Furiosa

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[00:01:06] We're at a little delayed and not putting out one this past week as much.

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[00:01:18] We do have a one film will be reviewing today on the show and it is the latest

[00:01:24] in the Mad Max saga.

[00:01:26] It is Furiosa, a Max saga directed by George Miller and starring

[00:01:31] Anniotaylor Joy and Chris Hemsworth.

[00:01:34] We're going to be reviewing that film.

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[00:02:16] Here we go with our first review, our only review of the film, Furiosa.

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[00:02:50] When I was getting ready to head to the multiplex for my screening of Furiosa

[00:03:12] colon and mad maxaga, my wife asked me if I remembered much of the previous film

[00:03:17] 2015's Magmax colon Fury Road.

[00:03:21] Well, I admitted to vague memories of a film in which Ram Shackle vehicle

[00:03:26] was driven across the desert, things blew up and that people were always dirty.

[00:03:31] With this prequel prior knowledge of the previous films are seemingly unnecessary

[00:03:36] which for me was a plus as the title would imply, it focuses on the character of Furiosa

[00:03:43] and her history.

[00:03:44] This time out Furiosa is played by Anjatea Lujoy and Chris Hemsworth

[00:03:48] stars as Dementus, anemesis for both Furiosa as well as the big body of Fury Road in Morton, Joe.

[00:03:56] What was this film's impact on you, Alan?

[00:03:59] Do you think in 10 years you'll be able to give any more of a plot summary to someone

[00:04:03] than Ram Shackle vehicles driven across the desert, things blew up, and people were always dirty?

[00:04:09] No, I think you sounded pretty good.

[00:04:11] I think that's going to be my recollection.

[00:04:15] Like, I'll be the first to admit this is not my kind of film.

[00:04:22] It just isn't.

[00:04:24] And I can go through the various reasons but I don't want that to be an indictment of the film

[00:04:29] because here's a thing.

[00:04:31] A lot of people really liked Mad Max Fury Road.

[00:04:35] I thought Mad Max Fury Road was good and I marveled at it from a technical standpoint,

[00:04:42] just the production of it, the production aspects that you could just tell the craft put into making

[00:04:48] that film work.

[00:04:49] But as a film, it left me as just a, well that was a fun little thrill ride for a couple of hours

[00:04:56] by didn't get anything else out of it.

[00:04:58] Not when you revisit it.

[00:05:00] I actually haven't known, haven't revisited it.

[00:05:03] Fury O's of falls very, very cleanly in that exact same camp for me.

[00:05:08] I know that the film tries to do things a little different than Ferry Road but at the end of the day

[00:05:15] it's still the same movie in my mind.

[00:05:19] In my perspective, in my perspective.

[00:05:21] I understand there's a bit more of a story with this one where Mad Max Fury Road

[00:05:26] I don't really recall much of a story at all.

[00:05:28] It's pretty much just a get to from point A to point B and people are chasing and finding

[00:05:33] the get there.

[00:05:34] Backtrack back to point A.

[00:05:35] Right exactly.

[00:05:36] Fury O said, there is, you know, passage of time there's a story.

[00:05:41] There's characters you meet in encounter along the way but at the end of the day it still

[00:05:46] is a, we have to get somewhere and or we have to stop somebody from getting somewhere

[00:05:52] and that's kind of how it all just ends up.

[00:05:56] Technically speaking it is still fairly impressive.

[00:06:00] Although I do not think it is that's impressive as Fury Road.

[00:06:03] Mainly because I feel like this film uses or felt like it used CGI more than what I recall

[00:06:10] at being in Fury Road.

[00:06:11] Fury Road always really impressed the practical nature of the production.

[00:06:16] Here I definitely saw more computer animation than I remembered seeing in Fury Road.

[00:06:25] So I'm a little less enamored by the by the production than I was Fury Road.

[00:06:31] But it still is quite a marvelous feat.

[00:06:33] I mean some of the, I will say some of the action sequences are still pretty darn good

[00:06:39] and they're exciting and fun.

[00:06:41] But at the end of the day I didn't feel like there was much more beyond that

[00:06:45] to the film outside of the production, outside of, you know, the pacing of some of these

[00:06:50] more interesting action scenes.

[00:06:53] It's just not my kind of movie.

[00:06:55] So I'm just going to leave it at that crisp, picking up a little bit of tones and maybe

[00:06:59] run the same page but tell me if I'm right with that.

[00:07:01] Yeah I think I think you and I are on the same page.

[00:07:05] You know, I had seen the original Mill Gibson Road Warrior Bad Max sounds long time ago

[00:07:12] and I'd seen each one of them like once.

[00:07:14] It totally faded for my memory, had not revisited them.

[00:07:17] Outcomes Fury Road and critics audiences just were whipped into a frenzy

[00:07:22] and said how great it was.

[00:07:24] And I thought it was okay, you know?

[00:07:27] But there again like you is all about the spectacle and not necessarily about the story.

[00:07:31] Looking back, I think had to have the check in, you know, letter box.

[00:07:35] I think I gave it more stars than I probably should have.

[00:07:38] I think it may have just been kind of like an overwhelming of like wow what an achievement

[00:07:42] as far as like filmmaking is opposed to how good I actually thought the film itself was.

[00:07:47] I will say, I think Fury is better than Fury Road.

[00:07:53] Oh, my reasoning is because of the story.

[00:07:57] If I had never seen Fury Road, I think I would like this film a little better.

[00:08:04] Because yes, some of the long sequences of fighting in the desert and cars driving.

[00:08:09] Yes, that was done in Fury Road but you're like oh,

[00:08:11] this is different or if I've forgotten what road warrior and Mad Max had in the store for me.

[00:08:15] So this looks really like different and impressive.

[00:08:18] The imagery from that film of a guy playing guitar and like the, okay, they kind of,

[00:08:23] but you realize it's in the same time period roughly so you could say like well that would still be going on.

[00:08:29] But still images that were indelible from the first film now and this one we're like,

[00:08:34] oh, they're just kind of hardening back.

[00:08:36] But still, I thought it was impressive.

[00:08:38] I like the story better in this one and even though I mentioned Morton Joe which names overall in George Miller's films are just kind of ridiculous.

[00:08:48] Fun and I think he acknowledges the fact that they were ridiculous.

[00:08:51] I mean we have a guy called erectus in this and scrotus.

[00:08:55] So it's like okay, yeah.

[00:08:56] But I'm all that to say like,

[00:08:59] I like this film better because of the story, because of following on New Taylor George character Furious.

[00:09:06] And I have to say, and more than Joe, well,

[00:09:11] an impressive presence to look at other than that kind of leaves you a little flat,

[00:09:16] whereas Chris Hemsworth playing Dementus.

[00:09:19] I like Chris Hemsworth anyway.

[00:09:21] And I'd like to see him as a villain, which he clearly was in this.

[00:09:27] And he seems like he had a job and it was to choose scenery, and he came hungry.

[00:09:34] And it worked for me and actually not because of

[00:09:37] New Taylor George character doesn't do a lot of talking.

[00:09:41] She's fascinating to look at and you like her,

[00:09:44] but when she's not on screen with him's worth,

[00:09:47] it's like she isn't having enough to play off of so the movie kind of drag.

[00:09:51] I kept waiting for the bad guy to be there so she would have somebody to react to that was interesting.

[00:09:57] Yeah, well, interesting to keep where because there is somebody else they introduced for her to have as a colleague,

[00:10:05] as a partner kind of midway through the film, Tom Burke plays,

[00:10:09] Praetorian Jack or just Jack.

[00:10:12] Yes, these names.

[00:10:13] They know what they're doing with the names and it's all about the vibe they're trying to set up with this film.

[00:10:20] Right.

[00:10:22] And you know, it was nice to have somebody else there for her to kind of bounce off of.

[00:10:26] But I mean he wasn't the most terribly interesting character to begin with so I agree with you on Chris Semperoth.

[00:10:32] I really think I enjoyed all the moments with him,

[00:10:35] both on scene playing to me, to maintain this.

[00:10:38] And it looked, I think, in your Taylor, Joy and a Taylor Joy was good for the role she was given to play,

[00:10:45] which is a role of luck.

[00:10:46] You're going to just, you're going to be your, your meant to be furious.

[00:10:51] You are going to react to a lot of things your face is going to tell speak volumes,

[00:10:56] but you're not going to say a whole lot.

[00:10:58] And it's like okay, she did it.

[00:11:00] That was her assignment and I think she succeeded with it.

[00:11:04] But yeah, I mean, I do like I did like the Dimitris as a villain character.

[00:11:10] I thought it was interesting and I did find myself a little more drawn to those moments.

[00:11:14] There's actually a ending sequence with the two main characters.

[00:11:21] Yes, that I thought was good because it was different.

[00:11:26] And you know, it was not what I would have expected as a finale for this film.

[00:11:33] So that was nice surprise there.

[00:11:35] So again, and it really did come down to the acting for him's worth to kind of play in that scene.

[00:11:39] So it was good.

[00:11:40] And I think it kind of referencing where the film starts out with this like Eden and this like paradise with trees,

[00:11:48] and anything.

[00:11:49] And like the whole film, she has a seat of, I guess it's an apple or a huge or something.

[00:11:54] I guess anyway, she keeps this seat.

[00:11:56] Well, I guess it would have to be a peach because it's bigger.

[00:11:58] It's like a pit.

[00:11:59] And where is that?

[00:12:00] Yeah.

[00:12:01] Anyways, she keeps that weather and you see it at different times in the film.

[00:12:04] And then for it to kind of come back around, you're like, okay.

[00:12:07] I think they're again, that's what made me leave the theater thinking.

[00:12:10] Okay, if I had to pick one film that I could dispose of the other one like keep,

[00:12:16] I would keep Furious because of the way it ended.

[00:12:19] And I thought that was kind of an interesting way to kind of bring everything together.

[00:12:23] I'll say too, which I don't think I've ever seen done in quite this way.

[00:12:29] But I think it's, I think we kind of get the ending and while the credits are playing,

[00:12:34] I have this, or maybe it's right before the credits.

[00:12:36] So we have an ending but then we kind of have this montage of scenes that kind of shows you leading into Mad Max Fury Road.

[00:12:47] And interesting that I've never seen one quite like a prequel or see ever like really build that intentional to wear.

[00:12:53] Yeah.

[00:12:54] It was like in using some of the same care like they show Charlottes Thayer and as her and you're like, okay.

[00:12:59] And it's so, it was, I don't know, thought it was interesting.

[00:13:03] Well, I think the film did a good job like you said in the setup that it did not require viewing of the other films as much to make this work.

[00:13:15] Although it, yeah, I think sufficiently rewards those who are big fans of the films or by the other films for sure.

[00:13:24] And then like you said in the ending credits, it does kind of lean pretty heavy into it like yep, okay, this is all going to be going to hear you know where this is going type of thing.

[00:13:32] Which I kind of wonder, you and I haven't directly poked fun on it but by the fact that we call these movies, the title, the Cole and what are kind of right.

[00:13:41] You know, I wonder if that piece kind of credits tie back piece that pushes it forward if you're red.

[00:13:48] I wonder how much of that was George Miller, the director, writer and director and how much of that was the studio.

[00:13:55] I also wonder how much of the title is George Miller and how much of that's the studio because really, I mean, grand 2015 we're now in 2024 so almost 10 years.

[00:14:08] But I don't think anybody who would see the poster here would think that this was anything other than a mad max movie but I think mad max I think it's stupid.

[00:14:17] I don't know why they just didn't leave it furious.

[00:14:20] I'm just very red, okay it'd been a long time gap. You kind of need to remind people but like I wonder how much of that was George Miller and how much of that was studio.

[00:14:29] I don't know. I don't understand why I mean they kept the naming mechanism, they had mad max then you had the road warrior which I know the road that was kind of up.

[00:14:38] They just kind of were opening up to a broader market. It was a bigger movie the road warrior when it came out.

[00:14:44] But then they did mad max beyond Thunderdome and we got mad max fury road. So I don't understand why it's not mad max buriosa.

[00:14:53] But I'm all about consistency.

[00:14:56] But I mean, he's on mad max on this film.

[00:14:59] True but so just leave it furious.

[00:15:01] Yeah, okay. It could have just been furious. You're right.

[00:15:05] But I mean whatever.

[00:15:07] I wonder if that was his thing or yeah.

[00:15:10] It's a good question. I don't know.

[00:15:12] You know, like this film is still thrilling in parts.

[00:15:18] I still think it's impressive to watch and to see and to understand the grandeur of what's been put together.

[00:15:25] I did find myself bored at a lot of times just kind of the repetiveness of things and the I mean it's a long movie as well.

[00:15:36] I definitely think that was probably too long.

[00:15:39] There were a couple of action sequences that did break away from the norm a bit enough to kind of real my attention back in.

[00:15:48] One of them involves a big chasing, but there's people on like parachutes and flying new apparatus.

[00:15:57] Yes, instead of like fury road from my recollection.

[00:16:01] I did have dirty people driving across the desert.

[00:16:03] Check of vehicles, but this one took that and then added like you're saying like aerial attacks.

[00:16:08] We don't remember that for instance.

[00:16:10] I don't even know.

[00:16:11] I was too weak and specifically one vehicle which I think this guy has a name.

[00:16:15] I think they give the driver of this a name something octopus or whatever.

[00:16:19] Yeah, but he drives this via flying. Yes, he's called just the octoboss.

[00:16:25] Okay, so it couldn't be just be. But he was his flying contraption has like this long trailing kite that's kind of black and that's black tentacles.

[00:16:35] So that was like in George Miller knows how to do visuals.

[00:16:39] And so yeah, I thought that was cool actually and.

[00:16:43] Okay, I think there is a little bit of storytelling too which in the first film strictly visuals, the shooting off of the red flares and this film that seems to be like red flares.

[00:16:54] I mean one thing at one point there's a green flares.

[00:16:57] It's okay, it's more than just there's a little bit more of like signaling or they kind of show you that there's a little bit more of a purpose other than just things look cool.

[00:17:05] There was a bit more world building.

[00:17:07] I felt like here in this in this film than even what we got in Fury Road and that they were taking a little more time to explain or show.

[00:17:15] The different factions that we're dealing with and kind of how they are interacting and some of the the methods for communication.

[00:17:23] And what these things signaled.

[00:17:25] Yeah, I think there was a little bit more given to that.

[00:17:28] The other there's another sequence that takes place at the.

[00:17:32] Gun factory bullet factory bullet.

[00:17:35] Bullet town bullet bill.

[00:17:37] Yeah, I think it's bullet town but it's where I mean people actually get off the vehicles and there's like you know some gunfire gunplay and there's a giant tower in the middle that's.

[00:17:50] Demetri or was this.

[00:17:52] Demetri.

[00:17:53] Demetri.

[00:17:54] Demetri.

[00:17:55] Demetri.

[00:17:57] Demetri.

[00:17:58] That was also a pretty good sequence too just because again I kind of found myself perking up a little bit when I found things that were a little different.

[00:18:01] Yes, and not going to be just the same okay driving down the desert people are crawling in and out of the cars and trying to kick each other out of the cars and you know.

[00:18:10] Yes, I look it's it's still fun but it did become a little monotonous to an abyss.

[00:18:16] I'm not sure if you're going to be a little bit more in the future.

[00:18:19] So how sad or excited to putting a whether or not you think you know buzz has been that maybe it won't get made but it'll make you happy because supposedly the next installment was going to be Mad Max colon the wasteland.

[00:18:32] That was going to be a film that I guess takes place after Fury Road.

[00:18:37] Sure.

[00:18:38] So, do you would you be excited to go see that sequel?

[00:18:41] I think Tom Hardy is supposed to come back.

[00:18:43] The whole movie is already taking place in the wasteland like the last two.

[00:18:48] So it sounds like it's going to look and feel exactly the same.

[00:18:52] I'm not hearing anything that makes me feel differently about it.

[00:18:55] So can't say I'm terribly excited.

[00:18:57] I was moderately looking forward to Fury Oso when it came out just because I'm like okay.

[00:19:01] Let's take I hope it's taking the things I did like from Fury Road.

[00:19:06] I'm not sure if you're going to be adding a story adding different characters adding different settings different environments and it.

[00:19:14] It halfway got there for me.

[00:19:16] I mean, I did some of those things more for me but you and I are still here.

[00:19:20] Yeah, but but it still didn't quite give me an experience.

[00:19:23] I was I guess I was kind of hoping for.

[00:19:25] To give me what I was fearful I was going to be expecting which was very very similar.

[00:19:30] Again, you could be playing these two movies side by side Matt Fury Road and Fury Oso.

[00:19:34] In flipping between different scenes between the two and it probably be very hard to know which one you're watching.

[00:19:41] Unless you saw what character was what actress was playing Fury Oso that would be the sign of oh okay I know which movie I'm watching now.

[00:19:48] Gotcha that that wasn't what I wanted.

[00:19:50] I wanted something a little bit different but look I'm still going to go out and say that fans of Fury Road are going to get more of it here.

[00:19:59] Which they were a lot of fans.

[00:20:02] Yeah, I got this over made.

[00:20:03] I mean it was an Oscar nominated film.

[00:20:05] I mean you know it has a lot of fans and a lot of people really respect that film.

[00:20:10] This is definitely more of that.

[00:20:12] I think for people like you and I Chris that weren't.

[00:20:16] Gaga over over Fury Road.

[00:20:20] This I mean you found a little bit more to appreciate here than you did for your road.

[00:20:24] I feel about the same as I did with Fury Road.

[00:20:27] I'm not where this this did not quite meet my needs for something different in the action and action scenes department.

[00:20:38] It did make up for it with a bit more story and a bit more characterization and a little more of an interesting plot.

[00:20:45] So it it was held my attention about the same as that's Fury Road did.

[00:20:51] I think it's fair to say you these are you know we're not the target audience for these films or at least this is not the kind of film that we find ourselves clamoring for and looking forward to as much.

[00:21:02] So a throwback to our previous review or one of our previous reviews on the prior episode of the fall guy.

[00:21:09] So my theory on that was that people went action sequences but wanted some of the like the violence in the the gore you know that's what they were going.

[00:21:17] So it makes me curious this film has that like has actions is but has like the you know the actual violence and like you know the very.

[00:21:28] You know intentional rough you know it's it's a hard hour.

[00:21:34] And then that people haven't come out and or haven't come out as in droists it's curious to me like what are people looking forward to people well what do people want well the fact that the.

[00:21:46] are field animated movie made as much money as Furio said did an opening weekend so people want children's entertainment.

[00:21:56] Well you could say that but then there's been a lot of the last year family films and all that that did not do well either so I don't know audiences are very fickle right now I think.

[00:22:05] Here's the thing is that Fury Road when it came out didn't make a lot of money.

[00:22:09] Okay I mean it was not one of the top 10 grossing films of the year when it came out.

[00:22:14] I did a lot of award attention.

[00:22:16] Okay now I think people like that you and I follow online in the critical film community were big in Gaga over it.

[00:22:25] It wasn't a huge hit actually it made about as much money opening weekend as Furio said did okay so just kind of put in perspective.

[00:22:34] I think people were expecting this movie to be like so much bigger I'm like no it's not really going to be because.

[00:22:40] Fury Road wasn't this huge blockbuster hit and this is a a rated arm movie very hard or coming out in the summertime.

[00:22:50] You know it was not a sure fire bet to just be this big money maker.

[00:22:56] The question is will make enough money for them to keep going with more movies.

[00:23:00] I don't know that I couldn't tell you right now it's going to depend on how it shares for the next few weeks if it.

[00:23:06] Drops off pretty quick or if it stays around or if it gets some more critical or possibly a word buzz from a production standpoint it's not going to get a best picture nomination like Fury Road did.

[00:23:17] But it could get some for production design it could get some nominations for the work did get a best picture.

[00:23:24] Wow yeah I forgot that yeah there was kind of crazy when it did so yeah.

[00:23:30] So you know if you're a somed Max saga I think it's a I think it is a film we're checking out if that is a film that you are drawn to type of film you're drawn to and if you're a fan of Fury Road you're going to find more of it to enjoy here.

[00:23:46] But I just wasn't for me sure after about an hour hour 15 I felt like okay.

[00:23:56] I think I've seen this film I think I understand what's happening here.

[00:24:00] I think you really could drop me to the last 15 minutes of the film and it would it would work for me and that would be okay and satisfied with that but.

[00:24:09] Now it had another hour just what kind of plot along and do the same things little interspersed moments of greatness kind of just stitched together with passages of more of the same so yeah.

[00:24:22] I think I'm getting on the same page may appreciate a little bit more just because of the try to do a little bit more story wise.

[00:24:29] Sure overall yeah same we will call our Chris and forth I do think he was really good lot of fun in there so let's go see correct if I'm wrong.

[00:24:39] Did have a little bit of like prosthetics going on with his nose yep okay why.

[00:24:46] Why why was why is a why were their characters called as the greatest and you know.

[00:24:51] I don't think I could figure is he just it was like he wanted to do it to make himself less hands or he just it was like okay I'm going to instead have a lot of that.

[00:25:00] I want to have like you know I want to play this villain that looks you know I want to be less less attractive and I want to be a little more a little more cartoonish as a character which.

[00:25:10] I think that pulled it off so okay well that is Furiosa Mad Max saga we're both kind of mixed on it you know just a there's things to appreciate things to enjoy.

[00:25:21] But overall I think we're just it's not our film so.

[00:25:27] And also say I thought the grand in today it's parting there doesn't really you know affect it on one way or the other but I was impressed by it.

[00:25:36] The gentleman who plays a Morton Joe in the original film Fury Road had passed away and so they had somebody playing Morton and to me like bodyweight grand you know with the wig and everything but like I couldn't tell any different.

[00:25:50] I was actually kind of neat that they you were able to carry the character and but I mean granted I guess how hard is it when he was so ridiculously.

[00:25:56] But I thought I was I still thought it was interesting sure.

[00:26:00] No that's good.

[00:26:01] Okay well that's our review so I'll tell you what this do Chris is let's take a very, very quick break we come back we got a couple of news items a trailer to share and your recommendation so all that's coming up on foot candle films here in just a moment.

[00:26:19] Welcome back to foot candle films here on the mesh dot TV podcast network Chris and I had our review of Furiosa Mad Max saga earlier in the show.

[00:26:29] But now we're going to move on to talking about some movie news we still need a little bumper of some sort like I don't know I'm just picturing like I wanted to use paper boys been like extra.

[00:26:43] I don't know the news type of thing we need something like that to kind of introduce news because we do news about every time but.

[00:26:50] We're not really having a way to distinguish that from the show right.

[00:26:54] We need our intern crack intern team to get right on that help us to make that.

[00:26:58] I'm a single for news and a jingle for recommendation so yeah jingle for and I'm even say it's Chris is recommendations we need a jingle for Chris is recommendation because I am not reliable enough to provide a recommendation on our on a regular basis.

[00:27:12] I'm not sure if you're new.

[00:27:13] Whatever news paper typewriter clapping clocking news keys whatever jingle thing we've got here okay.

[00:27:19] typewriters because those are yeah everyone knows what those are now.

[00:27:23] Those are coming back.

[00:27:24] Yes, yes, yes.

[00:27:25] All right Chris have got a couple of news items here two projects that are underway.

[00:27:32] In production that I'm fascinated with both of them for various reasons both of them have interesting directors.

[00:27:39] Both of them are biopics.

[00:27:43] Oh dear.

[00:27:44] The biopics of interesting people.

[00:27:49] And starring interesting people.

[00:27:53] Interesting people.

[00:27:54] Well, just starring interesting people in one of them now the other one we don't know who's starring it yet but anyway well we'll get to that.

[00:28:00] Let's start with this one.

[00:28:03] There's a film being made by a 24.

[00:28:06] Okay, well that's usually a directed by Benny Saffty.

[00:28:11] Okay, not the safety brothers right just want to just Benny Benny Saffty.

[00:28:16] You know I feel bad for the other saffty because Benny seems to be the more.

[00:28:21] Well he's also an actor and he's been some.

[00:28:24] He was an.

[00:28:26] Who's an openheimer?

[00:28:27] Yeah, and he was in the show with Nathan Felder and the curse.

[00:28:32] Yes, yes.

[00:28:33] So I feel bad for other saffty.

[00:28:36] Well, there's after he may not want to paint a way in being from the camera.

[00:28:39] You see that be behind by the.

[00:28:41] He said Benny Saffty like oh yeah, that's the one I that's the one I know his name.

[00:28:45] Yeah, so okay.

[00:28:46] So they are he is making a film directing a film called The Smashing Machine.

[00:28:51] Okay.

[00:28:52] It's about Donkey Kong.

[00:28:54] A biothec on Donkey Kong.

[00:28:56] That would be really cool.

[00:28:58] Well, considering who starring in this actually you could probably he might be able to pull that off.

[00:29:02] Uh it is starring a Mr. Duane Johnson the rock.

[00:29:07] Okay, who is going to be playing legendary MMA fighter Mark Hurr.

[00:29:13] Who struggled with addiction and his marriage while becoming an icon of the sport.

[00:29:19] Playing his wife, Don Staples, Curse wife is going to be Emily Blunt.

[00:29:25] Emily Blunt, Drain Johnson, Drain the rock Johnson played together in the jungle cruise movie.

[00:29:30] Oh yeah.

[00:29:31] Now they are in a drama directed by Benny Saffty about an MMA fighter and I'll just say this.

[00:29:39] I've seen the picture.

[00:29:41] A production still of a.

[00:29:44] A rock of the rock and I don't know what they've done a parent's wife with him.

[00:29:50] But he is a very different looking.

[00:29:54] I'm showing you the picture right now Chris that is Drain the rock Johnson.

[00:29:59] I encourage anybody to go online and just search for.

[00:30:03] Uh the rock or Drain the rock Johnson and whatever his name.

[00:30:06] And then the smashing machine and see this still that they've put out of him.

[00:30:10] He looks very different.

[00:30:12] He's like his face.

[00:30:13] No.

[00:30:14] I know.

[00:30:15] So here's here's why I'm intrigued by this project Chris.

[00:30:21] Okay.

[00:30:22] I'm intrigued by it because I think the Safftys are interesting directors.

[00:30:26] I'm curious to see what Benny Saffty would do on his own.

[00:30:29] It's a 24.

[00:30:30] So obviously it's got a good production studio that we're big fans of behind it.

[00:30:35] Johnson and blunt.

[00:30:36] I mean the jungle cruise was a passable film for me.

[00:30:42] It wasn't anything great but I did like the chemistry between the two of them on screen.

[00:30:46] So like okay now to see them both in a drama kind of playing I want to see how that

[00:30:50] roles.

[00:30:51] And most importantly, I want to see the rock in a drama.

[00:30:54] I want to see Drain the Rock Johnson do a true drama.

[00:30:57] I don't think we've had that yet unless we count what was the film he did early

[00:31:03] on with the Donnie Darker guy.

[00:31:07] Southland tales.

[00:31:08] He was in the movie Southland tales which was drama but it was all over the place.

[00:31:15] So this is going to be I think a little more of a straightforward dramatic biopic plus it's

[00:31:20] a person based on a person I don't know nothing about.

[00:31:24] And again yes it does have some vibes of Ironclaw and the rest learned some other movies

[00:31:29] we've had over the years.

[00:31:30] But I'm still intrigued.

[00:31:32] I think this is kind of interesting so your thoughts maybe?

[00:31:37] I'm trying to think of a sport that I am less interested in.

[00:31:42] Yes, in an exciting maybe curling although curling has the laugh factor of like you

[00:31:49] know because people make fun of it.

[00:31:51] So but like I really don't like in a may fighting.

[00:31:56] I want to walk in sports bar restaurant or whatever and I want to get eat and see that on this.

[00:32:01] Can they find any other sport to have on this even boxing brutal but I guess because it's been around

[00:32:08] longer I'm a little bit more lenient on it but I don't like it but in the may fighting

[00:32:12] I'm just like no so you're referencing with your as a not meant for me.

[00:32:17] This movie like yeah not and yeah I've never heard of this dude who's going to be

[00:32:23] but the people involved make me interested a 24 doing Johnson and my blonde Benny

[00:32:30] Sirafty I've got to think that there's something there.

[00:32:35] Yeah so that to me is a chance like okay I feel like it's better to say well

[00:32:39] hey guys make me care about this.

[00:32:41] See and I think the fact that it's a sport that I know nothing about and now having an interest in actually

[00:32:46] was what makes the film more interesting to me because I'm like alright make me interested

[00:32:50] in this person make me interested in what's happening here.

[00:32:53] Supposedly Emily Blent was the one who actually brought up the idea of making this film

[00:32:59] there was a 2002 documentary called the smashing machine the life and times of

[00:33:04] extreme fighter Mark Kerr and supposedly upon watching it she actually went to

[00:33:11] Dwayne Johnson and said you must make this movie like how about that.

[00:33:15] Yeah we're not great in whether that's PR spend.

[00:33:17] That's exactly what happened I'm sure.

[00:33:20] And then Mr Johnson himself has been quoted as saying this is according to variety

[00:33:25] that I'm reading this article from.

[00:33:27] He's saying he really want to make this movie because he said Benny wants to create

[00:33:31] and continues to push the envelope when it comes to stories that are raw and real

[00:33:35] characters that are authentic and at times uncomfortable and arresting.

[00:33:38] I'm at a point in my career I want to push myself in ways that I haven't

[00:33:42] pushed myself in the past.

[00:33:44] I'm at a point in my career while I want to make films that matter that explore

[00:33:47] humanity and explore struggle and pain.

[00:33:50] So rampage and San Andreas were not achieving that.

[00:33:53] No they didn't quite hit the humanity level that he was shooting for with his

[00:33:57] career but hopefully this might be the next step so.

[00:34:00] So we think not having seen the movie but having seen a still that you should

[00:34:04] audiences you'll have to go out there and Google the image for the smashing machine

[00:34:09] are we thinking Mr. Duane the Rock Johnson Oscar Dominique?

[00:34:13] Well he's obviously got aspiration so I mean there's no reason you go out and do a

[00:34:18] movie like this and make quotes like that if you didn't have some aspiration

[00:34:23] I want to be recognized as an actor and the way you get recognized is you went

[00:34:28] awards or you get nominated for awards see I'm sure that's going on the

[00:34:31] back of his head he's at that point in his career he's he's shown he can

[00:34:35] bring in the box office on a big action movie.

[00:34:38] Although I will say I mean you have to think about it I mean he has to

[00:34:41] been a big blockbuster that he's been like the lead in in a while.

[00:34:47] I mean I can't really think of him.

[00:34:49] I mean he was he was in the Hobbs and Shaw which wasn't over the

[00:34:53] successful professor for him he was in some of the other fast and furious franchise

[00:34:57] movies but as far as him being the draw the driver in a movie I mean I think

[00:35:01] the jamanji movies the two is an ensemble but I mean he was kind of more of the

[00:35:06] lead and those two and those two did okay did good money so jungle crews didn't

[00:35:12] really set the world on fire.

[00:35:15] I'm like I like the guy I'm rooting for him I'd like to see him do

[00:35:20] something dramatic and do like shows what he's really got what he's

[00:35:27] made of maybe this is the film to do it.

[00:35:31] So this is a machine there is no date yet but as obviously you could tell from the

[00:35:36] production still it is in production that we've been working on it but we don't have a

[00:35:41] date for release yet on that but um color me intrigued.

[00:35:46] Okay all right then the second news item I've got this is also one very intriguing

[00:35:52] to me although we don't have a star attached yet but we have a director and we have

[00:35:57] a subject for the film also biopic you were saying also a biopic okay so

[00:36:03] the Walter Isaacson yes he is made biographies written biographies about

[00:36:11] Steve Jobs.

[00:36:13] He also did one about Albert Einstein I believe I believe so and also maybe he's

[00:36:24] done I mean several like John Adams or he's yeah just kind of just well he's

[00:36:28] done one on Elon Musk is that where this is going.

[00:36:32] Okay all right so look if I told you actually been curious to read but I have

[00:36:38] it.

[00:36:39] Well if I told you that okay we're going to have a biopic about Elon Musk okay right

[00:36:42] away.

[00:36:43] I can hear trepidation in my own voice and my good boy however there are a couple

[00:36:48] things about this.

[00:36:49] It is going to be based on the Walter Isaacson book which that's interesting itself

[00:36:53] because the Walter Isaacson book from what I understand was not this glowing portrait

[00:36:58] of Elon Musk I mean it it had a lot of words and all things to share which

[00:37:03] you could say maybe not to that degree but same thing about the Steve Jobs book I mean

[00:37:08] he wasn't afraid to be like yeah this guy's accomplished a lot but he's also

[00:37:12] burned a lot of bridges and made a lot of people angry so here's the thing

[00:37:17] Andy Studio H24 one a heated bidding war for the rights to adapt the script

[00:37:23] interesting they've got it Isaacson's biography is going to be the basis for

[00:37:29] it and then they landed a director.

[00:37:34] Is it one of the they made a film with this person before?

[00:37:39] I think yes I'm just trying to guess yeah yeah yeah I mean I'm pretty sure

[00:37:45] because some of this guy's movies have been I think this guy's movies have been

[00:37:48] a 24 you tell me Darren Aaronowski Aaronowski recommend for a dream mother mother

[00:37:57] the whale most recently of course pie back in the day I think the whale may

[00:38:03] I think the whale was a 24 I think anyway yes Aaronowski has signed on to direct

[00:38:11] the biopic that Elon Musk based on the water Isaacson biography.

[00:38:18] That's an interesting choice because he's kind of a lightning rod director just like

[00:38:24] Musk is a light so that's interesting in the script yeah I can not imagine I

[00:38:31] mean unless you go for some of this like no this is just not and you don't try to

[00:38:34] make him look like I don't know anybody who actually looks like Musk he's an

[00:38:38] actor both you know the magic but you know what I've never said Michael

[00:38:42] Fath Benders and now for once again the movie is like you didn't really care

[00:38:46] right right right so they may just take that tack or that but yeah

[00:38:51] yeah so you know I mean here's a question so Musk obviously signs off on

[00:38:59] I just but for him to be the biographer of him they kind of see it's like

[00:39:03] I can put whatever I want in my book but like I understand you're going to

[00:39:06] be fair because you know he knows his reputation is there any type of sign

[00:39:10] off that Musk has to give to the film I wonder I don't know I mean in the book

[00:39:18] itself and again yeah the book Explore Elon Musk insight into his business

[00:39:23] his abusive childhood okay entre cassices of his love life I'd made headlines

[00:39:29] for the fact that it revealed that Musk had welcomed a third child with his

[00:39:33] own and again off again partner grimes and the whole situation of how

[00:39:39] she was unaware that Musk was having twins with an actual employee of his

[00:39:44] at the same time I don't know where if that is well there was like

[00:39:48] in a book there's a whole drama piece where both women are at the hospital

[00:39:53] at the same time unaware of each other's situation so you start to hear

[00:40:00] this and you start to think okay if they're really going to explore the true

[00:40:05] nature of this biography and you give Aaron Osske the range of the do it

[00:40:09] without any sign off on Musk himself this you could be making I mean

[00:40:16] Aaron Osske's films you could almost say have a little bit of a higher quality

[00:40:19] to a lot of them when the way they depicted I think you could say that could apply for this

[00:40:23] story as well they really wanted to go that route there's also rumors of drug abuse

[00:40:28] and other things with Musk which again you look at this is from the AV club

[00:40:35] gave this article I'm reading from but they kind of make some interesting

[00:40:40] comparison saying you know my story might align with some of Aaron Osske's previous

[00:40:46] interest you have a guy who may or may not be spiraling into drug use just like

[00:40:49] record what dream maybe obsessed with his own success possibly to the point of

[00:40:54] the end is black so long which was a narrow asking film and a kid apparently

[00:40:59] hates him one of his children supposedly his disowned him or hates him that

[00:41:03] would not be surprising compared to what you just don't know that's the whale

[00:41:07] movie as well so anyway I think that's kind of funny for the AV club to kind of

[00:41:12] make those comparisons but I don't know I'm intrigued by this because of Aaron Osske

[00:41:17] yes it's the whole thing I mean if it was just a straight straight on Elon Musk

[00:41:22] biography I'm not terribly interested but you added really interesting director

[00:41:27] backed by a great studio like okay now I'm interested so let's let's see

[00:41:32] what happens here you know it's interesting remember when the Steve jobs

[00:41:37] movie came out the one that Danny Boyle directed that was based on the

[00:41:42] Isaac's biography as well it was preface like months in advance by another movie

[00:41:48] I think just called jobs with Ash and Kuch and Kusher as the jobs still never seen

[00:41:53] it much of a show and you all maybe I did see it it's like pretty good

[00:42:01] well it was fine but it didn't have any teeth to it it just didn't feel like

[00:42:06] it took the the the the the easiest safest route in doing about it like a rush

[00:42:11] to put something out I'm curious because of the way the cycles run if

[00:42:16] we're gonna see another Elon Musk movie be kind of championed or worked on

[00:42:21] production wise because he's at a similar point career wise where jobs was about

[00:42:27] the time this all started where I could see people saying hey we want to we

[00:42:32] want to beat this film to the punch or maybe one that does have a little bit more

[00:42:36] buy and from musk himself so it's a little more of a positive view.

[00:42:40] Here's the production partner oh now I got his name good because it will be

[00:42:44] funny if I can say his name so I want an ad a McKay written and produced film

[00:42:51] called Musk starring Will Ferrell as Elon Musk that's what I want

[00:42:57] make it happen and I want that to come out before the Elon Musk as long as

[00:43:02] as long as McKay doesn't get overly pretty with it.

[00:43:05] No but I just want to be fight it's going to be real fair or reasonable money.

[00:43:08] Yeah I mean it will be pretty bad just want to be like making him look like

[00:43:12] you can please or I'm not going to be funny.

[00:43:15] It's interesting.

[00:43:16] Musk and that has to be an interesting.

[00:43:17] Musk right.

[00:43:19] Yeah so that's Darren Aaronowski which I mean is good because I was kind of curious

[00:43:25] what Aaronowski was gonna work on next.

[00:43:27] I know he's been doing some he did a film that plays at the sphere.

[00:43:32] Postcard from the earth.

[00:43:33] Yeah and he's done some other like nature type documentary style productions

[00:43:39] but the last film he did was the whale before that I think was mother.

[00:43:44] Okay see yeah I was curious to see what was going to be his next real film and

[00:43:48] it sounds like this is this is it so exciting.

[00:43:51] Yeah definitely.

[00:43:52] All right Chris that's our two news items to share we did have one third item

[00:43:57] a trailer that I think you wanted to share with us about a film that will be

[00:44:02] coming out soon you want to set this up for us tell us what we're going to see.

[00:44:05] But I'm sure it's going to be premiering on Apple TV plus it may come to theaters first

[00:44:10] because it seemed to be doing a lot of that recently but it's Apple TV plus like production.

[00:44:14] It pairs to up and commerce Brad Pitt.

[00:44:19] Brad Pitt got it and George Clooney.

[00:44:22] Oh yeah I've heard of those two chaps.

[00:44:25] Yeah I mean they're still new to the same but that's making it great things can be expected.

[00:44:29] They play contract I guess cleaners which means something bad happens and they go in

[00:44:37] they suppose of bodies or they handle situations.

[00:44:42] And they kind of are not they are not partners but they are forced to work together.

[00:44:47] And this is a this is a comedy.

[00:44:50] So it is a comedy.

[00:44:51] It does appear to be from the trailer so give a little bit of a trailer to get people a sense of the film.

[00:44:58] All right here's the trailer for with the film's name.

[00:45:01] Oh sorry yes that's important wolf's wolves.

[00:45:05] W-O-L-F-S which I'm wondering I hope is somehow a reference to Mr. Wolf in Paul fiction.

[00:45:15] That's well it's going to go to the movie.

[00:45:18] I'm really hoping that is still one of my favorite characters in all of the film history the wolf and

[00:45:24] man if this was like an homage to that that would be which you know from what I described like

[00:45:28] you know that was his kind of role and Paul fiction was a kind of a

[00:45:32] situation.

[00:45:33] So I'm hoping that that's where this is kind of a winking nod to that.

[00:45:38] All right well here we go wolf's the official trailer on Apple TV Plus.

[00:45:42] How'd you know?

[00:45:47] I was told that if I ever needed help to call you.

[00:45:51] You're a man who can fix things.

[00:45:57] I didn't know people like you really existed.

[00:45:59] They don't.

[00:46:00] There's no way to do what I do.

[00:46:12] Who are you?

[00:46:13] I'm here to take care of your problem. Who called you?

[00:46:17] All right so here's the thing yes that trailer one could debate of course

[00:46:30] that's what we're doing the show that trailer for me is pretty much perfect now

[00:46:34] it's a killies heel could be that it literally showed us every single funny bit of dialogue

[00:46:40] in the whole movie which would be a shame because I laughed several times at the trailer

[00:46:45] but if that's it then I already have this nice spoiled form of course that's the downfall

[00:46:49] of trailers and the chemistry we kind of knew from the oceans eleven movies like

[00:46:54] Brad Pitt, Clooney they've been in stuff together but it I mean it just looks like it's

[00:46:59] yeah I mean we know they can work together and it looks great.

[00:47:03] Here's here's my concern sure.

[00:47:06] The name that popped up halfway through the trailer as the director of the film

[00:47:10] I was at Joe Watts.

[00:47:12] No John John Watts.

[00:47:14] John Watts yeah I'm completely unfamiliar.

[00:47:16] Okay he did.

[00:47:17] You're going to bring me down.

[00:47:19] He did the the spider man.

[00:47:22] Trilogy the most recent spider man movies.

[00:47:25] The Andrew Garfield ones.

[00:47:28] No the the Marvel ones.

[00:47:31] The the one coming from him.

[00:47:34] Yeah.

[00:47:35] Which I've got our record saying that I the thing I have generally enjoyed those movies.

[00:47:43] I did not enjoy the third one as much and I thought that I even said I think on the show

[00:47:49] I think the director is probably the most boring director that you can have making these movies.

[00:47:54] So now I see he's the one directing this movie I'm like okay.

[00:47:59] However I look at it as an opportunity say look it's looks like he's working outside of the Marvel franchise

[00:48:05] Systems or maybe he's actually able to show his flourish as a as a good director.

[00:48:11] I don't know but I always thought that it was a pretty bland director for the movies I've seen him do

[00:48:18] But maybe we would like the first two spider man pretty well.

[00:48:22] Yeah but I like them not because they're a well-directed director.

[00:48:27] It was a well-directed movie that visually like was really interesting to look at or had a great style to it.

[00:48:33] No it was just we liked it because the characters and you know the plot machinations and all that were fine.

[00:48:41] That's not really the job of the director directors to how do we tell the story in a way that engages audience and makes it interesting to watch.

[00:48:50] And I don't know how much a director really has to put a lot of effort into directing, clony and pit to be wise cracking,

[00:49:00] Con man or people with criminal ties that have to banter with each other.

[00:49:05] I'm like I don't know how much a director really has to do to make that work with those two.

[00:49:10] But I just enjoy spending time in there.

[00:49:13] Absolutely that's why I'm looking forward to it as well but I do hope it's I hope it's good.

[00:49:20] And I with you I hope it's not just a matter that we just saw everything worthwhile or that we saw basically a synopsis of the entire film in two minutes which is also very possible.

[00:49:30] So kind of got like I got a little bit of that feel already.

[00:49:33] And it did say in the trailer that it was coming exclusively to theaters and then I think they'll kind of like the Napoleon thing where they put it in theaters but then eventually it does come on Apple TV plus.

[00:49:44] Yeah, so here's open again I'm not trying to badmouth Mr. Watson mean I just saying I remember specifically saying and I think there was even like a meme or some sort of internet thread at one point going on about.

[00:49:57] And being the most boring director in the Marvel universe films which is saying a lot because those films are not known for their outstanding directorial abilities you know and making those films.

[00:50:10] So we'll see just so you know other films that this guy has done John Watts.

[00:50:16] He did the film Copcar which had Kevin Bacon.

[00:50:22] Yeah yeah, come back in 2015. I think that was like one of his first films.

[00:50:27] Then he got ripped into the Marvel world with the Spider-Man movies.

[00:50:32] Yeah beyond that that's I mean it's copcar then it's the three Spider-Man movies and yeah and now this movie.

[00:50:42] Okay, he is signed on supposedly to do the fourth Spider-Man movie too so okay that's worth.

[00:50:49] So we'll see we'll see maybe if he gets to be more like he was with copcar.

[00:50:53] Can the fourth Spider-Man movie be called I'm home.

[00:50:56] Yeah, because it was like far from home no way home you're homecoming yeah far from home no way home can this one just be I'm home made at home or I'm staying home.

[00:51:08] It's just gonna be Spider-Man home hanging at home hanging at home.

[00:51:12] I'm home yeah I could kind of keep playing with that so.

[00:51:15] All right well wolves with her a date for that. I'm sorry I missed it.

[00:51:19] I missed it as well.

[00:51:21] The date of release for wolves.

[00:51:25] Oh yeah hold on.

[00:51:27] I'm thinking probably late summer because it's like it's not going to be an award type maybe since it's not going to hit sometime in the summer.

[00:51:35] Well it is Apple TV plus movie so I'm trying to kind of happen any time I guess they wanted to.

[00:51:41] Internet has been very slow for me here so unfortunately in my intern is out today so I'm kind of stuck I don't know when this film is coming down.

[00:51:52] Kind of like we'd like to have that date to be able to leave with people.

[00:51:55] Sure I'll see what I can tell me if you're having any better luck with anything at all.

[00:52:02] Oh here we go.

[00:52:04] Got it.

[00:52:05] It's coming out September 20th.

[00:52:07] Oh okay so after summer.

[00:52:09] Yeah.

[00:52:10] Yeah.

[00:52:11] September 20th is wolves.

[00:52:13] Brad Pitt, Amy Ryan, George Clooney and then Austin Abrams the younger person we saw in the film.

[00:52:20] Okay yep okay good deal.

[00:52:23] Thank you for that Chris.

[00:52:25] So now yet we have another spot without a jingle like I said but we need it for Chris's recommendation.

[00:52:31] This is the part of the show where sometimes we both bring a recommendation at the table but I'm not very good with that and have kind of exhausted.

[00:52:39] All of the movies I've seen that I like.

[00:52:43] Over the last 100 plus episodes.

[00:52:45] So I'm going to leave it to Chris who catches up with some much better things than I am able to see.

[00:52:50] So Chris you have a recommendation of a film that we all to check out and something else I can add to my ever growing watch list that I'll never get to.

[00:52:58] Well here's an advantage.

[00:52:59] I believe you've seen this film.

[00:53:01] Okay.

[00:53:02] So and when I say the title if you don't like it then you don't need to bother adding it to your list.

[00:53:07] And I feel like a lot of our listeners probably have seen it but the reason I'm recommending it is I've revisited the film and I'd forgotten how funny it was.

[00:53:17] I'll give you a little bit of teaser.

[00:53:19] It involves Greg Keneer, Tony Colette, Steve Correll, Paul Danna and Alan Arkin and Abigail Brasslin.

[00:53:26] Who's Abigail Brasslin in the film?

[00:53:28] She's the title Little Miss Sunshine.

[00:53:30] In 2006 it was the first one of the first films that had a directing duo of Jonathan Dayton and Valerie Ferris.

[00:53:38] Yes.

[00:53:39] And I think it had its people, this song its praises back in 2006 but then it kind of became a victim of oh that's a Sundance movie because it's like this quirky family and everybody in the family seems to be like nothing but a quirk.

[00:53:54] And but it has kind of an uplifting note at the end.

[00:53:58] So I understand the grievances with the formula machine that was like here's a film that will do well at Sundance.

[00:54:04] I remember seeing it back in 2006 and by the time I saw it I was kind of like okay you know it's just like it wasn't bad but I was like okay and I guess I fell into the mindset of yeah this is everything thereby's you know are all the digs that people were launching at the film.

[00:54:18] I kind of nodded my head but what I forgot and what I revisited is it's actually really funny and somebody that really stood out for me this time probably because

[00:54:28] I knew he was when he did the film but Steve Correll in the film like I think he's the star his performance and it's not you know he'd come off doing the office.

[00:54:38] Maybe he was actually still doing the office.

[00:54:40] I think he still wasn't doing the office.

[00:54:42] So but now that we have seen him do so much just this role of being very understated but being able to just man makes them amazing one minor digs and stuff like his character was awesome.

[00:54:54] And you know Greg Canier he's good too, totally like yeah they're all they're all good Abigail Paul Dana who if you remember actually does not speak for a lot of the run.

[00:55:05] That's right yeah yeah.

[00:55:06] Still amazing like I really now yet I think I'd forgotten when I was gonna watch I was like oh yeah it's supposed to be funny and it's quirky people.

[00:55:15] And it is all that and the first you know 20 minutes or so are really funny but it does have it does have some dark.

[00:55:23] Oh sure dark human there is some dark stuff in there and I forgot some of that but yeah so it doesn't.

[00:55:28] Doesn't the character that Steve Correll play I mean I've been a long time stuff seeing this.

[00:55:34] It doesn't it's in there some drama with his character absolutely okay I've seen her remember that yes I mean actually has the the bigger character art.

[00:55:45] Kind of in the film and time member crackly too so yeah so it's it's it's streaming on he'll do so you can watch me free there or you can probably rent it at all the usual services but yeah a little bit sunshine no I do remember liking it okay.

[00:56:01] I remember being really amped up to see it and wanting to love it and not loving it when I saw it the first time and maybe it was because of all of the.

[00:56:10] There's a lot of hyper well and it was also at that time where the indie like you said the indie quirky comedy drama drama.

[00:56:18] Dramaity was kind of bubbling up a lot in a lot of places and I think a lot of films felt like they were trying to hit a formula of like how do we put this cast of people together with these very.

[00:56:29] unique personalities and we make it funny but yet there's got to be this underlying drama that also hits to yeah it's.

[00:56:37] It might have been a culprit of that and kind of may have effect a little bit by doing remember liking it and I would like to check it out again sometime now.

[00:56:46] See a little miss sunshine streaming on who it's okay very good well thank you so much for that that is great.

[00:56:52] And that is going to wrap it up for our show today thanks everybody for listening to the show Chris if anybody wants to follow up with us or anything going forward what what should they do.

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