Perfect Days

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[00:00:32] Hello and welcome to Footcandle Films here on the MESH.tv podcast network. My name is Alan Jackson with me Chris Fry. We are with the Footcandle Film Society

[00:00:45] and the annual Footcandle Film Festival. But today we're here to talk movies and review movies and talk award winners.

[00:00:54] How are you doing? I'm doing well despite coming off my worst ever Oscar-predicting performance.

[00:01:03] We need to talk about that because I'm humbled.

[00:01:06] I'm a little worried about you. It was a rough year for you on the Oscar predictions. I did much better than you, which is not common.

[00:01:13] That's normally the other way around.

[00:01:16] It's too only a screening of 80 for Brady.

[00:01:19] But we may have to do we void it out now because you're going to owe me something and do it or not.

[00:01:24] We didn't agree before the contest happens.

[00:01:27] That's true. I'm still woefully behind like a year behind on my screening of 84 Brady. I have now picked out a film that you're going to want.

[00:01:35] Well, we didn't really make a deal about it. We didn't. We did not shake on anything before this year.

[00:01:41] You get off scot free. It seems like we're just having a bad prediction year.

[00:01:44] But we will talk about those awards and what went right, what went wrong and maybe some surprises we had with those Academy Award winning announcements that were made this past Sunday night.

[00:01:55] But before we do all of that, and also I think we have one of Chris Ries patented recommendations for us as well.

[00:02:01] He's going to share a film recommendation at the end of the show.

[00:02:05] But before we do that, before we do your recommendation, before we do the Oscar winners, we do have a film to review.

[00:02:10] And that is a film that actually was nominated for best international feature film at the Academy Awards did not win it.

[00:02:16] But we're still going to talk about it anyway because it's a film worth reviewing.

[00:02:21] It is the latest film by writer director of Vim Benders and it was Japan's entry into the international feature film competition.

[00:02:29] It is the film Perfect Days. So that's what we're going to review and then we'll go on and do our news and we'll do our recommendations.

[00:02:35] So Chris, are we ready to get started?

[00:02:37] Yeah, let's do it.

[00:02:38] All right, let's jump into our review of Vim Benders Perfect Days.

[00:02:58] And you just keep me hanging on.

[00:03:08] Shot in just 17 days and based on combining four short stories together, director Vim Benders Perfect Days follows Hirayama played by Koji Akusho as he goes about his work routine of cleaning public toilets in Tokyo.

[00:03:24] Hirayama enjoys listening to music in his van while Chris crossing the city to perform his duties and lunches daily in a park reflecting an often photographing the sunlight filtering through the canopy of tree leaves overhead.

[00:03:37] As the days pass by, some unexpected encounters cause him to reflect on the life he leads.

[00:03:42] I've identified Perfect Days as fitting into a classification of films that are often dubbed slow cinema.

[00:03:49] By this, I mean that films that can be seen to involve minimal plot, minimal action, few characters and little dialogue.

[00:03:57] At times I can find this type of film tedious.

[00:04:00] Others, if I can manage to get on the film's wavelength, I can enjoy them quite a bit.

[00:04:05] Alan, were you able to settle in with this film for a satisfying watch?

[00:04:09] Or did you find yourself wanting a more dynamic story to kick in?

[00:04:13] To put it another way, a full candle member who logged this film recently on letterbox asked, can a good vibe still be interminable thoughts?

[00:04:24] I had not seen that quote from that member of our film society.

[00:04:29] I will say, I'll put in it that he did give it four stars, but I thought it was an interesting question.

[00:04:34] Right, no, I think that actually sums up how I do feel about this film.

[00:04:39] Because is it, what was the word interminable?

[00:04:43] Interminable.

[00:04:44] That's my word of the day now.

[00:04:46] I've got to try and leave in the conversation.

[00:04:48] Did I find it interminable, meaning endless, meaning it felt like it just went on and on and on and didn't really amount to a lot?

[00:04:56] Yeah, I did.

[00:04:57] I found it to be tedious at times.

[00:05:03] However, am I going to give this a good review?

[00:05:07] Yes, I am.

[00:05:08] Because just like the comment was made that you said, can a interminable tedious and less film also be giving you a good vibe?

[00:05:18] Give you a good vibe.

[00:05:19] And that's what I pulled from this film is this is a mindfulness app come to life and film form.

[00:05:27] That may be on the criteria collection box.

[00:05:31] That's the way I looked at it.

[00:05:32] So yes, I got a lot from this film.

[00:05:35] I did not get a lot from this film.

[00:05:37] I did not get something from this film in the way I normally do get things from films.

[00:05:41] This is a different experience.

[00:05:45] So just to kind of flesh out a little bit more of what we're dealing with here.

[00:05:49] I mean, yeah, you described it pretty well.

[00:05:51] Chris' description pretty much is the film.

[00:05:54] It is following the life of this gentleman who cleans public life.

[00:05:59] He cleans public toilets for a living.

[00:06:02] Lives on his own very simple life, very straightforward life.

[00:06:08] He has his routine.

[00:06:09] We see that routine every day probably put five times, five days I'd say at least.

[00:06:14] Maybe a little more to the point where it gets to the point in the film where when you see him wake up,

[00:06:20] you're like, okay, I know he's going to go do this and he's going to go do this and there's going to be this happening.

[00:06:26] Yeah, we had somebody in our screening last night, Chris.

[00:06:29] I'm not going to announce his name but one of our members when we started the conversation,

[00:06:33] he was the first one to raise his hand and he said what did I just watch for two hours?

[00:06:37] And I'm like that's a great question.

[00:06:39] What did you watch for the last two hours because some people are not going to get anything from this.

[00:06:44] Some people are going to walk away saying I don't get it.

[00:06:48] There was nothing to this. There was no plot.

[00:06:51] There's no action.

[00:06:52] There was no anything really driving anything forward.

[00:06:55] Even slightly subtle subplots that are brought up are just kind of leisurely left out there and they have their own natural way of fading away and that's it.

[00:07:06] And they don't really impact anything else bigger.

[00:07:09] But it is, vibe is a good word.

[00:07:12] It did cause me to think, it did cause me to reflect, it did cause me to ponder my own life which I guess if a film can do that and have those kind of thoughts, that's an accomplishment.

[00:07:27] And that's why I'm going to ultimately say I'm positive on the film but I can absolutely see why this is going to be challenging for a lot of people.

[00:07:38] And there'll be a lot of people that come out of this film and don't get that same result.

[00:07:43] And I get it, I totally get it.

[00:07:46] So yeah, that's where I am with it. Chris, I know this is a film you actually recommended.

[00:07:52] I think at one point in our podcast.

[00:07:54] So I know your high on it or anybody who does not surprise but you kind of regale us a little bit of your why you're why you're high on it.

[00:08:04] But can you also understand people not being high on it or not getting something from it?

[00:08:10] Absolutely. And that's why I tried to lay out kind of my intro like slow cinema which is, I don't know if you consider this I'm not a film scholar obviously I'm just a mere podcaster.

[00:08:21] I don't know if this falls into that realm but I would consider this an example because if you I could see the gentleman who ever said yeah what did I just watch for two hours.

[00:08:31] If you're looking for a real strong script with a lot of things happening in my narrative arc and stuff, you're not going to get it.

[00:08:39] And that could be frustrating because a lot of times it's like well yes I do I am looking for entertainment looking for art but I'm also looking for entertainment and I can see how this film could not entertain people.

[00:08:51] But I think a lot of it has to do with the head spacer in when you go into view it.

[00:08:57] Both times I watch this film I had a crazy day with lots of different things happening and so to get to switch into a different gear and kind of said I was like okay I'm going to watch a movie.

[00:09:09] And then kind of the low key gradual pacing this movie was just like it was like getting a massage or like you said it was like a self help app on a phone brawl to life or whatever meditation app yes all of that.

[00:09:22] I am not I don't I mean I know though like the cliff notes of like Buddhism and things like that and how to like live days simply and things like that you know and I think this film kind of brings to life a lot of that you mention how the gentleman doesn't he like reads books doesn't have a TV doesn't listen to music but only on cassette tape doesn't stream has a phone but it is only for work.

[00:09:51] And he leaves it at his front door he does not carry it into the rest of his very modest meager like a little apartment so it's all this things it's like separating yourself from technology unplugging slowing down going to the park every day and sitting in pretty much the same place and just having lunch and being very peaceful.

[00:10:14] And I found it I was like I found it I was like man that would be so a dicting for me not granted just like with him.

[00:10:22] The film is very gradual but little hiccups happen to him that kind of force him to kind of they kind of upset the apple cart so to speak now they seem pretty minor.

[00:10:33] But when you kind of get in the rhythm of how his days go and he wakes up every morning the same way folds his bed close up the same way then you understand like yeah this is pretty jolting.

[00:10:44] You mention.

[00:10:46] You get little hints that come in of kind of how he got to where he is but they don't they'll do a lot of explaining kind of filter in and after the film finish

[00:10:57] The discussion that I had with the foot candle members that had joined for the movie or come for the movie you know it was interesting the different reads people had on the film because it was very open to interpretation.

[00:11:09] How he got to where he is why he is the way is you know it's just so it was really interesting and that kind of made it very satisfying for me but all that to say like I said.

[00:11:19] I can totally see how some people would find this just frustrating and it's you know it is long too it's not like it's a you know tight 90 minutes or 80 minutes no it's over two hours.

[00:11:33] So and for me I got to see I got to see it a second time.

[00:11:39] I knew the repetition was going to be there but noticing the slight variances in the repetition and when they happened the way like his morning to routine specifically

[00:11:50] one of the things he does I'll give this an example one of the things he does is he has these little plants and he waters them and sprays them okay.

[00:11:58] For the most part that is always done the same way same shot one time when it's varied is when he has an unexpected guest arrived and they shoot it from a reverse angle so it's little nerdy little filmmaking touches like that that if you're really paying attention.

[00:12:14] You can get enjoyment out of it but I could totally see how somebody could be tuned out by that point because you're like okay he's why they it doesn't matter to them that it's a different angle where it's just like he's doing the same thing.

[00:12:25] I'm bored. I get it. I get it. It was not that way for me but I can totally see how people would tune out something else that helped and actually helped a lot for me.

[00:12:38] I mentioned the fellow he seems to really enjoy music and he it's interesting to the actor I really thought he was amazing Koji Yukusho.

[00:12:48] He's it's one of his performances where you know we've lot of performances before where it's kind of a less is more performance and that's totally with this guy for the first couple of minutes.

[00:12:59] When I first watched maybe the first time I wasn't sure that he wasn't mute because he has a coworker that cleans toilets that just is a motor mouth and never shuts up and ask him questions and he never gets responses and like so for what and he actually makes a comment at some point like yeah I don't expect you to respond.

[00:13:18] So I was like okay is this just kind of mute but then you learn like no he just chooses to not say anything.

[00:13:26] He doesn't feel the need to say anything there's no reason for him to say things a lot of times right and so he just very minimalist and listening to others and reacting to others just kind of his superpower.

[00:13:39] But one thing that knows around about way one of the things that.

[00:13:44] Appealed to me is like I said he's very much into music and the music selections they use for the movie help pull it along like every morning when he gets in his car he puts in a cassette tape and you kind of listen to a little bit of the song as he goes driving around yeah.

[00:14:00] And so you have something that's often important we'll mention last scenes in a movie.

[00:14:08] And that's something that you know my letterbox to original letterbox review for this movie was the last scene the movie is kind of a holding shot on his face as Nina some men's feeling good plays.

[00:14:19] And man it was so powerful because you see his face he's he doesn't really ever sing along with it but she can tell sometimes he's grooving a little bit to it or he's kind of nodding his head or sometimes malding the words.

[00:14:31] And with this it's just very still but you see his face go through all these emotions and you're seemingly with the song and like appreciating how she's singing and what she's singing about and man I just found that like the perfect the perfect way to end perfect days so I don't know if that helps.

[00:14:49] No no look I get all of that and it all worked for me generally as well.

[00:14:58] I mean it's the reason you know when people I look at like when people go to it used to be a thing where when the malls were kind of the popular thing you go in small watching it's like you're there.

[00:15:12] You're watching other people you're kind of there to see other people see them going through their motion seeing what what other people are doing and it's like you're not looking for any plot twist you're not like watching to like see.

[00:15:25] Anything it's just you're just kind of there to observe people and I mean that's that's what that's what this film is doing sure.

[00:15:32] And I think yes are there moments where I would have wanted something more yes but I also realize that that's my that's my Hollywood ingrained brain telling myself some things got to happen some things got to be evolving something's going to be developing.

[00:15:51] And it's just kind of coming to a realization probably about halfway through this movie I'm like okay that's not going to happen got you so OK I'm just along for this experience in this ride.

[00:16:01] And it's done really really well I mean it's it's amazing to think for two hours watching somebody go through the routine and go through their daily motions with very little.

[00:16:14] Very little anything moving anything forward and you still found it engaging I mean that's that shows you that this was crafted really really well because you did I mean I found myself drawn to this character I found myself drawn to like wanting to it wasn't really what to learn more about him I don't I never feel in need of one to know more about him I just was enjoying.

[00:16:38] Being a part of his world for two hours and it was it was peaceful for the most part it was you know enjoyable it was yeah it's a different kind of experience I mean I don't even really consider this a movie I mean you people ask it's not it's a it's a document it's a it's a it's a.

[00:16:58] I can see how some people could say that you know to me this is not a movie this is a film and I can also see how somebody could come away thinking this was on I mean except for a couple of touches but somebody could come away thinking this is a documentary yeah totally I think somebody asked me if it was right and I can see how they could fall into that because it you know it just it just seems very slice of life is another so you combine slice of life.

[00:17:28] With slow cinema and you're just like whoa you're not really selling this Chris just sounds sounds boring and it wasn't to me but I think there's.

[00:17:37] Also something it was I am not familiar with Tokyo never been there would mind going there but the scenes you see of Tokyo in most films are the big city sky scraper crowded streets and interesting thing was granted as we talked in the discussion last night after the film I'm sure these bad these

[00:17:58] restaurants public restaurants were hand picked but they were really cool. Oh yeah they were like art installation they were just like a public bathroom they were art installations they were really really cool and so that to me was just fascinating because it was like I was looking at different pieces of art

[00:18:14] because the outside of them would just be it's just really really interesting looking and something that I noticed on you know and it's it's I think the film is challenging is challenging because it's asking people to dial back their attention span and have a really long attention span really try to pick up on little things

[00:18:36] something that I didn't pick up on the first time that I did the second time was one of the really cool restaurants that I like I think it was probably my favorite my favorite restroom was one where it was basically three cubicles and by going into them you would flip a switch and they were transparent transparent colors like yellow orange and blue but you would go in it and you would flip a switch and they would turn opaque so that nobody could see use the restroom which would be a good thing

[00:19:05] so he goes to this place you know several times you're out the film will one of the times he goes he has someone stop him in English the person asked him in English what what's going on how do I work this because she needs to use the restroom yeah

[00:19:19] and he shows her and she's like oh okay and she goes in and she locks the door the second time I saw it I then noticed that you know she goes and she locks it and then you hear her laugh kind of like that's really cool and so that was like a little and then he kind of smiles and reacts to it

[00:19:34] very subtly yeah but it's just like those little things that like bring him joy other times he because you know he's a worker he's out in public people need to run and use the restroom so he steps out

[00:19:47] and when he steps out the different times he'll look up at the sky or look at a piece of metal that's reflecting light and it has a rainbow pattern all these little things

[00:20:00] that to most of us are like okay whatever he's looking at the sky again but it's just it's just picking up on the little the little differences that can be it's kind of like a treasure hunt you know what's going to be unique about this day

[00:20:14] and the fact you know I could see somebody alternately subtitling this movie perfect boring days or just boring days well as I mean it's like you know he

[00:20:25] at the end of the film you think okay in his mind have all of his days been perfect or is he like you know what is he what is he

[00:20:32] thinking about it's kind of like what makes a perfect day he has some sadness he has some joy you learn there's a apparently something

[00:20:41] complicated with his family home family life that he doesn't really have a lot of interaction with his father and with his sister

[00:20:47] yeah but you have little hints of things and kind of open to interpretation oh yeah it's very open but just just fascinating but it does take

[00:20:57] it does take some deep breaths and some kind of getting into the rhythm of the film I mean and just to make it very clear

[00:21:02] the little moment Chris described out the woman going into the bathroom and then uh checkling inside window she would learn

[00:21:08] how to operate the window that is probably the most exciting moment in the first 45 minutes of this film I mean I say that it sounds

[00:21:20] snarking but it's no I'm just saying but that that's true it's this is not a film to be exciting this is not an exciting film

[00:21:27] this is a moment this is a film about small moments and small observations and it's really what it is so but if you're down

[00:21:36] with it and you're in the mood for it and you can look at it as a I mean it's a form of meditation it's a form

[00:21:44] mindfulness it's a reminder of you know hey look uh you know during the first five minutes of the movie my brain is

[00:21:51] still going through everything I'm working on today and need to do later tonight when I get home and things

[00:21:58] all that and after a few minutes this movie it's like okay Alan right maybe you know maybe it's okay

[00:22:04] to just kind of dial back and just not think about all these other superfluous things in your life and just

[00:22:14] hone in and focus on the day-to-day what you're experiencing and the people you're around and it does

[00:22:20] help with that regard so yeah I view this very very positively as an experience

[00:22:27] not I can't really review it as a movie like you would traditionally review because I just don't

[00:22:32] I don't think it's in that it falls in that that category and that's good I mean this has a different

[00:22:37] purpose and I'm fine with that so yeah I thought the cinematography of the film was also really

[00:22:44] really good and that kept me engaged there's the way he has his house set up

[00:22:49] there's they could they did a lot of framing with a stairwell and then with his room that because

[00:22:55] the lights he would have on at night or early in the morning would be purple and they used kind of this

[00:23:00] bot kind of looking like a framing of a bento box or something and that was just very starting on

[00:23:05] one one point thirty three to one so it was like very much a smaller box style framing of the

[00:23:12] aspect and they would return to that at certain moments then one time it got broken because

[00:23:16] of there again that guest and it was just you know little little subtle touches like that um

[00:23:22] other moments that I'll mention one other moment that um kind of and that's at the end of the film

[00:23:28] if people make it through the credits they kind of enough forget the term they used but they

[00:23:32] they kind of explain a term a Japanese term and it's basically says um the playing of shadows with

[00:23:40] wind blowing through leaves and sunlight it's like moments that happen or patterns that happen

[00:23:46] that will never be repeated again. They only happen once right nature yeah and so that's kind of

[00:23:50] so didn't you get the appreciation of okay maybe he is really tuned into that type thing which is

[00:23:55] why he takes photographs sometimes of the same tree you know and you're just like he's just taking

[00:24:00] a picture of the sky again but he appreciates moments in time and patterns and things that the

[00:24:06] rest of us may not yeah not notice so that was cool and then come over come or maybe there we go

[00:24:10] come or review Japanese word for the dancing shadow pattern created by sunlight um shining through

[00:24:16] the rustling leaves of trees yeah so that you know and then you see him take these photos and then

[00:24:22] you see he has this ritual on the weekends and a weekend ritual where he has two boxes

[00:24:29] and you're thinking okay one's trash and one's but no it seems like he has some type of sorting

[00:24:33] system the ones that he feels like are trash he just tears in two and you're kind of wondering

[00:24:38] wonder what his sorting method is what deems to him but you don't get to know you just left

[00:24:44] to kind of wonder and maybe kind of be immediately that's his that's his weekend activity after

[00:24:48] after the laundromat right right the laundromat and he also goes to a bar slash rush for

[00:24:53] a weekend yeah so yeah they're just little and actually something again pretty minor um there's

[00:25:02] an instance where he has an interaction with someone that he doesn't know directly but he knows who

[00:25:08] that person's related to and they have this big conversation and it gets to be kind of heavy

[00:25:13] and then at the end of it it kind of resolves into the two of them playing shadow tag

[00:25:17] yeah which is where you run around and jump on people shadows which I don't know about our listeners

[00:25:22] but I played that as a kid and so then to see these older grown men running around doing that kind

[00:25:27] of as a tension breaker but also kind of as trying to bring a little bit of joy maybe I

[00:25:33] I really like that and that was kind of a you know random yeah but no it but it worked with the

[00:25:38] with the film I mean it it worked um yeah there was a lot of uh there was a lot of interpreting

[00:25:46] the final scene the final moments last night in our discussion okay and uh the good news is I mean

[00:25:52] there's no consensus on what it represents what it means what he's feeling what he's responding to

[00:25:59] any of that so which is good I was fine with that as well so and I think you know I'll come out

[00:26:05] in defense of the for what the film I feel like they're getting my interpretation for what I feel

[00:26:10] like the film was trying to do the runtime was justified and one of the reasons I say that is

[00:26:15] because for the first let's say hour and 15 minutes there are no ripples on the pond for the

[00:26:22] most part it's all very routine things are being done you kind of are you are becoming accustomed

[00:26:27] to his routine and then ripples start one of the things that happens is that his co-worker

[00:26:34] is no longer gonna come to work he's leaving the job and the ripple that happens at first is oh

[00:26:41] he's got a he's got to then take on all this responsibility and do twice as much work and he

[00:26:45] you actually see him he is not happy yeah you see him getting really rough because now he's working

[00:26:50] this really really really long day and he he is not happy about it and then you see something where

[00:26:58] there's an interaction that his employee his fellow employee used to have with a young boy

[00:27:03] that the young boy would always knew his name would kind of come play around with him

[00:27:07] that young boy shows up and he's like where where's where's the other guy he's like he's kind of

[00:27:13] not here and the way that boy is very disappointed and sad and that it's kind of a realization of that

[00:27:18] guy oh okay it's not really it's kind of a reminder to him things are not always all about me

[00:27:24] and kind of the effect that this is having on you so it's that was kind of a good moment that's

[00:27:28] a payoff moment that you don't really expect and then you're like okay interesting so the moments

[00:27:35] are there but I don't know I it's the film's not for everyone but for those people that it is I

[00:27:41] think it has a lot of rewards behind it so Chris I'm just going to lay this out there I did I

[00:27:47] liked this film I found it to be a really positive experience watching I got a lot out of it

[00:27:54] personally it's hard to review it as a movie because I don't really see it as that but

[00:27:59] in the terms that we use movies a lot in our popular culture um but I will say yeah like you

[00:28:06] said it's not going to work for everybody but I totally get it if it doesn't work for everybody

[00:28:11] how are we just gonna say this Chris anytime I bring up the movie money ball which you have deemed

[00:28:16] as boring yes I'm gonna remind you the hey it's uh that's an experiential film as well

[00:28:24] I'm just saying you know it's like not having everything to be you know moving for us a lot

[00:28:30] people just sitting and talking and going to the motions I'm talking endlessly about baseball

[00:28:34] that has an H.E. money balls for you hey I'm just saying we watch two hours of public toilet

[00:28:39] training saying right and I think that's the difference between how one of the differences

[00:28:45] how you and I see both of these films is to me this is art and to me money ball was not

[00:28:51] boring I think my balls are very good it was also popular cinema with Brad Pitt and all this

[00:28:57] big name actor that film against that just because no but I'm saying it's a different it's a

[00:29:01] different type of it's a different type of film it's a different type of movie and to me

[00:29:05] that offered it didn't offer anything didn't offer anything to you personally understood no

[00:29:11] no right and yes there are many people that love so just yeah be mindful of that this like

[00:29:15] I'm not saying it's a great example of how some movies some some piece of art it's a very

[00:29:21] subjective process because half the audience in our crowd last night in the conversation

[00:29:25] did not get this movie did not see the need for it all that and I don't blame them at all for

[00:29:32] towards if you're gonna pigeonhole things and put things into a box I tack towards the arts

[00:29:40] and my side as opposed to the blockbuster side there's nothing wrong with either side

[00:29:47] but yes and so if you're putting if you're dividing the room into perfect days people and

[00:29:54] money ball people yes I will absolutely well see I don't I don't see a lot of difference that's

[00:29:58] the thing is that I'm I don't see a lot of I see a difference in a preference but yeah I can

[00:30:03] see how you're saying they're similar yeah yeah I mean I'm just saying but that's again yeah yeah

[00:30:08] we're saying the same thing we just want to make sure yes we'll make sure that's out in the

[00:30:11] open there so you know yes different movies different styles different approaches absolutely yes

[00:30:16] yeah this is definitely a different approach but yeah yeah I mean look also I remember there was

[00:30:23] a documentary that we brought this role I tell you the one that reminded me the probably the most

[00:30:28] do you remember the there was a documentary we actually brought to our film festival

[00:30:34] God save the child or is that what the name of it um it followed like a family it was like

[00:30:40] yeah yeah I know the one you're referring to yeah and we just we're just following them through

[00:30:44] their days and there's some brief little moments where it's used to be a narrative sound now

[00:30:51] I think it was positioned to be I was right it wasn't it it's a narrative that's right it's

[00:30:55] I call it documentary because again it's shot in its active very much as a documentary but yeah

[00:30:59] you're close kind of less alone to their own devises and kind of yeah and that was them I'm

[00:31:03] that totally worked for me and but yeah looking and like yeah it's the same it was the same thing it's

[00:31:07] the let's follow the experience and see what just watching people you know quote naturally go through

[00:31:14] even though it was all kind of active just like perfect days was right what type of impact people

[00:31:19] that they encounter have on them and what we can glean from that and kind of reflect on our own

[00:31:25] lives so I mean yeah I totally get it yeah yeah yeah work works for some doesn't work for others for

[00:31:30] sure yeah all right well that is perfect days that is the uh vim vinder which I thought was

[00:31:35] interesting as well the fact that you know he's a German filmmaker so first time Japan has allowed

[00:31:41] a non-Japanese film maker to make a film that they then turn in as their entry into the academy awards

[00:31:49] so interesting film for him to be involved with but I think it uh I think it's definitely definitely

[00:31:55] an experience to check out but just carefully listen to the conversation we had and see is this movie

[00:32:01] for you because it it it may or may not be yeah you may find it uh dull but I didn't so good deal

[00:32:09] all right well let's take a quick little break and when we come back we're going to talk Oscar

[00:32:13] winners and kind of give our feedback on the academy awards ceremony from Sunday night

[00:32:18] and then we're also going to hear from Chris on his recommendation uh Chris is it true your

[00:32:24] recommendation is a two hour movie of someone watching windows kind of piggyback like a

[00:32:30] campaign in peace on on perfect days no no no it's uh it has something maybe I mean depending

[00:32:36] on how our Oscar conversation goes something to maybe uh parallel that a little bit okay so good

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[00:33:06] hello and welcome back to foot candle films here on the mesh.tv podcast network Alan Jackson

[00:33:13] Chris fried back with you we had our review of the film perfect days earlier in the show but

[00:33:18] now we're going to turn our attention to uh still something in the past and that was just this past

[00:33:23] Sunday at the time of recording which just a few days ago uh I know Chris we sometimes like to record

[00:33:30] kind of response to the academy awards like pretty quickly after the award ceremony we're we're

[00:33:34] about almost a week out that's okay I think it's still fresh in people's minds and we can

[00:33:39] we can still go through and chat about it but we did have the uh what year was this the academy awards

[00:33:44] this was the I mean how many years 94 something like that it's weird because it's always doing the

[00:33:51] films from the prior year so you don't want to call it the 2024 Oscars because technically this

[00:33:56] will happen next year so but they do call it the 2024 Oscars but it's recognizing 23 films right

[00:34:02] so it's kind of weird weird thing yeah so I think 1927 or eight was the first academy awards

[00:34:10] so we are cranking up in the 90s 30 years there um what does Chris and I got some thoughts and

[00:34:17] observations on the awards and we can go through but I'll just go ahead and just uh hit the

[00:34:23] headlines right up front Barbie won everything yeah right yeah and unfortunately no Barbie almost got

[00:34:29] shut out with the exception of best song with the the song that formed that for uh what's the name

[00:34:36] that song what was I made what was I made for I know this because in our workplace someone above me

[00:34:43] listens to that song at least once a day usually two or three times so I'm very familiar with

[00:34:49] that song yeah just so you're aware so I think it's a I think it's a communal audio system upstairs not

[00:34:57] one individual person's office okay because I too can hear the all the same music so I do think

[00:35:04] uh yes we they do tend to whatever station is what they're playing up there is playing that song

[00:35:08] quite often so yeah spoiler I think that is one of the reasons that's one of the many

[00:35:13] read things that I chose wrong I was convinced that I'm just kin there's no way that's not going

[00:35:20] to win for best song and the performance number even so because they hadn't of course announced

[00:35:26] the winner yet after that performance at the australist was like oh yeah totally totally got this

[00:35:31] in the back and then and then when it went I was like of course that's not going to win it's going to be

[00:35:35] the serious song the one I've heard upstairs from my office it can't be the kind of the having fun

[00:35:42] song the right you know there's been a series of nominated songs that were the more upbeat and fun

[00:35:48] and kind of more the humorous aspect everything is awesome did that one for me yeah right and uh

[00:35:55] blame canada from the south park maybe exactly so you're rattling them off and they're not going to win

[00:35:59] so no it's that I and this is one of the years where I think what I wanted to win

[00:36:04] interfered with what I really thought was going to win yeah and that led to your downfall in the

[00:36:08] years of selections um no the real the real headline I mean Oppenheimer pretty much won everything

[00:36:16] Oppenheimer was expected to win right Oppenheimer won best uh best picture it won best actor it won

[00:36:24] uh best director best supporting actor with Robert Downey Jr. Best original score was Oppenheimer

[00:36:32] a best cinematography was Oppenheimer best film editing was Oppenheimer I mean really it

[00:36:37] it did well it did really well um so and I want to say it's a surprise because I think everybody

[00:36:43] kind of knew Oppenheimer is kind of the favorite going into this sure I think uh Killian Murphy was

[00:36:49] the favorite I mean Paul Gianmani was getting a lot of steam and I think was kind of considered a

[00:36:53] second potential winner for this but right um I don't I didn't really have any doubt on that

[00:37:00] director I think everybody felt like Christopher Nolan this was his year he had never won an Oscar

[00:37:05] for best director so this was it and uh and then of course all the more technical ones you know the

[00:37:13] um the film editing the cinematography I mean that everybody kind of assumed those yeah right um

[00:37:19] anything with Oppenheimer kind of surprised you with all the half the awards they won that night so

[00:37:24] no and uh you know you're not on record as liking Christopher Nolan so I he's somebody that

[00:37:30] I enjoyed finally seeing get it I mean I don't you know how much it really means to him I mean

[00:37:34] he's making movies he's doing what he wants to do does getting a little statue really mean the

[00:37:39] world to him I don't know yeah but um I enjoyed seeing him get an Oscar because I'm like you

[00:37:45] know I like him as a filmmaker always want to see his movies I liked now if by some wild stretch of

[00:37:52] the imagination he had won for tenet as opposed to Oppenheimer I probably feel a little different

[00:37:57] like but the fact that he won for a film that I also appreciated a great deal yeah that that made

[00:38:02] me happy yeah um and I think even on the acting side I mean Killian Murphy I think yes I think

[00:38:09] and he may not have been again my my choice for best actor but I think there's a case to be made

[00:38:15] that yeah he pulled it off so and he's somebody else that um he's he has been a bit player yeah in

[00:38:23] other Nolan films and he you know had that series which I've never seen but uh Piki Blind or so

[00:38:29] yeah he was a bigger role in that but yeah he's just somebody that you've always kind of known

[00:38:34] and to see him get this big role and then to see him get you know notified by or you know

[00:38:39] recognize by the Oscars and then to see him when was you know it's kind of cool so same kind

[00:38:44] of goes for Robert Downey Jr. I mean in a way it's like I I think he was my pick to win that because

[00:38:50] I did really like his performance in Oppenheimer's probably my favorite aspect of the film was his

[00:38:54] okay his performance and he's someone who's also you know not gotten this kind of award and

[00:39:00] acclaimed before so that was good to see I think I felt like that was that worked out pretty well

[00:39:06] um some of the other kind of big awards you know I mean uh Divine Joy Randolph winning best

[00:39:12] supporting actress for the holdovers was pretty much expected by everybody and she won every other

[00:39:17] award it was kind of expected but it was a nice win again it's always nice to see a kind of a first

[00:39:21] time performer well not first time like as an actress but first time up on stage right first

[00:39:28] nominee for our team to win yeah because it's one thing when you see Christopher not which it was

[00:39:33] the first time he'd won but been nominated and everything but somebody who's just so clearly so

[00:39:38] moved or whatever it's always it's always good the other the fourth one on the acting category was

[00:39:44] a little bit of a surprise and that was a best actress with Emma Stone for poor thing it was definitely

[00:39:50] a surprise for me who again chose wrongly I mean a lot of people had killers of the flower moon with

[00:39:56] Lily Gladstone for winning that count me on one of those people I did as well okay um I think yeah

[00:40:02] yeah that's what I missed because I did have that pick I wanted Emma Stone because I actually did think

[00:40:08] I I greatly appreciate Lily Grouse Stone's performance and I mean I think she's a close

[00:40:14] second in my books on the best performance of the year however I think Emma Stone just

[00:40:21] went went for it with that performance and poor things it was really really really great so

[00:40:26] I was happy to see that but it was something that kind of slapped my forehead after they announced it

[00:40:31] and I could kind of think yeah of course it comes down to the leading word yeah in the title

[00:40:37] actress in a leading role versus a supporting role um Lily Gladstone yet was great and when

[00:40:43] our discussion we actually talked you mentioned caught out specifically how she kind of gets

[00:40:48] sideline so if you look if you're just kind of comparing screen time both equally talented actresses

[00:40:53] both giving really good performances but Emma Stone feels like she's in every second of poor things

[00:40:59] and giving this crazy outsides performance so it made sense I'll say this if Lily Grouse Stone had

[00:41:05] been put in the supporting actress category she would have won yeah oh as she would have been

[00:41:10] divine joy Randolph I think pretty clearly yeah a little bit of a missed opportunity there the way

[00:41:15] they they set up that award unfortunately um but yeah I mean outside of really Emma Stone winning for

[00:41:21] poor things was it really any other surprises did you did what was there something some other

[00:41:28] awards that kind of stood out for you Chris that you felt like were surprising or ones that maybe

[00:41:34] didn't go the way we were expecting or any you were just interested in well I'll say that you

[00:41:39] know it's not one that many would people would really you know spend a lot of time trying to predict but

[00:41:44] for me um I was never been happier to be wrong because this is one of the first awards day

[00:41:49] announced and I got it wrong but I was so happy I got it wrong because who ended up winning

[00:41:54] adapted screenplay right in this category you had American fiction Barbie Oppenheimer poor

[00:41:59] thing send of interest I was like well it's a battle it's a barb andheimer battle it's going

[00:42:03] to either be Barbie or Oppenheimer just because I just knew that's the way it was going to go

[00:42:09] and nope completely out of nowhere American fiction won and I really like that film

[00:42:16] and it was the first time the guy I think it was his featured debut and he won for adaptive screenplay

[00:42:21] and he again he was a first-time winner and seemed to be genuinely you know happy and surprised

[00:42:27] so that that was definitely to me I was like whoa that's awesome but I was totally surprised

[00:42:32] that one yeah yeah no I think that was great I mean I was a little surprised also the anatomy

[00:42:39] of a fall one for best original screenplay I mean I knew it had a chance and I think there was

[00:42:42] some good buzz around it for winning but still good to see again so both the screenplay

[00:42:47] award was kind of nice to see two films that were I mean not recognized for anything else or didn't

[00:42:53] win anything else throughout the night but you got to at least see two screenwriters that you know

[00:42:58] are I think once we're gonna be seeing a lot more for in the future sure on both fronts to get

[00:43:04] some acclaim for their films both of them really really good films and it's good to see them up

[00:43:08] on the stage even if it's just for the one award they got so yeah I think if we're going to talk

[00:43:13] about biggest biggest disappointment um even though I picked the category right and I was really

[00:43:19] really happy that this person won but then there was no speech yeah um live action film the wonderful

[00:43:26] story of the short film yeah live action short film Wes Anderson's the wonderful story of Henry

[00:43:31] Sugar which we talked about here on the show yeah that one and I was so over the man I was like so

[00:43:36] happy a cuz I picked it so finally got something right and because like oh this is awesome it's

[00:43:41] like first Oscar win for you know his production design stuff but not something he personally you know

[00:43:47] it's like it was the first Oscar for Wes Anderson for Wes Anderson right and he wasn't there he

[00:43:53] wasn't there now what and it was weird like normally it's like you know they're not here we're

[00:43:58] accepting it so on the behalf but usually there's like a little like kind of sometimes a little bit

[00:44:03] of an explanation it was nope like nope he's not here we're accepting if one is like okay so then in

[00:44:08] my head I'm thinking like what is he like I'm not gonna dignify because they stiff asteroid city

[00:44:12] but then the next day because that was another film that came out that a lot of people liked it didn't

[00:44:16] get any Oscar love at all a lot of people felt kind of got slided but then the next day I think I saw

[00:44:22] announcements were like well no the reason he wasn't there on Sunday for the awards is because

[00:44:27] on Monday the production for his new film was starting yeah so I was like you know what that's

[00:44:33] cool that he's starting a new film because that means I get another Wes Anderson movie yeah so I

[00:44:37] was those kind of like oh okay well that's totally understandable yeah I I I like to think there's

[00:44:43] not any bad blood or reason for not being there I'm I'm a big Wes Anderson fan I've read a lot of

[00:44:48] books about his movies and I've read interviews and I've heard interviews but I think to see a live

[00:44:56] acceptance speech from him although I'm sure he would have had something written or so

[00:44:59] I just would have been interested to see what that would look like yeah me too yeah so now I'll

[00:45:03] just have to wait wait and see what happens in the future with him let's see I was pleasantly

[00:45:10] surprised although I did not pick it either so it's one okay was a best visual effects

[00:45:15] Godzilla minus one winning that that was really cool it's like yeah and I don't think they expected

[00:45:21] to win and they seemed to really yeah that was no it was that's great because again that's one

[00:45:25] thing the film I I did like Godzilla minus one quite a bit I mean I've all the big stomping

[00:45:33] monster movies we've had in a long time and you are kind of sore of big stomping monster I am I

[00:45:38] mean this was a good one and the effects I mean I could see how some I could look at it after

[00:45:43] seeing like slick CGI effects that we see in every other movie and feel like that the the effects

[00:45:48] in Godzilla minus one don't look as sleek but because they felt more they just felt more tactical

[00:45:57] they felt more real they felt more integral to the story I felt like characters were actually

[00:46:01] responding to actually things that the effects were creating that made it work so I do think that

[00:46:06] was a well-warranted award and so if you didn't think I was an art snob from our perfect days

[00:46:12] discussion me bashing money ball then you're definitely gonna think I'm an art snob here because

[00:46:17] yeah the other I like reading for the little guys you know and even though I didn't pick them

[00:46:21] but the other people in this category we have mission impossible yeah we have Napoleon we have

[00:46:28] guardians of the galaxy so then yeah Godzilla minus one like they just seemed out of their mind

[00:46:34] within join and surprise they had little like Godzilla toys update each one of them had a Godzilla

[00:46:39] toy up there with or maybe they were actually models they could have actually been models used in

[00:46:43] the film I don't know but yeah just that was cool to see like a surprise in somebody you know

[00:46:48] the little guy what what film did you pick for this category um I guardians yeah I did too

[00:46:54] just because it's a Disney thing I yeah I I I didn't really see any distinction between the other

[00:47:01] other films and on the end of the count and seriously I couldn't like pick out and say we're effects

[00:47:05] better in this film versus this film or whatever and a lot of times I think of it too which I guess

[00:47:09] I should have thought a little more about it with Godzilla but I think of it as quantity of effect so

[00:47:16] when I'm thinking dead reckoning for the most part yeah I know they have effects in there like the

[00:47:19] train scene but like guardians so much of it I feel like almost every frame oh sure a lot of time

[00:47:25] has some type of it some like well just because of sheer quantity I feel like guardians is gonna

[00:47:29] win it yeah now that was a pleasant happy surprise absolutely so another one I'll call out

[00:47:37] that I got wrong and actually a lot of people got wrong we had our Oscar pool going on that night

[00:47:42] of the Oscar Academy Awards and I mean it was the least correct answer of all the awards did I get

[00:47:49] it right I don't think you did it was best sound no I got that wrong okay best sound and you know

[00:47:56] the more I think about it it makes total perfect sense why this film won sure that sound which was a

[00:48:02] zone of interest yeah and it's one where you know yes I I think when I looked at the category I looked

[00:48:08] at the entries I'm like oh it's going to be a film that has big sound and big sound effects

[00:48:13] and all that and no it's like they went with a film that was sound was subtle sound but the

[00:48:19] sound was so imperative to the film as like when you kind of reflect back on it like oh yeah of course

[00:48:24] that one best sound because we all went for the big sound and no this was going for the subtle

[00:48:30] sound but the subtle sound is what made that film difficult and tough to watch and a

[00:48:37] unnerving in the way it was right and it's just yeah so that totally worked so I got that so

[00:48:43] so did you zone of interest was the winner I don't know it was yeah zone of interest the winner

[00:48:47] I did not get that way and most people in our audience did not get that right I mean it was

[00:48:51] the most incorrect answer of the night on that end so and I will say something there again

[00:48:58] it's what I wanted to win this is what failed me in this category and I'll mention it because it

[00:49:02] also refers to zone of interest one for international feature yeah and I picked my my favorite

[00:49:08] new surprise here uh perfect days and I think what surprised me with that category not that really

[00:49:13] that I thought perfect days was gonna win but I felt like zone of interest was a movie that critics

[00:49:21] like but that not a lot of audiences or general academy academy members would have really like

[00:49:30] glombed on to like you know something like society of the snow which was Netflix which are a lot

[00:49:35] more people would see a lot more people like I thought that was probably more likely than

[00:49:40] so I was kind of sort of like huh but like you say what was so unique about it was what it won

[00:49:47] the other Oscar for sound design yeah well I think zone of interest I mean you and I talked about

[00:49:52] it we were not not big fans of that film um I think though that Jonathan Glasier is very well

[00:49:59] respected in the filmmaking community and he's worked with with you know in previous works he's

[00:50:05] worked with some different actors and sure I think he's well respected I think people you know are

[00:50:10] intentionally looking forward to like what project he's gonna work on next in his project obviously

[00:50:15] had something to say right you know that did have some in there were some level of echoes even he

[00:50:22] brought up in a speech kind of controversial speech yes people have kind of tried to dissect afterwards

[00:50:28] relating it a little bit more to the israel and palestine conflict right now so there was there's

[00:50:34] a lot more to chew on with that film I get even though the film itself didn't work for me as much

[00:50:40] I get why it might have won that award just because it it had the most going on

[00:50:46] with director and with the actual content of the film so yeah yeah yeah um anything else

[00:50:53] surprises for you I mean that's kind of sums it up for me I mean really you know Oppenheimer

[00:50:58] is pretty much Oppenheimer poor things winning a couple of things costume design it won

[00:51:05] makeup hair styling and one production design and it won best actors so really it's Oppenheimer

[00:51:11] poor things to a lesser extent kind of had a good night with four or so awards and then

[00:51:17] everybody else was just kind of picking up one and one award each and that was it so I'll say

[00:51:21] overall to like poor things being walking away with as many awards as it did was kind of

[00:51:28] surprising to me because I thought it was just such a weird like not typical Oscar Voter movie but

[00:51:33] the ones that did I can I can see why um no I would have been the last two things I'll say and they

[00:51:38] both kind of tie in together um the documentary feature film that won yeah 20 days of mario

[00:51:46] like the speech that happened after that was you know one of the memorable ones from the night

[00:51:52] and it tied into the immemorial thing which is you know typically well done and they you

[00:51:59] share the people who passed and they started it off with Navalny and I was like oh yeah

[00:52:06] yeah so I was like oh boy I know like I was like I know what segment they're about to do and

[00:52:10] I thought that was just you know it makes it made that segment memorable of course but just also kind

[00:52:15] of a reminder of like yeah this is this is what's going on that tied with the documentary that

[00:52:20] won for the best feature I was like yeah so it's memorable yeah well there's something else

[00:52:27] I thought that you said you had two things well that that was actually the winner of the documented

[00:52:30] feature and in the immemorial segment with Navalny time back which that's Russia not Ukraine but

[00:52:36] the whole spider woven things going on there absolutely well I will say this I thought the ceremony

[00:52:42] was really good oh my gosh yes and how can we let this live by it started an hour early

[00:52:48] started an hour early and it still ran relatively short compared to other ones too so we were out

[00:52:54] of there by 10 15 yeah it took about our hours three hours and 15 minutes which is great I um

[00:53:01] and I just thought I thought everything was tight I thought it was entertaining I think it had a

[00:53:06] couple fun little moments but they weren't overdone they weren't trying to go for laughs the whole time

[00:53:11] I mean um there were no superfluous things that just were thrown in to add meat and time to it

[00:53:18] I mean really it's a pretty lame ceremony and I liked it I thought it was probably the best ceremony

[00:53:23] I've seen in quite a long time yeah I'm so very happy with that I agree and uh think it worked out

[00:53:28] really well all right well that was the Academy Awards again congratulations to Oppenheimer we sent

[00:53:35] our congratulations card in I don't know if I'm sure we'll be here from him Sam I'm sure but we

[00:53:40] send our thing our congrats um for the kind of sweeping so many of the awards at this year's

[00:53:46] uh Academy Awards and uh of course we'll now start turning our eyes to films coming out later this

[00:53:52] year that will be contending for the awards next spring so drive away dolls one of them

[00:53:57] yeah no I joke Chris this is gonna start a campaign for drive away dolls to be nominated every

[00:54:05] potential category could be right right now it's hilarious let's go ahead make it let's just

[00:54:14] go and get this down I mean if I'm just gonna go and say if drive away dolls is nominated for anything

[00:54:20] at the end of the year okay okay um we need to have like some sort of some sort of way during

[00:54:26] place okay I don't think it will be either I think it's just be hilarious if it's sure so

[00:54:32] all right Chris let's wrap this show up with a recommendation this is where uh you know it's kind

[00:54:38] of just kind of punted over to you Chris honestly because we tried to do this like once every few

[00:54:42] episodes where you and I would both bring a recommendation to the to the to the show and honestly I

[00:54:48] just I suck at this I it's just I I don't watch enough films to really feel like I'm

[00:54:55] guiding me a recommend I feel like I've recommended all the films I like at this point okay on

[00:54:59] the show we've done how many episodes of the show oh a lot I don't know how many we've it's a few

[00:55:05] hundred right it's a few hundred I don't think we've hit 500 yet but I'm not sure I'm not sure

[00:55:10] maybe 300 maybe well I have to get our intern on that anyway I have recommended all the films I like

[00:55:16] so if I see a film I like I will bring you as a recommendation but uh normally we are reviewing

[00:55:22] those films so you know you though you uh you are much more productive on the film viewing front

[00:55:28] and you typically come across some really great films and I have some to recommend for us so

[00:55:33] I'm turning over to you what Chris do you have to recommend for us this episode uh to check out okay

[00:55:39] I just recently caught up with a film called Cold Souls by director Sophie Barthas which I'm not

[00:55:46] familiar with her work at all don't believe this is her first film um it stars one Paul Gianmati

[00:55:53] and let me say if you like Paul Gianmati then you might like this film specifically if you are not

[00:56:01] one of those which I understand why people would attract from for example his performance in the

[00:56:06] whole diverse if you say that's Paul Gianmati playing Paul Gianmati the death if you if you are one

[00:56:12] of those which I understand I like this performance in there you and I both like the film but if you're

[00:56:16] one of those that doesn't much care for that stick that he does let's say then you're definitely not

[00:56:22] going to want to watch Cold Souls because in this Paul Gianmati plays Paul Gianmati let me tell you

[00:56:28] a little bit about the the byline here Paul is agonizing over his interpretation of Uncle Vania

[00:56:34] and paralyzed by anxiety stumbles upon a solution via a New Yorker article about a high tech company

[00:56:41] promising to alleviate suffering by extracting Souls he enlists their service only to discover that

[00:56:48] his soul is the shape and size of a chickpea so then there's some it's kind of a not as complicated

[00:56:58] more streamlined bare bones kind of being John Malkovich type I think yeah and you would be surprised

[00:57:05] yeah what's the dude's name who does all being John Malkovich and adaptation Charlie Kaufman

[00:57:11] yeah he has nothing to do with any of this this came out in 2009 but it's you could say it basically

[00:57:17] rips off a lot of ideas from that but I'd never heard of this film and I just stumbled across it

[00:57:23] and I like Paul Gianmati and I did not know going in I guess I ruined it for our listeners I didn't

[00:57:28] know going in that he was playing himself and the more these are like wait a second is this but

[00:57:33] so it's kind of I'm sure an alternate version of Paul Gianmati just like being John Malkovich

[00:57:39] they're playing like a different you know or like in the unbearable weight of massive talent

[00:57:46] and because Cage was doing all to see an adversion for himself yeah yeah playing off of

[00:57:52] public perception of it right so this this is not as reaching it doesn't stretch itself as far

[00:57:59] this is a much more simplistic film it's 100 minutes you know but I found it entertaining enough

[00:58:06] and I like Paul Gianmati Emily Watson plays his wife David Strathurne plays like the head of

[00:58:14] this company that's doing the soul thing and he gives a really and it's not something I've ever seen

[00:58:20] David Strathurne last time I saw him I think was in no madland where he played oh yeah and so you

[00:58:24] know that that's more of a typical kind of role for this not typical I mean he's getting to do

[00:58:29] comedy which I don't think I'd ever really seen David and it's it's not Will Ferrell laugh out

[00:58:35] about it's more of like deadpan you know Paul Gianmati type humor but I still enjoyed it and

[00:58:40] something that I also found kind of cool was I'm not sure if it was his first role on screen but when

[00:58:46] I saw him I was like whoa that's that guy this must be a really because he looks completely different

[00:58:52] because this is back in 2009 Michael Stoolberg plays a small the studio bar still bars got another

[00:58:59] cameo in the movie it just kind of steals it and he was really and he's it's really short but just

[00:59:04] I was like whoa that's that guy and he kind of play yeah and it was just really cool seeing somebody

[00:59:09] that far back in their career and you know Paul Gianmati had a lot more hair and cold souls because

[00:59:14] it was 2009 so anyways it's it's one I can easily recommend it's playing on hoopla and also

[00:59:20] peacock if you subscribe to that service hoopla of course is the whole library service thing

[00:59:25] but I recommend we need to work out a we need to work out some sort of sponsorship deal with hoopla

[00:59:31] we should we should need to hoopla needs to jump on the foot candle ban wagon here because you

[00:59:37] you you definitely which is great I think it's awesome I think I don't think enough people

[00:59:41] and realize the resources they can get for their public library subscription all right

[00:59:46] seriousness I really do so I'm glad you keep bringing it up as an option for people because

[00:59:50] this will be a teaser there's another one that I'll be bringing up probably another

[00:59:54] other who will another who will tell them that I got to see through them which they're good and it's

[00:59:59] free let me ask you don't you know you don't use an Apple TV do you or do you have I have an Apple TV

[01:00:05] but I do not watch stuff on it I watch like your normal things like Hulu and his prime

[01:00:13] but who while you watch I've just usually watch my laptop but I think you can get I think there's

[01:00:18] an Apple TV app for it because that's what I need that's something missing I need to get

[01:00:22] okay I think I mean I would assume they're probably I mean there's an app promised everything yeah

[01:00:27] so yeah I should check that out because actually good point my wife a lot of times

[01:00:33] her roll her eyes when I say oh this much me she's like okay great and then I'll be like yeah

[01:00:38] but we need to watch on my laptop should kind of get a finger that out that yeah there's

[01:00:44] probably it's a hoopla app so yeah yeah um now that's yeah I'll deal with that outside the show

[01:00:52] or throw it on the intern make them do something yeah it feels like hoopla should have an

[01:00:56] Apple TV app and I'm not finding off hand if they are but anyway we'll check into that all right good

[01:01:01] deal so that is dead souls recommendation cold cold souls whenever I get dead souls

[01:01:08] that might be hard there probably is seems like there would be seems like that's a

[01:01:11] a cold souls cold souls yeah because they put them in storage right makes for us okay my bad cold

[01:01:17] souls with Paul Giamani yes and that is available on hoopla and where was the other

[01:01:22] little peacock yeah so the way to see it as well as of course renting it just you know on any

[01:01:28] TV store online as well all right Chris why I think we are done then so we had our review

[01:01:35] of perfect days we talked about ask Academy Award winners and our thoughts and opinions on those

[01:01:41] and then you gave the recommendation of cold souls uh for this episode so Chris a lot of

[01:01:48] lot opportunities for people to dialogue with us a lot of feedback did you enjoy perfect days

[01:01:54] did you get as much out of it as Chris fry into electric stunt me dead or uh or not and we

[01:02:00] certainly open to any and all feedback we'd love to hear from you Chris how can somebody

[01:02:05] engage us in conversation about any of these topics if you would like to do that and tell me why

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[01:02:21] why you don't have to be a baseball fan to appreciate money ball and you should have

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