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[00:11.360 --> 00:18.760] Footcandle Films, Film News and Reviews from two guys who really like movies.
[00:18.760 --> 00:24.600] This episode is brought to you by the Footcandle Film Society. For a schedule of upcoming screenings
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[00:33.960 --> 00:39.840] Hello and welcome to Footcandle Films here on the mesh.tv podcast network. My name is
[00:39.840 --> 00:46.760] Alan Jackson, with me at the podcast recording studio table is Chris Fry. Chris, you are
[00:46.760 --> 00:52.500] the co-founder and co-director of the Footcandle Film Society and also the co-director
[00:52.500 --> 00:58.100] of the Footcandle Film Festival, which I'm very happy to say. I'm sharing that co-tidal
[00:58.100 --> 01:06.100] with you. So how are you doing? I am doing well. Interested to hear your thoughts on today's
[01:06.100 --> 01:12.780] movie? Okay. Yeah, because I'd seen it and I remember, I'd seen it and then it is not
[01:12.780 --> 01:16.620] an AFIRN Academy Award and so that kind of got a little bit more attention to things.
[01:16.620 --> 01:20.700] And then we decided to review it and I'm interested to hear your thoughts on it. Well, we will
[01:20.700 --> 01:25.860] get into that in just a moment. The film Chris is teasing you about is the film Society of
[01:25.860 --> 01:33.740] the Snow, which is a telling of the story of the rugby team that crashed in the Andes back
[01:33.740 --> 01:38.900] in the 1970s for people who say, say, well, that sounds familiar. Yes, there was a movie
[01:38.900 --> 01:45.620] made called Alive. That was made of that story back, I think, in the late 90s, I believe.
[01:45.620 --> 01:49.900] Remember correctly? Yes. Well, yeah. But this is a new version of new telling of that
[01:49.900 --> 01:55.740] story by writer and director J.A. Bayona. So we'll be discussing that film and giving
[01:55.740 --> 02:01.380] a full review of that film in just a moment. That is a Netflix, it's Netflix original, right?
[02:01.380 --> 02:05.980] I mean, I was like, we're leasing on Netflix only. Yes. Okay. So it's available on Netflix
[02:05.980 --> 02:10.500] now we'll be reviewing in just a moment. Plus, and I'm super excited for this, Chris. I
[02:10.500 --> 02:16.700] know we we capped off 2023 a couple over the last couple weeks and gave our recap to what
[02:16.700 --> 02:19.700] we thought about the year. But now we're turning all our attention to the year that
[02:19.700 --> 02:24.540] we just started, gosh, it's already February. So we're already deep in the year. But we're
[02:24.540 --> 02:31.100] still going to do this. We're going to hear Chris Fry's most anticipated films of 2024.
[02:31.100 --> 02:35.740] Your top 10, which since we're already a month into the end of the year, you've actually
[02:35.740 --> 02:40.300] already seen one of your own top 10. Right. Yeah, because it came out in January. So you'll
[02:40.300 --> 02:44.940] get a quick little recap on how that experience was. But I can't wait to hear the other nine
[02:45.020 --> 02:50.460] and see if any of the list, any of your lists are making my list or if I've got some arguments
[02:50.460 --> 02:55.180] to make with you on your list, we'll see when we get to it. That'll be fun. But let's get
[02:55.180 --> 03:01.860] right into our movie review. Again, it is the story of the rugby team, crashing under a
[03:01.860 --> 03:08.100] glacier in the Andes and their story of survival. This is the film Society of the Snow.
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[06:14.940 --> 06:22.660] rewarding and an exciting yet harrowing watch. So Chris, I'm gonna turn it over to
[06:22.660 --> 06:29.020] you and tell me what you think. So I had seen the 1993 version. I remember going to
[06:29.020 --> 06:33.220] see it in the theater. I was in college. A bunch of friends went to go see it and
[06:33.220 --> 06:36.260] we kind of knew, you know, you see the trailer and you're like, oh it's a
[06:36.260 --> 06:39.780] plain crash based on a true story and had Ethan Hawks. I was like, yeah, you know,
[06:39.780 --> 06:48.660] we're in. I remember liking it and now having seen this film, it kind of, it's
[06:48.660 --> 06:54.100] weird because I kind of feel guilty for liking it. For liking, for liking a lot.
[06:54.100 --> 06:58.900] Okay, the older English version. The older English version because you see this
[06:58.900 --> 07:02.880] and granted, like at the time, you know, we're in a very different world now in
[07:02.880 --> 07:09.100] 2024 than we were in 1993. You know, we still take other people's stories and make
[07:09.100 --> 07:13.060] them all English and use American action. We still do that. So I'm not
[07:13.060 --> 07:18.860] saying we don't do that anymore. But like, I can see how now J. J. Villana, he's a
[07:18.860 --> 07:22.980] known director and he's like, and I can see totally like when I first heard about
[07:22.980 --> 07:26.180] this story, I was like, oh yeah, this this is the alive thing. I wonder why they're
[07:26.180 --> 07:29.740] remaking it. But then you start to watch and you're like, well, duh, I know why
[07:29.740 --> 07:34.060] they're they're making this because it's kind of their story to begin with. Yeah,
[07:34.060 --> 07:39.340] they got appropriated and that makes me leery to even want to go back and see
[07:39.340 --> 07:45.340] the 93 version for that reason. You know, you know, I think it was it was
[07:45.340 --> 07:49.060] good. I liked it. You know, I liked Ethan Hawks performance. I thought it was, you
[07:49.060 --> 07:51.980] know, you can't believe some of the things that happened. But still, just because
[07:51.980 --> 07:57.580] it's it felt now looking back, it feels so removed from it that I don't think you
[07:57.580 --> 08:02.740] need to. Okay, there's no reason for you to. Got it. Because I don't think there's
[08:02.780 --> 08:05.940] nothing about that version that I don't think this version did just as well or
[08:05.940 --> 08:10.860] obviously improved on it. Okay. And just the fact, you know, I mentioned when I went
[08:10.860 --> 08:15.780] to go see that it was like, oh yeah, Ethan Hawks on this. We will get to some
[08:15.780 --> 08:19.940] of the performances and call some names out stuff. But yeah, of course, I'm not
[08:19.940 --> 08:24.540] familiar with anyone in this. There were no familiar faces. For American audiences,
[08:24.540 --> 08:29.500] this should be a fairly, you know, a lot of unknown actors performing these
[08:29.540 --> 08:35.020] roles, which I think helps. I think is good. And I think I think it is good. And it is
[08:35.020 --> 08:38.780] like you kind of said, it was kind of tough because then you can't, you know,
[08:38.780 --> 08:41.700] there are so many because you know, it's a plain full of people. I mean, there's
[08:41.700 --> 08:46.060] about 30 to 40 people on this plane when it starts. And it's a plain full of
[08:46.060 --> 08:49.020] people and you're trying, you know, they fall and you know, you're trying to keep
[08:49.020 --> 08:53.020] track. Okay, who's saying what? What's who's the guy that kind of starts out as
[08:53.020 --> 08:57.340] maybe your narrator or leader? It's it's a little confusing. But then if you
[08:57.340 --> 09:01.420] think about it in the terms of the story, it probably should be that way,
[09:01.420 --> 09:04.780] because it's like it's very chaotic. This has happened. These people are trying to
[09:04.780 --> 09:09.300] figure out how to survive. It's not a very clean narrative, so to say. So the
[09:09.300 --> 09:14.860] fact that it's a huge ensemble piece from the very beginning is kind of a good
[09:14.860 --> 09:23.260] thing. And you alluded to, yeah, it's, it is, I don't remember the first one
[09:23.260 --> 09:26.860] being, yeah, it was still harrowing. And it was very, you know, upsetting and
[09:26.860 --> 09:31.940] stuff. But I don't remember it being this intense. I think I remember the
[09:31.940 --> 09:37.060] plane crash being intense, but then the things that happen after that, I don't
[09:37.060 --> 09:42.340] feel like we're as intense and grueling. Like the fact there's some times in this
[09:42.340 --> 09:46.980] where they get kind of snowed in the plane. And so yet, and things like, and just
[09:46.980 --> 09:50.500] some other things that basically the thing that I remember from the other
[09:50.540 --> 09:57.380] live, and I think people would say, they remember having to eat some of the
[09:57.380 --> 10:01.140] survivors after they've passed away and using that as a food source to be able
[10:01.140 --> 10:04.660] to survive. Otherwise, there's no way they would have been able to survive. Yes,
[10:04.860 --> 10:08.940] that's the thing that kind of was the people would talk about back then, like,
[10:08.940 --> 10:11.660] oh, have you seen that maybe where the plane crashed and they had to eat some
[10:11.660 --> 10:14.900] of the survive? Unfortunately, that became the whole thing. Yeah, that really
[10:14.900 --> 10:20.460] grisly, grisly, and it's, it's handled as delicately as they could in 93
[10:20.460 --> 10:25.260] but something about the way it's done this way. And actually, at the conclusion
[10:25.260 --> 10:30.260] of the film, some of the things that are done in that, it's like, I don't know,
[10:30.260 --> 10:34.780] it's just not to say the 93 didn't handle it well with this kind of, and didn't
[10:34.780 --> 10:39.660] sensation, not that they sensationalize it 93, but well, I don't know, it just it
[10:39.660 --> 10:44.300] handled it as well as I think you possibly. Yeah, I'm not in again, I can't compare
[10:44.300 --> 10:49.460] it to the 93. I'm not going to try. I just say I, I obviously knew that element of
[10:49.460 --> 10:53.460] the story going into just being aware of the story from a broad sense before
[10:53.460 --> 10:58.660] watching this film. I thought the way they handled that subject matter, that
[10:59.540 --> 11:05.540] that decision, that choice that had to be made, that even the way once a
[11:05.540 --> 11:11.020] decision was made, how they went about going through it was so well done and
[11:11.020 --> 11:15.860] defined for the characters in this film. I just was really amazed. I'm like, this
[11:16.340 --> 11:21.540] is like, as this is how I wanted to see if I ever had to experience this type of
[11:21.540 --> 11:26.500] thing, this is how I'd want to see it on screen and it is so well. The details that
[11:26.500 --> 11:30.660] they went into about how like, how they came upon that. And then once they made that
[11:30.660 --> 11:34.100] decision, how they handled it, I think some of those details, maybe they had
[11:34.100 --> 11:39.860] them in the 93, I don't remember. But the way they were presented here, I felt like
[11:39.940 --> 11:46.100] was so much more, I got it. That's the thing is that I just, I understood every
[11:46.100 --> 11:51.940] character's belief system, I understood their, their willingness or unwillingness
[11:51.940 --> 11:55.020] and why and what they were going through and trying to deal with it. I just bought
[11:55.020 --> 12:00.140] all of it. I just totally felt like this film does such a wonderful job of putting
[12:00.140 --> 12:04.700] you in the mindset of where these guys are in their decision process and not just
[12:04.700 --> 12:09.260] on the food source, but on everything. I mean, there's choices being made about
[12:09.260 --> 12:13.980] do we venture out in this area to try to, to try to find something and if we do
[12:13.980 --> 12:16.700] what's going to happen, if we do, and it's like, there's consequences with
[12:16.700 --> 12:20.500] everything and there's decisions being made. And the film just does a wonderful
[12:20.500 --> 12:26.860] job of helping you see the choices they're having to deal with and understanding
[12:26.860 --> 12:30.060] the choices they're having to deal with and how it's affecting them, the
[12:30.060 --> 12:35.300] decisions they're making. And I will, I will sing to the praise, sing, sing on
[12:35.300 --> 12:39.540] high about the praise of this film and that it does something with the narrative.
[12:39.540 --> 12:42.540] And I know you've seen, it's been a while since you saw it, so maybe I don't know
[12:42.540 --> 12:47.180] how much you recall, but with the narrative of the film and the use of a
[12:47.180 --> 12:53.060] narrator, and I was going to kind of leave it at that, there are some choices made on
[12:53.060 --> 12:58.300] who we're following as a narrator and for how long that I thought were really
[12:58.300 --> 13:05.180] well done. And it is a pivot point where the narrative shifts in its object
[13:05.180 --> 13:10.260] activity of the story, and it actually made it for me more impactful. It actually made
[13:10.260 --> 13:14.940] that last section of the film more impactful because of the change in
[13:14.940 --> 13:19.500] narration or the change in the style of narration. And it just, it just worked.
[13:19.500 --> 13:26.020] And I think, yes, yeah, I envy you. I envy you for not having seen the original,
[13:26.020 --> 13:29.620] because it actually caused a little bit of confusion for me because I kind of
[13:29.620 --> 13:35.700] knew, I mean, we know that we know they're survivors. That's something, you know, you
[13:35.700 --> 13:39.620] know, you do know that. Right. Right. So and that caused a little bit of
[13:39.620 --> 13:44.380] confusion for me because I was thinking in my head already knew how certain things
[13:44.380 --> 13:47.420] were going to play out. And they did play out that way, but just, yeah, it was a
[13:47.420 --> 13:50.540] little confusing. It's helpful to know. That's my fault. Not the film's fault.
[13:50.540 --> 13:54.620] All I knew going into is I knew there were some survivors. Sure. I did not know how
[13:54.620 --> 14:00.340] many. Right. I didn't know it was two. Okay. 20. I had no idea. So that helps with
[14:00.340 --> 14:06.300] the story a little bit. And I didn't know the circumstances in which they survived.
[14:06.340 --> 14:12.300] Right. And that's, yeah. And I think, I will say, there, I can't remember the
[14:12.300 --> 14:19.420] gentleman's name, you can find it online. But one of the survivors did act as a
[14:19.580 --> 14:25.260] a reference for the first film for the 93 alive. And he acted as a reference again on
[14:25.260 --> 14:29.980] this film. So it's like he they did, you know, talk to the survivors or the group
[14:29.980 --> 14:34.580] like both times. So there were, you know, they did have help both times. But I think
[14:34.580 --> 14:39.980] just, I guess maybe the care that this film took, it's an extra half hour long. The other
[14:39.980 --> 14:47.140] live is two hours. This is two and a half hours. And man, like, I felt that I think, I
[14:47.180 --> 14:51.220] guess just the way the first film to me, I'm on my recollection, seemed a lot more
[14:51.220 --> 14:55.900] like polished, not polished, like, but just kind of given that Hollywood sheen
[14:55.900 --> 15:01.940] of taking off all the details and the edges that you don't really have to have. And
[15:01.940 --> 15:06.100] just getting you straight to the plot points and the beats. And it still makes
[15:06.100 --> 15:11.540] you appreciate what these people went through. But maybe does it, it's not perceived as
[15:11.540 --> 15:16.900] being as harrowing or as grueling, not that you know, it's difficult to, difficult to
[15:16.900 --> 15:22.020] put into words. This film had, it's really two scenes that I felt like we're just some
[15:22.020 --> 15:26.740] of the most intense, scariest things I've seen in a long time. One is the plane crash
[15:26.740 --> 15:32.660] itself. I mean, that is, it is, every bit as traumatic as it honestly needs to be to put
[15:32.660 --> 15:37.540] you in the mindset of where these people are. Because what just as harrowing is the crash
[15:37.620 --> 15:42.420] itself, it's the aftermath of the crash. It's an immediacy afterwards that actually was
[15:42.420 --> 15:47.900] probably even scarier to see. Then as you mentioned, there's, there's seen involving
[15:47.900 --> 15:52.020] avalanche and not going to go into much more detail on that. But just, yes, that was another
[15:52.020 --> 15:56.980] thing that the way they staged it and it kind of comes out of nowhere and it hits you as
[15:56.980 --> 16:04.180] the viewer, just like it does the members of the crew there. Boy, it was, it's a tough watch.
[16:04.180 --> 16:07.780] I mean, look, I had to watch this thing by myself. My wife was interested in coming to
[16:07.780 --> 16:12.020] see it. I said, after I'd already gotten started, I'm like, nope, I don't think this is going
[16:12.020 --> 16:16.900] to work for you. It's a tough watch. It's a very, very tough watch. Plus, she has a plane
[16:16.900 --> 16:20.500] flight coming up in a little bit. And I'm like, you know what, you don't need to see this right now.
[16:20.500 --> 16:27.620] Sure. I tell you what to, from a, from a visual standpoint, I mean, obviously,
[16:28.580 --> 16:36.340] 95% of the film takes place in the mountains and very stark, but yet beautiful landscape.
[16:36.340 --> 16:40.980] And that's what I thought they balanced so well too, is that I found myself looking at the scenery
[16:40.980 --> 16:48.500] and just thinking how beautiful it is, but yet they also, they also just makes the landscape
[16:50.100 --> 16:55.540] a villain, you know, at times. There are points where you're wanting just as a viewer, just like
[16:56.420 --> 17:00.740] they're wanting to see what's beyond a ridge or what's over here. And when you see it,
[17:01.540 --> 17:06.820] you have your same sometimes stomach drop or heart drop, just like they do, you know, I'm sure,
[17:07.300 --> 17:14.260] at times, just to understand how perilous the situation is. So it's a, I just thought this was a
[17:14.820 --> 17:21.460] masterful directed film. Performance wise, I don't really, there's not really a call out
[17:21.460 --> 17:25.300] performance. I want to say, I mean, I think this is a true ensemble where everybody,
[17:26.420 --> 17:31.700] everybody's performing a really, really top notch game. We do follow one character, maybe a little
[17:31.700 --> 17:37.620] bit more than others. We get a little more backstory for him and a little bit, and he is kind of our
[17:37.620 --> 17:43.300] narrator for the film. And that is the character, you know, the real person's name is Numa,
[17:43.300 --> 17:50.340] Numa Takati, and he's played by Enzo Veronorik, for Granosik. I'm going to go with that.
[17:50.900 --> 17:55.620] And again, I'm not giving it as a call out to say he's better than everybody else. I think
[17:55.620 --> 18:02.100] everybody here is very, very good. Sure. And just a very, they knew what they were signing up for
[18:02.100 --> 18:08.900] as an actor, and they, they delivered. And I thought the ensemble was great. So, but Numa as kind of
[18:08.900 --> 18:15.860] our, our protagonist, our person to follow, I think, carried the film extremely well and brought
[18:15.940 --> 18:22.980] us on board the way you needed to. So, yeah, I'll say the, the events that take place towards the
[18:22.980 --> 18:27.380] end of the film, where you kind of find out, you know, how things wrapped up, I think that was one
[18:27.380 --> 18:34.660] area to that, at least in my recollection, that part kind of grounded it a little more, as opposed
[18:34.660 --> 18:40.820] to just, okay, we have survivors, yay, the movies over, it kind of showed the survivors trying to
[18:40.820 --> 18:44.740] integrate back into society, and we'll just kind of leave it. But the, the way those, and maybe
[18:44.820 --> 18:49.300] that's maybe that's the last 20 minutes that wasn't in the other film, that this is a half hour
[18:49.300 --> 18:55.700] longer, whatever, like that's what really kind of helped to ground this film, make it seem, you know,
[18:55.700 --> 19:01.300] really important. I appreciated it. I thought it was really good. And I'll also, I don't believe that
[19:01.300 --> 19:09.780] this film ended with the traditional depiction of a real event motif of having the lines coming
[19:09.860 --> 19:14.260] up explaining like what all the characters are doing now, or it didn't have any of that, which
[19:14.260 --> 19:18.740] I also appreciated too. I think the coda of the film that last 15 minutes or so you're talking
[19:18.740 --> 19:24.100] about did what I needed to do, it gave me what I needed for these characters. But the use of
[19:24.100 --> 19:29.460] photographs was something that, comparing the real photographs to photographs we saw taken
[19:29.460 --> 19:34.180] throughout the film, that worked for me. It's like, that was enough. I didn't need to see,
[19:34.980 --> 19:39.620] you know, don't tell me what each character is now doing in their life, or how long they lived,
[19:39.620 --> 19:46.980] or whatever. I don't, the photographs worked and became that connection point to the real story in
[19:46.980 --> 19:54.500] the film we just saw. So, yeah, I could talk about this film for a good while. I did find it extremely,
[19:54.500 --> 20:00.260] extremely interesting to watch. And just begin, I will say as a warning for anybody, listen, I mean,
[20:00.260 --> 20:05.860] it is a very difficult watch. If you saw the 93 version alive, I'm going to go ahead and guess
[20:06.580 --> 20:12.340] this was more intense and more harrowing than that. Just my guess, because I know that was a
[20:12.340 --> 20:16.820] Hollywood driven film with bankable movie stars, and they typically aren't going to go quite as
[20:17.620 --> 20:23.300] as in depth. This one, this one's a tough watch, but very, very tough, but not extremely rewarding.
[20:23.300 --> 20:28.900] When I think I'll say, you know, kind of echoing what you're saying, you're saying it's a rewarding
[20:28.980 --> 20:34.100] watch, it's a tough watch, but it's worth seeing. And I'll second that. And I'll say it's better,
[20:34.100 --> 20:38.820] you know, if you're wondering, like I was what I heard this movie was, Oh, well, I've seen a
[20:38.820 --> 20:43.700] live, I know the story. Do I need to see any answers as I've kind of already mentioned? Yeah,
[20:43.700 --> 20:47.780] this, I think this is the superior version, not the versions terrible, but I think it's
[20:48.340 --> 20:52.020] told by the people who should be telling the story. You should be telling the story.
[20:52.020 --> 20:58.180] Yeah. So, I'm glad that I saw it. And I would recommend that people who saw
[20:58.180 --> 21:01.300] live, if you're interested in the story, yeah, you should check this out as well.
[21:03.140 --> 21:08.740] Jay Bayona, I just want to mention, you know, I have not seen the impossible. I have not seen
[21:08.740 --> 21:14.500] the orphanage. Actually, I'm not really familiar with his other films. Unfortunately, other than
[21:14.500 --> 21:20.100] the Jurassic Park movie, which we did review, and I was not a fan of. Okay. Well, let me, let me,
[21:20.100 --> 21:26.100] okay, the orphanage, I will also highly recommend it's a horror film. It was very unusual. I think
[21:26.980 --> 21:32.260] somebody who I think kind of helped shepherd him along with that film was Guillermo Datora. I think
[21:32.260 --> 21:37.060] he kind of helped because he at that point had had some success. And he's like, Hey, here's another
[21:37.060 --> 21:40.340] upcoming guy that I'm going to support and kind of put the word out there. You need to see this
[21:40.340 --> 21:47.700] film like the orphanage a lot. Impossible. It was really interesting because it's based,
[21:47.700 --> 21:53.060] you and I were talking before we went on air, based on an event, a tsunami event that did happen,
[21:53.060 --> 21:57.460] but the actual story that's told in there of a couple with a kid who gets split up
[21:58.340 --> 22:02.180] and how they like struggle to try to find each other. That was kind of fabricated.
[22:03.060 --> 22:06.900] Actually, I'm sorry. Was it not? Let me give you a note because we're fact checking this in real
[22:06.900 --> 22:12.180] time. This is Chris is referring to the film The Impossible for 2012 directed by J.
[22:12.180 --> 22:18.420] Bayona. It also depicts a disaster, you know, and that is a tsunami. So it actually, my,
[22:18.420 --> 22:22.980] my apologies. I told Chris beforehand it was not based on a true story. It actually is based on
[22:22.980 --> 22:28.580] the experience of a true person and her family. Okay. So a true family that, you know,
[22:28.580 --> 22:32.420] are kind of relayed their experience that's during this tsunami. And that was what was made
[22:32.420 --> 22:40.660] in the movie. So there I go. So J. Bayona has done two disaster related true stories and showing
[22:40.660 --> 22:47.300] kind of the human spirit of, you know, getting through these trials and tribulations. So that
[22:47.300 --> 22:52.500] was what The Impossible did. And now he's done that with the Society of the Snow. But you're saying
[22:52.500 --> 22:58.260] the movie itself, your call, you know, pressure of the film is okay. I would say it's okay. The
[22:58.260 --> 23:04.020] thing that was troubling and granted when I watched it, the internet had already like voiced
[23:04.020 --> 23:10.660] their opinions. The big, the big brew, haha, with that film was that the couple is you and McGregor,
[23:10.660 --> 23:15.140] Naomi Watts. And I don't remember who the child was. It's actually Mr. Tom Holland.
[23:15.140 --> 23:19.620] Oh, wow. Tom Holland was the boy. Okay. So that was before he was Spider-Man, I guess.
[23:19.700 --> 23:25.220] Okay. So those are people and a lot of people's concern are kind of what they complained about
[23:25.220 --> 23:34.260] the film was where was did the tsunami take place? The tsunami took place and just said the Indian
[23:34.260 --> 23:40.900] Ocean. Okay. Okay. So basically, instead of following people and what happened to people of that
[23:40.900 --> 23:47.460] region, they follow a white. Thailand. Okay, Thailand. Okay. So instead of following like all these
[23:48.420 --> 23:52.980] people in Thailand, people native to the country, what happened to them, they followed this
[23:52.980 --> 23:59.620] affluent white couple. Yeah. And they're like, okay, yeah, and it's terrible to whoever was there.
[23:59.620 --> 24:03.300] But the fact that they are the focus, a lot of people really came down on the film. I could
[24:03.300 --> 24:11.380] say that. But so I will say that I think it showed though that Bayona could do a scope of a huge
[24:12.420 --> 24:16.660] event like that. And with Society of Snow, you can see how his skills that he's developed as a
[24:16.660 --> 24:21.700] filmmaker, how they came to play. And I think, you know, this is obviously from what Alan and
[24:21.700 --> 24:27.940] I've said, Society of Snow is a much better film. Yeah. I know this was a technically a 2023 release
[24:27.940 --> 24:34.340] sure came out like very late 2023 on Netflix, I believe. Or did not come out to January. It may
[24:34.340 --> 24:38.660] have come like early January. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. But it technically got at least some
[24:38.660 --> 24:43.540] theatrical release in 2023 to be able to be considered for awards, correct? Right. I think
[24:43.540 --> 24:50.660] they have to. And this is what was the whose country submission was this? The Spain's?
[24:51.940 --> 24:58.100] Or it may be. Or Uruguay's? Yeah. Good question. Because the filming place,
[24:58.100 --> 25:02.500] the filming locations were in Chile in the Andes Mountains. So I don't know if it could be,
[25:02.500 --> 25:08.100] yes, I don't know whose actual entry it is. But it definitely is an entry. Okay. And I looked
[25:08.100 --> 25:12.900] and saw that especially January 4th was the release date in the US. Okay.
[25:12.900 --> 25:20.740] Unlike Netflix. All right. So then the film is right. The film is nominated for best foreign
[25:20.740 --> 25:26.340] language picture. One of the five nominees for this year's Academy Awards, correct? Yes. All right.
[25:27.380 --> 25:31.380] I know I'm saying this without having seen all the other entries, but this is absolutely
[25:31.380 --> 25:35.860] my favorite right now. Fair enough. We will certainly see if that's the way it ends up.
[25:36.740 --> 25:42.180] And if, you know, if I had seen this in 2023, this probably would have been somewhere bouncing
[25:42.180 --> 25:48.420] around in my top five, six, seven films, as it is now since it technically is releasing United
[25:48.420 --> 25:54.580] States in January, we are considering this a 2024 film. So right now, it's my favorite film of 2024.
[25:55.780 --> 25:59.700] Good. I only have maybe three to work with on that scope. Fair enough. We'll see.
[26:00.100 --> 26:05.540] That is Society of the Snow. Anything else, Chris, for a mention? I need to mention there.
[26:05.540 --> 26:11.220] No, I think it's a strong contender for the award at the Academy Awards. We'll have to wait and see.
[26:11.780 --> 26:18.020] Okay. The film is representing Spain. It is Spain. Spain is this is their production
[26:18.020 --> 26:23.620] for the Academy Awards. And it is one of the films nominated for international feature film
[26:23.620 --> 26:28.500] and best makeup and hairstyling also got a combination for that as well. Okay. So you got two nominations.
[26:28.580 --> 26:34.420] Okay. Yep. So we will certainly see on March 10th how this film fairs in both of those categories.
[26:34.420 --> 26:40.500] So all right. Society of the Snow, it is available on Netflix right now. It is Netflix exclusive here
[26:40.500 --> 26:46.500] in the United States. So that is where you can see it. We're both recommending it strongly. But
[26:47.300 --> 26:52.260] it is a it is a tough watch. Always like to throw that in there, not that we're trying to
[26:52.260 --> 26:55.700] be parental with it all. But just, you know, I think it's important to know that
[26:56.260 --> 27:00.900] it's a tough subject matter. It's a very, very difficult story. But I feel like expertly,
[27:00.900 --> 27:07.780] expertly told. So okay. Chris, let's take a quick little break and we come back. I want to hear
[27:07.780 --> 27:14.980] your most anticipated films of 2024. It's going to be fun. I love countdowns. I love numbers. I
[27:14.980 --> 27:19.700] love list. Chris has got one to share. So we're going to go through his list here in just a moment.
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[27:45.780 --> 27:51.860] Hello and welcome back to footcandalfilms here on the mesh.tv podcast network. Chris and I had our
[27:51.860 --> 27:57.060] review of society of the snow earlier, both high recommendations for that film,
[27:57.060 --> 28:04.180] well made film available on Netflix. But Chris, as I said, that was technically a 2024 release
[28:04.180 --> 28:09.220] came out on Netflix or in the United States at the very first week of January. So it is one of the
[28:09.220 --> 28:15.220] first releases of the year. But you know, we talked about our 20, 23 best of year, a couple
[28:15.220 --> 28:20.260] episodes ago, we recap the year. Every year we always look forward to see what are some films
[28:20.260 --> 28:26.260] coming out this coming year that we're looking forward to. And I may have some of my own kind of
[28:26.260 --> 28:32.340] penciled in somewhere, but you have actually created a list. And I want to hear your list of the 10
[28:33.300 --> 28:38.740] your most anticipated films of 2024. But do you need to set up some rules for us or
[28:38.740 --> 28:44.180] crumbles on things? Always have round rules. Make sure we know. So just like with the lists that
[28:44.180 --> 28:49.300] you and I've already done for years in or we're doing films, this list is also enough or yeah,
[28:49.300 --> 28:55.220] it's an alphabetical order. So not ranked by importance or or like your released first or whatever.
[28:55.220 --> 29:03.220] No, it's just just an alphabetical thing of 10 films. Right. So and these assuming release dates
[29:03.220 --> 29:09.860] stick, these all will come out in 2024. Some have in letterbox, they have 2023 dates, but I'm assuming
[29:09.860 --> 29:13.700] that means they were doing festival circuits. And then though I still don't come out this year.
[29:13.700 --> 29:19.220] No, just a I guess to put the disclaimer out, some of these films may not make it in 2025.
[29:19.380 --> 29:25.140] That's true. You may be revisiting them for your 2025 list if they don't make it out yet.
[29:25.140 --> 29:30.820] Right. And then guiding principle for the list as well as there are no sequels, no remakes,
[29:30.820 --> 29:36.260] and no cinematic universes. So there's going to be no Marvel cinematic stuff. There's no,
[29:36.260 --> 29:41.460] there's no dune to, there's not, you know, none of that. They're Deadpool three. No Deadpool three.
[29:41.460 --> 29:44.580] So it's because that actually violated two of the rules. All right, you know,
[29:44.580 --> 29:48.420] cinematic universe and a sequel. Right. So none of that stuff can be here.
[29:48.420 --> 29:54.820] So that kind of forces me to kind of, you know, really scavenge what's supposed to come out and
[29:54.820 --> 30:00.420] really try to find some unique titles. So, and I will go ahead and say, because I made this list,
[30:01.220 --> 30:05.780] December 31st, I have already seen one of the films on this list. So one of the 10 films you're
[30:05.780 --> 30:10.420] going to be listing is something you've already seen now. But you had it on your list as of December
[30:10.420 --> 30:15.620] 31st for your anticipated films of 2024. What I should do, yes, and what I should do probably
[30:15.620 --> 30:22.260] at the end of the year is see how many of these films succumb to the, I had two high expectations
[30:22.260 --> 30:25.940] and that hurt my opinion of the film. I think we need to do a little research project, Chris,
[30:25.940 --> 30:30.820] on each of your anticipated films every year and then correlate it against your rate,
[30:30.820 --> 30:34.020] your best films list at the end of the year. Because it, I think it does do.
[30:34.020 --> 30:38.500] Find out what percentage of films actually do make it. And if it wasn't for your level of
[30:38.500 --> 30:42.100] anticipation built up, could they have fared better? Could they have not? No, possibly.
[30:44.660 --> 30:49.140] So, you know, theory be damned. We're going to go forward with it anyway,
[30:49.140 --> 30:54.100] and still hear your anticipated films for 2024. Excellent. So the first one
[30:54.100 --> 30:58.660] they'll start off with is called the American Society of Magical Negroes.
[30:58.660 --> 31:03.460] Yes. It's being directed by Kobe Libby and I'll give you kind of the plot description as what it's
[31:03.460 --> 31:09.380] given in Letterboxed. Aaron is an idealistic young black man who's recruited by veteran agent
[31:09.380 --> 31:14.100] Roger into the American Society of Magical Negroes. Aaron finds that working for the
[31:14.100 --> 31:20.900] Society of Ancient Secret and Magical Organization dedicated to making white people's lives easier
[31:20.900 --> 31:27.460] is the most challenging and unexpected journey of his life. It stars Justice Smith as Aaron and
[31:27.460 --> 31:33.780] David Allen Greer is also starring in the film. So just the premise of that, I'm completely
[31:33.780 --> 31:39.220] unfamiliar with the director. I think this is his directorial debut. So that kind of adds interest
[31:39.220 --> 31:44.900] right there. But I'll admit how I came up with this title. I was in the theaters around the
[31:44.900 --> 31:49.620] holiday scene, you know, films just like everybody else. And I saw the poster for this and I was like,
[31:49.620 --> 31:55.700] do what? And just the title you're kind of like, okay. And so then I started doing some research.
[31:55.700 --> 32:02.020] I'm like, okay, it goes on the list. Because it just, it's a very unique premise.
[32:02.020 --> 32:08.020] Well, playing on that cinematic trope that I saw me movies have fallen into in the past and gotten
[32:08.020 --> 32:14.260] properly criticized for is the quote, magical Negroes idea of someone that you need as a
[32:14.260 --> 32:18.900] supporting character to just kind of magically show up in a film or have some sort of profound
[32:18.900 --> 32:25.380] impact on the lead actor actress. You can think of things like Field of Dreams or Shawshank
[32:25.380 --> 32:29.860] Redemption. Yeah, there's a lot of those examples. And yes, it is a very
[32:30.820 --> 32:36.580] overused and unfairly used premise for film. So they're obviously wanting to make some commentary
[32:36.580 --> 32:41.380] on that for sure with this film. And I think that's great. I'm excited to see it as well.
[32:41.380 --> 32:48.100] So that was the first one. Next up, we have the bike riders, which I don't have we done a trailer
[32:48.100 --> 32:52.340] top us on that film. Okay. That was supposed to come out this year. Okay. It's supposed to be on 2023.
[32:53.140 --> 32:59.540] It actually because of the strike, it got delayed. Okay. The film was done. It was set for release
[32:59.540 --> 33:04.980] and they pushed it back to June. So just kind of give a recap on what this film is about. It is
[33:04.980 --> 33:11.780] directed by Jeff Nichols and it stars Jody Komer, Austin Butler and Tom Hardy and Michael Shannon.
[33:12.580 --> 33:17.780] Kathy, a strong world member of The Vandals, which is a bicycle game, who's married to a wild
[33:17.860 --> 33:22.500] reckless bike rider named Benny recounts the Vandals evolution over the course of a decade,
[33:22.500 --> 33:27.380] beginning as a local club of outsiders, united by good times, rumbling bikes and respect for
[33:27.380 --> 33:31.780] their strong leader, Johnny, as life in the Vandals gets more dangerous and the club threatens to
[33:31.780 --> 33:37.780] become a more sinister game. Gang, Kathy, Benny and Johnny are forced to make choices about their
[33:37.780 --> 33:44.740] allegiances and loyalty to the club and to each other. So and it's based on a book of photography,
[33:44.820 --> 33:51.460] I think maybe that was that was taken of like basically like a Hills Angels type club, I guess,
[33:51.460 --> 33:56.180] the Vandals of that. And then some I wrote kind of this screenplay kind of around the idea of
[33:56.180 --> 34:02.180] like documenting what happens. So that's my understanding at least. Jeff Nichols, always a big
[34:02.180 --> 34:09.220] fan of his and you know, the cast looks impressive. So yes, you could say it just looks like kind of
[34:09.220 --> 34:15.380] like a easy rider type redo type in a way, but I don't know, or something like I guess I never
[34:15.380 --> 34:20.660] watched the show, but like a Sons of Anarchy riff or something. So because that dealt with like
[34:20.660 --> 34:25.300] motorcycle gangs and stuff, but I don't know, I'm interested. No, no, I was I think I actually
[34:25.300 --> 34:30.660] brought this up as a film I was very curious about and anxious to see. So glad to see it's still
[34:30.660 --> 34:37.540] major list. That is awesome. Okay, so and hopefully we'll come out. It didn't come out in 2023. Hopefully
[34:38.420 --> 34:42.100] should be a pretty luck for this year. I mean, I think the idea is it was done. I mean, it's a
[34:42.100 --> 34:47.860] movie that was ready to be released. It was just because of the strikes that were going on, they just
[34:47.860 --> 34:51.460] couldn't promote it. And they have a lot of star power behind the film. So they wanted to get it
[34:51.460 --> 35:00.420] out there. So yeah. So next up is the book of Clarence. This was a 2023 that came out in 2024.
[35:00.420 --> 35:06.420] James Samuels, the director, the cast, the Keith Stanfield, Omar Sy, David, a yellow,
[35:07.300 --> 35:12.500] the story I'll give you is a street wise down his luck, Clarence. That's the Keith Stanfield
[35:12.500 --> 35:16.900] is struggling to find a better life for his family while fighting to free himself of debt,
[35:17.540 --> 35:23.300] captivated by the power and glory of the rising Messiah and his apostles. He risks everything to
[35:23.300 --> 35:28.420] carve his own path to a divine life and ultimately discovers the redemptive power of belief,
[35:29.060 --> 35:35.620] maybe his only way out. So yes, this is a biblical epic and takes place back in that time.
[35:38.180 --> 35:44.100] I was thinking when I put this on my list, I have now seen it. So that it was going to be kind of a
[35:44.660 --> 35:49.540] kind of like a life of Brian take, you know, the money Python film, Life of Brian done,
[35:49.540 --> 35:51.780] obviously a while ago, because it was my Python film.
[35:52.660 --> 36:01.780] It is a really interesting film and I think I'm glad I saw it. I think it did. It is one that
[36:01.780 --> 36:07.380] suffered definitely from my expectations because James Samuel also made a film that I believe was
[36:07.380 --> 36:12.580] a Netflix original that was the harder they fall that was like a Western and I liked that one and
[36:12.580 --> 36:17.460] I thought it was good. And then he took on this crazy premise of what I just described and I was
[36:17.460 --> 36:21.620] like, okay, and then I saw the names involved. I was like, okay, this is going to be amazing.
[36:22.740 --> 36:29.380] And it was, it was good. And I think it should be praised because it is a biblical epic
[36:29.380 --> 36:36.500] that for the most part has an all black cast. So just, I can imagine that it might be kind of
[36:36.500 --> 36:41.860] cool for people who have never seen depictions of the Bible with that type of cast. That could be a
[36:41.860 --> 36:46.820] very, you know, edifying thing to see there, you know, I see somebody that looks like me up on the
[36:46.820 --> 36:53.460] screen doing something back in biblical times. Okay, so I plot it for that. But something about
[36:55.060 --> 37:01.060] and I think this all relied the acting was fine. It was great across the board. Camera work looked
[37:01.060 --> 37:10.100] great. Direction was good. But the script for me struggled between being a little too comedic
[37:10.100 --> 37:15.860] and then the tone shifting into something that's pretty, pretty serious as far as some stuff going on.
[37:15.860 --> 37:20.980] So, and I don't know, maybe I should, maybe I need to see it again and just realize like,
[37:20.980 --> 37:26.260] now that I know what it is and know how things kind of shuffle out, be more okay with it. I don't
[37:26.260 --> 37:31.460] know. But it's, I'm glad this film exists. I would be curious if you ever caught up with it,
[37:31.460 --> 37:38.180] what your thoughts were on it. So not overall successful for me, but I am glad that I saw it.
[37:38.180 --> 37:42.900] So that's the book I clearance. I don't know if it is still in theaters. It wasn't theaters,
[37:42.980 --> 37:46.820] but I think it's probably made it. Yeah, I think it's already out. So maybe something people can just
[37:47.380 --> 37:53.220] catch up with when it hits a streaming service. That's the book of clearance. Okay, definitely a
[37:53.220 --> 37:59.540] filmmaker, you know, harder they fall with this film. I'm still interested to see what he's going to do
[37:59.540 --> 38:06.100] next because hopefully I don't think this film make a lot of money. So hopefully he'll still get a
[38:06.100 --> 38:11.380] chance to continue making films because I think he's talented and obviously has the imagination. So,
[38:12.340 --> 38:17.300] so that's the book of clearance. Okay, working down the alphabet, I believe the next film I'm
[38:17.300 --> 38:22.740] going to mention, we have also mentioned, but I'm not sure you'll have to tell me, is Civil War
[38:22.740 --> 38:27.380] by Alex Garland. I think we did a trailer for this. Yes, we have talked about this as well. We show
[38:27.380 --> 38:32.660] the trailer and discuss it a bit. Yeah. So it's another one of those with a big cast got Kirsten
[38:32.660 --> 38:38.420] Dunce, Jesse Flemens, which I don't know from here on out since a power of the dog, are they always
[38:38.500 --> 38:43.140] going to be sold as a package, even though they may not be like husband wife or whatever, like the
[38:43.140 --> 38:47.460] same film, it just seems like now that power the dog happened, which I believe that was the first
[38:47.460 --> 38:53.940] time they were on screen together as far as I can recall. It's like now like, I feel like another
[38:53.940 --> 38:59.460] film recently has also had them in it as well. So it's just interesting. But Alex Garland,
[38:59.460 --> 39:07.140] huge fan of his and it's kind of the near future dystopian film where the US stands on the brink
[39:07.140 --> 39:13.700] of a civil war. I'm interested to see it. Could a problem with it could be that it could be
[39:13.700 --> 39:19.300] a struggle to watch in 2024? Seeing as well. We are in an election year and that tends to
[39:19.940 --> 39:23.620] make things very on edge. I think it's going to be a very interesting release of this film in
[39:23.620 --> 39:30.420] April when it comes out. Yeah, but still it. No, I'm super excited for this film. I brought it up.
[39:30.420 --> 39:35.300] I remember with our trailers, because I was really curious the tone of the film.
[39:36.260 --> 39:40.340] Yeah, I couldn't tell if this was Alex Garland trying to make something a more
[39:41.380 --> 39:49.860] actions and more broad appeal film, tapping into our societies once at this point. Or if there was
[39:49.860 --> 39:54.100] going to be something more to it than what we saw on the surface. And I'm kind of hoping for
[39:54.100 --> 39:58.980] something more. But I still trust that it's going to be an interesting film regardless.
[39:59.940 --> 40:05.300] Agreed. Yeah, it's going to be. Yeah, you said April. So it's approaching. We don't have to wait
[40:05.300 --> 40:10.740] all the way till summer or proceed picture time in November. So we'll find out the answer pretty
[40:10.740 --> 40:17.620] soon, hopefully. So next up, we have driveaway dolls, which is a new film by Ethan Cohen.
[40:18.420 --> 40:25.060] And this is another film where he and Joel are not working together. It is just Ethan. To me,
[40:25.060 --> 40:28.660] it seems like kind of a return instead of going the Macbeth route.
[40:29.940 --> 40:36.820] Did Ethan or Joel do Macbeth? I don't know. Yeah, it may have been Joel, but instead of doing
[40:37.540 --> 40:41.300] something that does not fall into something I would think the Cohen brothers would do,
[40:41.300 --> 40:47.460] rather working independently or together. This looks like something that is a Cohen brothers
[40:47.460 --> 40:54.180] sound like I get it. It's Jamie, an uninhibited free spirit, bemoaning yet another breakup with
[40:54.180 --> 40:58.740] a girlfriend and her dream year friend Marion desperately needs to loosen up in search of a fresh
[40:58.740 --> 41:04.340] start. The two embark on an impromptu road trip to Tallahassee where things go awry because they
[41:04.340 --> 41:10.900] cross pass with a group of inept criminals along the way. So you have the whole like two happy go
[41:10.900 --> 41:16.020] licky people run into criminals, you know, and things start happening, they chase them. You have kind
[41:16.020 --> 41:22.900] of the from the trailer, at least the stereotypical kind of Cohen brothers dark humor. It looks like
[41:23.460 --> 41:28.820] a lighter blood simple because you have that whole crime thing, but it still has some like jokes
[41:28.820 --> 41:36.500] kind of like a raising Arizona feel to it. Yeah, and you've got Margaret Qualley, you've got
[41:36.500 --> 41:42.820] Beanie Feldstein, Coleman Domingo, Pedro Pascal, Matt Damon. So I think some of Pedro Pascal, Matt
[41:42.820 --> 41:49.780] Damon and more like cameo role type of things, but still kind of an interesting buddy film.
[41:50.580 --> 41:57.380] So I'll be interested. So Joel was the director of the tragedy of Macbeth. So he didn't agree with
[41:57.380 --> 42:03.940] that. And Ethan is now this is his first solo thing. And yeah, he definitely seems to be adopting
[42:03.940 --> 42:09.540] more of the com the traditional Cohen brothers style film, but who knows, it could be a little
[42:09.540 --> 42:14.340] different to them what we're expecting. So I remember seeing a trailer for this several months
[42:14.340 --> 42:19.380] ago, because I don't know where I knew nothing about it. It was kind of shocked when I saw it was
[42:19.460 --> 42:25.700] Ethan Cohen film. And anyway, and then it seems like the delay from when they showed the trailer
[42:25.700 --> 42:29.300] to when this film's released. I don't know if it also suffered a little bit from writer strike
[42:29.300 --> 42:36.260] delay or who knows. Yeah, I'm not sure. But that is coming out in when? I don't know. It's there again,
[42:36.260 --> 42:41.220] it's listed as 2024. It looks like it's going to be hold on. I'll be able to tell you right here.
[42:41.780 --> 42:46.660] February. Oh, okay. February 23rd is the date for driver way dolls. And as far as I know too,
[42:46.740 --> 42:54.660] I forgot to mention these films with the exception of one are theatrical releases. I think
[42:54.660 --> 43:00.420] that's another rule you've laid on top of it. It just so happened. No, well, yeah,
[43:00.420 --> 43:05.460] with the exception of that thing too, I know we're coming anyways, who knows how but I like
[43:05.460 --> 43:09.220] driveway dolls. Maybe it's just going to go straight to Netflix. I don't know, but I think it's
[43:09.220 --> 43:16.340] theatrical. We'll have to see. Okay, so next I have an evil does not exist. This is from
[43:17.300 --> 43:24.100] Rasuke Hamaguchi, and he's the person who did drive my car, which was Oscar nominated a couple
[43:24.100 --> 43:31.380] years ago. So this is a new film by him. It has a 2023 release date, so I think it has played festivals.
[43:31.380 --> 43:39.220] So, but the summary of the film is Takumi and his daughter, Hannah, live in Mitsubiki village
[43:39.220 --> 43:44.260] close to Tokyo. One day the village inhabitants become aware of a plan to build a camps camping
[43:44.260 --> 43:50.100] site near Tuka Yumi's house, offering city residents a comfortable escape to nature.
[43:50.900 --> 43:55.460] And I think things from what I've heard, I haven't even seen a trailer for the film,
[43:55.460 --> 43:59.540] it's kind of like it's a corporation kind of making a campsite. So it's kind of like
[44:00.180 --> 44:05.140] what happens to their neighborhood. It's like a corporatized version of nature. It's like,
[44:05.140 --> 44:08.340] I don't know, there's some interesting things going on there, but I just
[44:08.340 --> 44:12.820] surely based because it's the guy who did drive my car. I was a very long film,
[44:12.820 --> 44:18.660] and I remember really liking it. This is actually only 106 minutes, so it's a bit more concise.
[44:18.660 --> 44:24.100] Like, half the length of driving the car. But I was just curious to see something else from
[44:24.180 --> 44:29.700] that filmmaker. So that's evil, does not exist, have no idea when it's going to be released or how,
[44:30.340 --> 44:37.220] but it was, you know, festival circuit 2023. So I think at some point, it will come out in 2020.
[44:37.220 --> 44:45.780] Okay. All right. So for the general audiences. Okay, so continuing on, we have hitman by Richard
[44:45.780 --> 44:52.580] Linklater, filmmaker we know have talked about here on the show many times. But this film is
[44:52.580 --> 44:58.260] the theory behind the synopsis behind it is a cop working undercover as the most in-demand
[44:58.260 --> 45:04.980] hitman in Houston breaks protocol in order to help a desperate woman escape her abusive boyfriend.
[45:04.980 --> 45:11.540] Now, in general, would not be interested in that, in that description. But the fact Richard Linklater
[45:11.540 --> 45:17.140] is doing it, I'm curious. And then Glenn Powell, who was somebody who was in Top Gun,
[45:17.140 --> 45:22.260] he was in a romantic comedy that came out around the holidays, which I don't even anyone, but you
[45:22.260 --> 45:29.220] I think was the name of that one. And I did not see it. All right, right. But hitman, I'm curious,
[45:29.220 --> 45:33.220] because Richard Linklater, I'm always curious to see what he does. He's an interesting filmmaker.
[45:33.860 --> 45:39.380] But with this one, I don't know, I'm curious, it came out, or it's been doing festival circuit
[45:39.380 --> 45:47.220] in 2023. So some early people have seen it already. And I believe it is a Netflix release,
[45:47.220 --> 45:50.340] possibly. I think I did hear that this one's going to be Netflix, maybe.
[45:50.500 --> 45:54.900] Now, we'll have a theatrical run beforehand. I don't know. I don't have that handy, but
[45:55.940 --> 46:00.500] it's probably a pretty good guest Netflix release. I mean, I'm just going to say it's a Netflix
[46:00.500 --> 46:04.580] release for any film, just assume that I got a 50-50 chance of being right. So, right.
[46:05.380 --> 46:09.220] Okay. So that's hitman, June 7th is the day for that. Okay, June 7th. Okay.
[46:10.900 --> 46:18.020] Next up, Mickey 17, this one did have a release date of 2024 when I put it on the list. And
[46:18.020 --> 46:23.860] unfortunately now that release date has disappeared. Yeah, they've taken it off the release schedule
[46:23.860 --> 46:30.100] altogether. See, that's that's frightening. It was directed by Bong, June Ho and the
[46:30.100 --> 46:36.100] plus synopsis with this one. Mickey 17 is an expendable, a disposable employee on a human
[46:36.100 --> 46:43.460] expedition sent to colonize the ice world of Nifheim. After one iteration dies, a new body is
[46:43.540 --> 46:48.900] regenerated with most of its memories intact. So then it's like wondering, what are you doing to me?
[46:48.900 --> 46:55.380] Kind of in a way similar to Moon by Duncan Jones that you and I talked about a long time ago in
[46:55.380 --> 47:03.300] this history. But this one stars Robert Pattinson. I believe as Mickey 17, Mark Ruffalo, Tony Collette
[47:03.300 --> 47:11.060] or in it as well, Steven Eun. Interesting cast. I love sci-fi. I'm a big fan of Bong, June Ho.
[47:11.140 --> 47:18.100] His prior film, Parasite, was my top film of that year. But I am worried that this has been
[47:18.100 --> 47:24.980] bumped. So it has been. So yes, well, that'll be an interesting thing to see what happens with this film.
[47:24.980 --> 47:28.740] Yeah. But when it's going to come out or have. Hopefully, it's just a matter of
[47:28.740 --> 47:32.500] maybe distribution. I don't know. And hopefully it's not because there have been problems with it.
[47:32.500 --> 47:38.580] But yeah, I'm sad. Mickey 17. Yes. Okay. All right, waiting to hear on that one.
[47:38.580 --> 47:45.220] Yes. Next up is another 2024 film we have discussed on the show. It is being released on Netflix,
[47:45.220 --> 47:51.140] so we can confirm all those things. It is Space Man, which was the Adam Sandler film that we've
[47:51.140 --> 47:56.500] talked about the trailer as well. So since we talked about really recently, I won't do the whole
[47:56.500 --> 48:03.300] plot description, but it is sci-fi Adam Sandler's in it. He is the astronaut, the space man of the
[48:03.300 --> 48:10.820] title. So curious when he does things that are outside of his normal, just when he does something
[48:10.820 --> 48:14.180] that's not comedies, because his comedies can be very hit or miss, especially when they're done
[48:14.180 --> 48:21.060] for Netflix. But when he does things like, you know, what's the Paul Thomas Anderson
[48:21.700 --> 48:26.660] punch truck? Well, he does that. Or, you know, things like he did with
[48:26.660 --> 48:33.540] Saffty Brothers. I'm like, okay, you know, he, he still makes interesting choices. Yeah. So the
[48:33.540 --> 48:39.700] fact that he's doing a sci-fi film, the cast looks interesting, the trailer. Yeah, still interesting.
[48:39.700 --> 48:45.540] So we'll see that is Space Man. Yeah, that one's on my list for sure. So I think we've talked about
[48:45.700 --> 48:54.500] a good bit and very, very curious about that one. Yeah, great. So the 10th film on my list is Trap.
[48:56.100 --> 49:02.340] Plot is unknown at this time, but it is described as a psychological thriller set at a concert.
[49:03.540 --> 49:09.460] The people that are associated with the film, Josh Hartnett, Haley Mills of the parent trap fame,
[49:10.020 --> 49:12.180] and this will give you a clue as to the director,
[49:12.900 --> 49:18.980] Shalika Shyamalan, and the director is M. Night Shyamalan. Okay.
[49:20.740 --> 49:26.340] Writer, director. Writer, director of Night Shyamalan. Josh Harnett, Haley Mills.
[49:27.780 --> 49:32.660] Okay. So always interested to see, especially when it is not something he's doing like the
[49:32.660 --> 49:38.100] last Airbender, where he's just a director for hire, when he is taking on original material that
[49:38.100 --> 49:44.500] he wrote. I'm always willing to give him a shot. You know, he did old, was not, you know,
[49:44.500 --> 49:49.540] thought it had elements that were good, but then kind of fell apart for me. But still,
[49:49.540 --> 49:53.780] he's somebody that I'm always willing to give the benefit of the doubt. We know very little about
[49:53.780 --> 50:00.900] this, but something a psychological thriller set at a concert. Okay, that sounds like it would be.
[50:00.900 --> 50:06.500] And I think, although you and I differ, like I really liked Split, that was something that he did
[50:06.580 --> 50:12.420] semi recently, that I really liked. And then Glass had potential, but then kind of, you know,
[50:12.420 --> 50:16.580] Phil, but those were all both at the time when you saw Split, you didn't know it until the very
[50:16.580 --> 50:25.220] end, kind of a follow up or a thread on Unbreakable. Yeah. So I like Split Glass diminishing return
[50:25.220 --> 50:30.900] there. But still, I admire for him for trying to come up with original things and working how
[50:30.900 --> 50:38.020] he wants to. So with Trap, hopefully, this is not an extension of that trilogy with the heroes,
[50:38.020 --> 50:41.460] things that he was doing. I wouldn't think it is because it doesn't involve Bruce Willis,
[50:41.460 --> 50:46.820] doesn't have. Well, I think after the response of Glass, I think he had always said that that was
[50:46.820 --> 50:52.500] kind of meant to be kind of a trilogy of films he could put together. So I don't think we're
[50:52.500 --> 50:57.860] going to revisit that world. That would be my guess. I think you're a surprise. But you know,
[50:57.940 --> 51:03.220] to me, this sounds like a lot more like, well, like old old was one off film that was kind of
[51:03.220 --> 51:08.820] him exploring a story idea he had. I hope it's more like the visitor, because I did like the
[51:08.820 --> 51:14.260] visitor, the visit, I'm sorry, the visit with the grandparents film. Yeah, I like that. That to me
[51:14.260 --> 51:21.940] was like, good Shyamalan. It's like, self contained, singular story. It just it knows what it wants
[51:21.940 --> 51:26.340] to do with the story. And it's just going to have fun with it. And that that worked for me. So
[51:26.340 --> 51:30.900] and here's something out, you know, we've talked about, and I think all of his films,
[51:30.900 --> 51:36.260] yes, they've always had like a for the most part have had like a twist element or like an ending
[51:36.260 --> 51:40.500] where he does the thing because that was, you know, the sixth census kind of how I got that started.
[51:40.500 --> 51:49.220] But this film, if he could just make a psychological thriller, set in a concert and just worry about
[51:49.220 --> 51:55.620] making it a psychological thriller and not worry about maybe a twist ending, I think it could actually
[51:55.620 --> 52:00.500] be really good. You know, now if he does it, great. But like, if he could just say, you know what,
[52:00.500 --> 52:05.140] I'm going to set that aside and just make a psychological thriller. Yeah, it could be interesting.
[52:05.140 --> 52:10.020] No, I look up. I'm always willing to give him a shot. I mean, he lost all my faith after the
[52:10.020 --> 52:15.620] happening many years ago. But he worked to build it back. Well, after the happening, there was like
[52:15.620 --> 52:22.100] several films of just no, no interest at all after Earth. Last Airbender. Some of us just
[52:22.100 --> 52:26.900] did not work at all. Sure. But he started to kind of get back into his back into his groove.
[52:26.900 --> 52:33.060] And I'm not saying the films have been great, but they've been okay. And a little more hit or miss,
[52:33.060 --> 52:38.580] but but at least I admire the effort being put in. How do you do it? It'd be one thing if he was
[52:38.580 --> 52:43.540] just, you know, making movies for Marvel or making movies for DC and we felt like these were just
[52:43.540 --> 52:48.100] diminishing returns. But when you're trying to come up with original material and you're not
[52:48.180 --> 52:51.700] always thinking, it's like, well, but at least you're trying to. Well, we forgot not to knock at the
[52:51.700 --> 52:58.420] door. That was the cabin. Not the cabin. I'm sorry. That was based on a book. Yeah, that's true.
[52:58.420 --> 53:04.180] That's true. Yeah. And a lot, I think a lot of people really liked that film. And I was not as
[53:04.180 --> 53:10.500] high on it. I was mixed on it. I liked elements of it, but didn't work as a whole. So, yeah.
[53:10.500 --> 53:17.220] So I don't know. I'm I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt. He did make my top 10 list of the
[53:17.220 --> 53:21.300] films from 2020. Okay, fair enough. That's good. And this is early days yet because we don't even
[53:21.300 --> 53:25.300] have a poster for this one. But in theory, I was gonna say I looked it up and there's nothing
[53:25.300 --> 53:31.060] right about it. So other than just saying it's a film and 2024 is the year and I saw the couple
[53:31.060 --> 53:37.060] stars and that was in a way, especially with the Night Shyamalan film, where a lot depends on
[53:37.620 --> 53:44.580] possibly depends on twists or surprises. I would rather it just kind of come out and don't tell us
[53:44.580 --> 53:50.980] what the I mean, I don't even want to know what the the the thing of it is that the whole premise,
[53:50.980 --> 53:55.540] even old, that was the thing is that you kind of got the whole premise like way on early or by
[53:55.540 --> 54:00.580] year it was. And then it just kind of was setting itself up for a little failure, I think by the
[54:00.580 --> 54:06.900] end. Sure. I'm all fine with it. It's just going to be a true. Hey, it's a film called Trap.
[54:06.900 --> 54:12.340] It stars these people. It's coming out this date. That's all you need to know and just go and I'm
[54:12.340 --> 54:17.300] I'd be I'd be down with that. I think that'd be fun. Yeah. Yeah. So that is your 10. Yes.
[54:17.300 --> 54:21.620] Your 10 again, all original films, meaning they're not based on they're not remade,
[54:22.180 --> 54:26.740] remakes of other films or they're not sequels to existing films or part of any kind of cinematic
[54:26.740 --> 54:31.540] universe. So obviously there are a lot of films you did not include in there because of those parameters,
[54:31.540 --> 54:39.940] but 10 original story ideas as films that you are interested in. Yes. I'm I'm I'm with you on
[54:39.940 --> 54:43.620] most all of them. I think all of them at least have some level of interest with me as well.
[54:45.300 --> 54:48.420] So we will certainly see we're going to need to track these at the end of the year and just
[54:48.420 --> 54:53.460] see how we did what what films that I didn't mention that maybe are sequels or what what are
[54:53.460 --> 55:00.180] some highly anticipated films that you Alan have? Well, I think the only one I can honestly say I'm
[55:00.180 --> 55:06.260] like looking forward to that falls outside of that run. Honestly, I've looked at the whole release
[55:06.260 --> 55:12.180] schedule for 23 and 4 in it. I think the the more interesting films that you've been listing are
[55:12.180 --> 55:20.020] the ones I'm more anticipated for. There's not anything in a sequel, a franchise film that I can look at
[55:20.020 --> 55:25.620] and say I'm excited or interested in that film. The only one that meets that criteria and it's also
[55:25.620 --> 55:32.340] a is a trap being set for me because this film could be could be no good. Okay. Is the Beetlejuice
[55:32.340 --> 55:39.140] sequel? That's it. That is the only film I can look at this year and say, okay, it could be
[55:39.140 --> 55:44.020] really good. I got high hopes for it. Of course, I love the original. I want Tim Burton to return
[55:44.020 --> 55:49.220] to form. I want to see a really good Tim Burton movie again. I don't know, man. I don't know. It's
[55:50.660 --> 55:57.380] got the trappings of it could go either direction. Yeah, I think that would definitely would have
[55:57.380 --> 56:05.140] made my list if I didn't have my role, just simply because I like to think if somebody has
[56:05.140 --> 56:12.260] waited this long, it's resistance because I think I think people because Beetlejuice was successful.
[56:12.260 --> 56:16.900] Everybody involved it was very successful. I would have thought he would have been pushed
[56:17.460 --> 56:23.940] to do it before now. And the fact that it's been so delayed gives me hope that no, you know what,
[56:23.940 --> 56:30.900] maybe this script is absolutely amazing. And you know, Michael Keaton still doing great work.
[56:32.260 --> 56:37.300] He single handedly made me like the Flash movie from last year, which apparently nobody else did.
[56:38.500 --> 56:42.820] He achieved that pretty much on his own. Despite the fact I knew he was in the film,
[56:42.820 --> 56:47.860] despite the fact that it was ruined by the trailer, he still single handedly saved that film for me.
[56:47.860 --> 56:52.820] So yeah, if I didn't have my rules, that would have definitely made my list. I have tracked now
[56:52.820 --> 56:58.660] my films from 2023. So I'm going to run through them real quick. This is my, these are, let's see,
[56:58.660 --> 57:03.540] these are not enough about a quarter, but I'll just list them anyway. Asteroid City, though,
[57:03.540 --> 57:12.980] is afraid, Barbie, Napoleon, Oppenheimer, Killers of the Flower Man, next goal wins, Renfield, 65,
[57:13.540 --> 57:20.500] and the last voyage of the Demeter. So you can see in those films because we reviewed most of those
[57:20.580 --> 57:26.820] on the show. I think the ones that really let me down probably, though, is afraid, Renfield,
[57:26.820 --> 57:32.260] and 65, and voyages, last voyage of the Demeter, those are, but things that were successful for me,
[57:32.260 --> 57:37.380] obviously, Oppenheimer, Barbie, Killers of the Flower Man. So they were a little split on the list
[57:37.380 --> 57:43.620] there. Yeah. So you know, that's, that's, so I'd say it wasn't 100% lived up to the expectations.
[57:43.620 --> 57:48.980] Some did suffer, though, is afraid, it's probably the most vicious person that I suffer from. That
[57:48.980 --> 57:53.380] was the Ari Astra film that, Walking Phoenix, but, yeah, so that was my last
[57:53.380 --> 57:57.700] 23. You did. You did. You did. But you and I both did my, uh, last
[57:57.700 --> 58:03.860] voyage of the Demeter. Um, I didn't hate it, but it was, it could have been so much better.
[58:03.860 --> 58:09.540] And you never saw Renfield? I never saw Renfield. Okay, don't bother. And fortunately,
[58:09.540 --> 58:14.740] you've never seen 65 either, with Adam Driver. Yeah, I never saw 65, which that was one I
[58:14.740 --> 58:19.140] actually brought up on the show as being kind of interested in when it was first tease and trailer.
[58:19.140 --> 58:23.300] And then as soon as I heard some negative things about it, I'm like, okay, no, I'm good. Never mind.
[58:23.300 --> 58:28.420] Never mind. Not good. Unfortunately. Okay. So you're betting about 50% on your list from
[58:28.420 --> 58:33.780] 2023. We'll see if that holds up for 2024 or not. But uh, thank you for sharing with us your list.
[58:33.780 --> 58:38.820] Very happy to hear those. I've added a couple to my watch list that I was not aware of or thinking
[58:38.820 --> 58:45.220] about as much. And we will see what else happens, uh, with the rest of the year. All right. Well,
[58:45.220 --> 58:49.460] if anybody that wraps up our show for today, if anybody has any thoughts on any of the 10 films
[58:49.460 --> 58:53.620] that Chris mentioned or any others that we're maybe forgetting about coming up in 2024 that we
[58:53.620 --> 58:58.820] should be keeping watch on, uh, please let us know. You can contact us and let us know. Or if you got
[58:58.820 --> 59:03.940] thoughts on society of the snow that you want to share as well, Chris, how can they get a part of
[59:04.020 --> 59:09.540] the conversation with us? Sure. You can send an email to info at footcandal.org. You can follow us on
[59:09.540 --> 59:15.140] Twitter at footcandalfilm or on Facebook, footcandalfilm society, Instagram and threads. We're on there
[59:15.140 --> 59:21.540] as footcandalfilm. Alan and I are on Letterbox where we try to track what we're seeing, sometimes leave
[59:21.540 --> 59:28.020] quick takes, reviews, do us a favor, give us a star rating, write a review, share with your friends
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[59:32.340 --> 59:36.820] listeners and we would appreciate that. All right. Sounds good. Well, thank you so much
[59:36.820 --> 59:40.420] everybody for listening and we will look forward to talking to everybody next time as we review
[59:40.420 --> 59:46.100] another new film and have some other movie related discussions. So this has been Footcandal Films.
[59:46.100 --> 59:48.500] Thanks for listening. See you in the ticket line.
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