:23:34] whose little girl bulls
[00:23:36] and she's collecting money for bowling
[00:23:38] fucking yeah take $50
[00:23:39] why not
[00:23:40] because it came from like
[00:23:41] such misery this money
[00:23:43] I just wanted to go out
[00:23:44] and do nice things for people
[00:23:45] but again
[00:23:46] it does not need to cost you any money
[00:23:48] I will once in a while
[00:23:50] just somebody I know
[00:23:52] who I admire
[00:23:54] or I see that they've done something great
[00:23:56] I'll just send a message going
[00:23:57] you know I just want to say good on you
[00:23:59] this is super fucking cool what you're doing
[00:24:01] it's great
[00:24:02] I think you're wonderful
[00:24:03] I think you're funny
[00:24:04] you inspire me
[00:24:05] fucking rock on with your bad self
[00:24:08] and they get it
[00:24:09] and they will be like
[00:24:11] this was so nice thank you
[00:24:12] but you know what
[00:24:13] it came from a place of just being like
[00:24:15] I wanted to share how great you are
[00:24:17] that's all
[00:24:18] like I said hold the door for somebody
[00:24:20] smile at someone
[00:24:21] if somebody drops something fucking pick it up
[00:24:24] I don't know about you
[00:24:25] but I always feel a little bit better
[00:24:27] I get a little bit of a
[00:24:29] I don't know
[00:24:30] my heart gets a little bigger
[00:24:32] when I do that
[00:24:33] and again it also takes you out of your own shit
[00:24:37] you know it's not about you
[00:24:39] it's not about you being a narcissist
[00:24:41] and look how good I think I am
[00:24:43] for everybody else
[00:24:44] it's just something to do
[00:24:46] if you're interested in stuff like this
[00:24:49] I think it's technically
[00:24:51] technically called random acts of kindness
[00:24:54] there's a website
[00:24:55] there's a group of people
[00:24:57] who do these things regularly
[00:24:59] and you can just be a person
[00:25:01] who does random acts of kindness
[00:25:03] you can pay for the next person's toll
[00:25:05] we've all heard that story
[00:25:07] you can buy someone a coffee
[00:25:10] you know hey can I get your coffee
[00:25:12] oh you're a nurse
[00:25:13] life sucks right now
[00:25:15] here's fucking a ten dollar gift card for Starbucks
[00:25:18] it doesn't have to be anything
[00:25:20] somebody dropped a check
[00:25:22] on the street
[00:25:23] two weeks ago
[00:25:24] right and like
[00:25:26] it was sitting there
[00:25:27] I think what happened with some fucker
[00:25:29] took it out of their mailbox
[00:25:30] opened it up
[00:25:31] and just decided forty four dollars
[00:25:33] wasn't worth their time
[00:25:35] or the potential of going to jail
[00:25:37] for fraud
[00:25:38] or whatever
[00:25:39] they took it out of this person's mailbox
[00:25:41] opened it
[00:25:42] threw it on the fucking street
[00:25:43] and out of the corner of my eye
[00:25:44] I saw like part of a check
[00:25:46] and we're walking the dogs
[00:25:47] and I picked it up
[00:25:48] and I was like
[00:25:49] this is a check for forty four dollars
[00:25:51] and I could have just as easily just thrown it back
[00:25:53] in fact I did
[00:25:54] I put it back on the street
[00:25:55] and I'm like I'm not gonna bother with this
[00:25:57] I was like this isn't right
[00:25:58] I turned around and I got it
[00:26:00] I put it back in the envelope
[00:26:01] I left them a little sticky note
[00:26:02] I didn't give them my name
[00:26:03] they don't need any praise for this
[00:26:05] it's the decent fucking thing to do
[00:26:07] that's all it is
[00:26:08] you do the decent thing
[00:26:09] you can sleep better at night
[00:26:11] or you do something nice for someone
[00:26:13] and then they are like
[00:26:14] wow that was nice
[00:26:15] I'm gonna do something nice for someone
[00:26:17] it spreads around
[00:26:18] it spreads joy
[00:26:19] that's a good thing
[00:26:20] I don't know why I keep going on about it
[00:26:22] you know what I mean
[00:26:23] you know what it's like
[00:26:24] to do something nice
[00:26:25] fucking bake cookies for some
[00:26:26] bake cookies and take them into work
[00:26:28] and people are like
[00:26:29] aw man this is awesome
[00:26:30] I haven't cooked these in a while
[00:26:31] they probably hit cookies
[00:26:32] not as good as your cookies
[00:26:33] see you make good cookies
[00:26:36] or whatever
[00:26:37] I think it's just
[00:26:38] the reason
[00:26:39] ah I'm such a
[00:26:41] I'm like a rant weird tear today
[00:26:43] but when I first started dating my husband
[00:26:46] there was a woman
[00:26:47] at the Raleigh Durham International Airport
[00:26:51] we were flying somewhere
[00:26:52] and it was a woman
[00:26:54] collecting money for her church
[00:26:55] and my husband just pulled out 20 bucks
[00:26:58] and gave it to her
[00:26:59] and I was like oh my god
[00:27:00] you just gave her 20 dollars
[00:27:02] and at first I was just like
[00:27:03] that was stupid
[00:27:04] like in my head it was stupid
[00:27:06] and then
[00:27:07] you know we've been married 19 years
[00:27:09] and this was before we were even married
[00:27:11] and that's
[00:27:12] like I look back at that
[00:27:13] and I'm like
[00:27:14] that's why I'm married to that guy
[00:27:15] cause he's a fucking good guy
[00:27:17] cause he did that
[00:27:18] even at the time
[00:27:19] even though
[00:27:20] at the time
[00:27:21] I was like
[00:27:22] that was stupid
[00:27:23] you just gave that woman
[00:27:24] she could be panhandling
[00:27:25] in the name of churches
[00:27:26] you don't know
[00:27:27] but he fucking felt good about it
[00:27:29] I kind of feel bad looking back
[00:27:31] that I wasn't more supportive of it
[00:27:33] cause it was a nice thing to do
[00:27:34] he's a nice person
[00:27:36] it's what makes a marriage
[00:27:37] and uh
[00:27:38] I guess that's
[00:27:40] you guys I ran it a lot today
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