Dune Part Two

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[00:00:31] Hello everyone and welcome to Footcandal Films here on the Mash.tv podcast network.

[00:00:40] My name is Alan Jackson. Whitney is always Chris Fry. We are both with the book handle film society

[00:00:46] and the annual book handle film festival

[00:00:48] coming up in late September.

[00:00:50] But we'll tease about that a little bit later on the show.

[00:00:53] So Chris, how you doing?

[00:00:54] I am doing well.

[00:00:56] Enjoying getting to talk about one of the first,

[00:01:00] I guess big films to come out.

[00:01:02] We've already done a 2024 film,

[00:01:04] but this is a more significant film

[00:01:07] than what we talked about in our last episode,

[00:01:09] Driveaway Dolls.

[00:01:10] This is, most people will have heard of this film

[00:01:12] that we're gonna discuss today.

[00:01:14] It has been quite the buzz,

[00:01:16] did pretty well at the box office,

[00:01:18] kind of the first big blockbuster we've had

[00:01:20] in the theaters in a while.

[00:01:22] And yes, we are talking about Dune Part Two.

[00:01:26] And that's what we're gonna be reviewing here

[00:01:28] in just a minute, talking through our thoughts

[00:01:31] of that film and our experiences in watching it.

[00:01:34] And then after that review, we will have a couple of,

[00:01:37] we're gonna bring back some trailers.

[00:01:38] We've got some trailers to play,

[00:01:39] have some new films that are gonna be released

[00:01:42] in the coming months.

[00:01:43] And we're gonna kinda pick those apart and talk about what we are excited

[00:01:47] or maybe concerned about with the films that we're seeing.

[00:01:50] And then as always, I say as always, it's not been ever set up that this is something

[00:01:54] we do every time, but Chris, you always have a recommendation of a film to share.

[00:01:58] So can I just go on a record and say this is Chris's recommendation segment.

[00:02:04] We like, it's a pretty standard thing of the show.

[00:02:06] I mean, sometimes you bail me out because I haven't seen enough stuff and you'll do

[00:02:10] like more news items, but more often than not, yeah, I'll do a record.

[00:02:14] Oh, no, Chris.

[00:02:15] If you come into the recording studio and you hadn't watched something to recommend, you

[00:02:19] almost will that end up power.

[00:02:21] Like you make that happen by the time our recording happens.

[00:02:23] So yeah, we'll see. We're going to say it's a fairly standard, standard segment. But all that to

[00:02:30] say, Chris Fry will be sharing a recommendation at the end of the episode of a film that maybe

[00:02:34] you might want to check out if you're looking for something to watch. But let's go ahead and get

[00:02:38] into our main review, Chris. It is the latest film by writer, director, Denis Villeneuve,

[00:02:43] It is the latest film by writer, director, Denis Villanuve, based on the Frank Herbert classic

[00:02:47] science fiction novel.

[00:02:49] And it is the second part of his series of films.

[00:02:52] This is Dune Part Two.

[00:02:56] Express taking.

[00:02:59] Where you see Sand here?

[00:03:01] Imagine water.

[00:03:02] If you dive in, you can't reach the bottom.

[00:03:04] You dive in. Yes, it's cold swimming. imagine water. If you dive in, you can't reach the bottle. You dive in.

[00:03:05] Yes, it's cold swimming.

[00:03:07] I don't believe you.

[00:03:13] In the shadows of Arrakis lie many secrets.

[00:03:17] But the darkest of them all may remain.

[00:03:23] The end of House of Treaties.

[00:03:26] The Father didn't believe the revenge.

[00:03:30] In 1984, Altor, Director David Lynch, took a shot at adapting Frank Herbert's sprawling

[00:03:36] sci-fi epic dune to the big screen.

[00:03:39] The film was a box office failure, resulting in Lynch refusing to actually talk about it

[00:03:44] in interviews and

[00:03:45] removing his name from the credits or using a fake name. Fast forward to 2021, as the world

[00:03:51] is attempting to emerge from a global pandemic, acclaimed director Denis Villeneuve delivers his

[00:03:56] partial take on the tale Dune Part 1. Now three years later, we return to Arrakis with Dune Part 2. We rejoin Paul Atreides as he unites with Chani and the Fremen while seeking revenge

[00:04:10] against the conspirators who destroyed his family.

[00:04:13] Alan, you were more positive than I was on the first installment, although we both liked

[00:04:18] it.

[00:04:19] What was your experience with Part 2?

[00:04:22] All right, well, let me back up a couple moments. I'm just gonna

[00:04:28] go ahead I'm gonna say I really like this but I gotta give a little bit of

[00:04:32] I really like this. So did you see this in the big big D theater? I did not. I

[00:04:44] actually I saw neither one.

[00:04:47] They were usually in part one.

[00:04:48] I didn't see the big theater.

[00:04:49] I don't remember what the reasoning was.

[00:04:50] I think because I couldn't get,

[00:04:51] actually, same reasoning this time.

[00:04:54] I couldn't get to a screening scheduling time.

[00:04:57] That was a big theater.

[00:04:58] So I saw it in the, just a regular theater.

[00:05:00] Not Adobe theater.

[00:05:02] I saw this in the, in our theater here the AMC here in our town of Hickory

[00:05:06] We have the big D. Yes, they still call the no they call this call the doe be theater. I think they maybe lost a licensing or something

[00:05:14] Well or realize that was a really dumb name for a screen

[00:05:18] So they are big large screen. It's not an IMAX screen

[00:05:22] I there's a just a large screen and suppose

[00:05:25] these suppose to be well known for the sound system in there. Oh and they show

[00:05:29] you like the projector is still on with a little intro where it's like shows you

[00:05:33] how the difference is between the projectors. It's kind of ridiculous now.

[00:05:36] I would agree. So as soon as I'm watching the trailers before this movie I

[00:05:40] noticed that everything on the screen seems to have a little bit of a red

[00:05:44] tint to it like all the screen image seems to be just a tad

[00:05:48] on the red side to the point where it's distracting to me. Oh no. So I'm

[00:05:53] there's like I'm telling the people I'm with. I'm like okay look this has got to

[00:05:56] go away by the time the movie starts. Oh no. And it did not. Now luckily Dune on a

[00:06:03] planet, the planet has a little bit of a red-orange

[00:06:07] tan-

[00:06:08] It's just still kind of threw everything off a little bit.

[00:06:12] And I'll say this too, before I get into my review, Chris.

[00:06:16] Sure, sure.

[00:06:16] I'm one thing you were a little, I think maybe you didn't appreciate as much in

[00:06:22] the first film is, you know, it really was truly half a story that was like no

[00:06:27] There was no ending to a story at all. I mean, I know that was always marketed as part one part two

[00:06:32] But even when you try to do that sometimes you still have seem to have some sort of

[00:06:37] Nice closure to a film even in a part one even if it leaves open doors for a part two

[00:06:43] Dune didn't really do that. Dune just kind of said, nope, okay, story stopping right now.

[00:06:49] And I assumed, and this is not a spoiler for anybody,

[00:06:54] I'm telling you this is a public service announcement to anybody.

[00:06:57] I assumed all along going into this movie

[00:07:02] that there were only going to be two movies.

[00:07:06] So I kind of had a little bit of that feeling

[00:07:08] at the end of the film where she'll say,

[00:07:10] huh, okay, that's a nod place to end and a nod thing to do.

[00:07:15] And then I realized afterwards, I'm like,

[00:07:17] oh no, there are been plans to do a third one.

[00:07:20] So I got a little bit of that whiplash feeling too

[00:07:23] that people have.

[00:07:24] So that, okay, all that to say,

[00:07:26] I really did like this film.

[00:07:27] I really did have a good time with it.

[00:07:29] I did have some issues with the presentation of the film

[00:07:32] in the manner I was telling you.

[00:07:35] I'm sure.

[00:07:36] But on its whole as a film,

[00:07:37] like if I liked the first part,

[00:07:40] I liked the first part enough.

[00:07:41] I was more in all of the first one than I was enjoying it

[00:07:47] because it's a complex movie.

[00:07:49] This second one is also a complex movie, I feel like.

[00:07:53] I do think this second one, this one,

[00:07:55] I liked more because I felt like

[00:07:58] I felt like there was more work done

[00:08:00] with some of the characters, which do,

[00:08:02] and I will say as a series,

[00:08:03] is not a film series.

[00:08:05] I'm going to go out and say that character development and really making you connect with

[00:08:08] characters was really its ultimate goal. I do feel like like Denny Villeneuve's films,

[00:08:16] they do tend to be a little distant with the characters. They tend to rely a little more on

[00:08:21] the visual than they are they do the characterizations. This one does a little more on the visual than they do the characterizations.

[00:08:25] This one does a little bit better than doing the first one.

[00:08:29] I think I like it a little bit more.

[00:08:31] I feel like there's a little more connection with the characters.

[00:08:34] There is a bit more of a narrative flow to the story.

[00:08:39] There's some really good action sequences, not to say there wasn't in the first one,

[00:08:43] but I really feel like there's some standout sequences here.

[00:08:46] And visually I think everything's just been ratcheted up even more from an already high

[00:08:50] level I saw with the first tune.

[00:08:52] So all that to say, I did thoroughly enjoy this.

[00:08:58] I thought it was really, really great.

[00:09:01] I am probably more still in all of the visuals than I am anything else in the film,

[00:09:06] but I still found enough and even everything else I liked to enjoy this as much as I did.

[00:09:12] Yeah, the thing that keeps, I think for me that holds it back from being like a science fiction

[00:09:16] masterpiece, is I still feel like it's a bit distant. I do feel like the characters are a bit

[00:09:22] distant. I do feel like there are some a bit distant. I do feel like there's some choices

[00:09:25] and narrative decisions made in the story with certain characters that I'm not quite

[00:09:31] buying or I don't quite see the evolution that they tried to develop. That kind of keeps

[00:09:36] it from being, you know, to me, a classic science fiction film where I've, you really

[00:09:41] have some characters that you can really identify with along with some imagined incredible sequences and visuals and science fiction elements. This one would

[00:09:50] just fell short a little short of that, but I still feel like one of the better, definitely

[00:09:55] one of the better world building films and science fiction films that's out there. And

[00:10:00] I am, I was pretty impressed with it. So, but Chris, I Chris, I'm curious, I ran the bullet for a while there,

[00:10:06] but gave you plenty of time to get your thoughts together.

[00:10:09] Sure.

[00:10:09] What did you think of doing part two,

[00:10:11] and especially giving your somewhat little bit

[00:10:14] of concern with the first one?

[00:10:16] So yeah, when we were, if people rewind back

[00:10:21] to the review of the first one, I said I liked it.

[00:10:23] I was just really disappointed at how it was a part one

[00:10:26] and some of that echoes from the introduction I gave.

[00:10:29] And I couldn't get out of my head.

[00:10:31] It's just one of those things that once I've seen something,

[00:10:33] once I know something, I can't get out of my head.

[00:10:35] I'd seen the 1984 David Lynch.

[00:10:37] I'm a big David Lynch fan.

[00:10:39] So I'd seen his version of Doom.

[00:10:40] Do I think it's a great film?

[00:10:41] No, but I thought it was interesting.

[00:10:43] At the time when I saw it, I was huge sci-fi nerd, which is still am, but even more so then. And so

[00:10:49] I liked it just because it was in space and it was weird. So I was frustrated. I was

[00:10:54] mentioned the prior review that I knew this could be told in one movie. And so it frustrated

[00:11:02] me like the Lord of the Rings movies where you had Return of the King took six times to tell it. It's like it's one book. And so

[00:11:09] that really frustrated me. It didn't take six times or six installments of

[00:11:14] Return of the King. But you get my point. And then Hobbit, they did that same thing.

[00:11:17] So it frustrates me sometimes when I feel like people are just, it's a

[00:11:23] business and people are just trying to make more money and cash in on the franchise.

[00:11:26] I had that same sinking feeling on this film as well. Now that to say, I did like the film, just like, and I think,

[00:11:35] um, because it kind of did some payoff on a lot of what I thought the first film was also doing, which was just set up, set up, set up. This one was more satisfying from actually being a story

[00:11:49] and kind of ending it, but it did do some franchise care

[00:11:53] with like, and I'll get to that complaint later,

[00:11:55] but so overall, I did like it,

[00:11:58] but I'm still disappointed that it couldn't kind of

[00:12:03] close things off and make it more of like a complete film with the first film.

[00:12:07] You know, so that it didn't do, but kind of echoing some of what you were saying on the positive stuff,

[00:12:13] scope. It's what Dilly Villeneuve does so well in part one and does again in this sequel,

[00:12:19] the Vasland's Gate, the gigantic spaceships, the enormous sandworms, giving credit to where credits do as well, you know, production

[00:12:27] design, the costumes and the effects, you know, all create a

[00:12:31] world that is truly unique and engaging and makes it worth

[00:12:37] seeing on the biggest screen possible that you can't.

[00:12:39] You know, so all of that, that's great.

[00:12:41] And then, you know, score Hans Zimmer doing the score and

[00:12:43] everything and you see it in a theater with the booming sound yet.

[00:12:46] All that all that creates a great theatrical experience.

[00:12:51] And that was kind of the shame with what happened with the first film is they

[00:12:55] released it simultaneously on HBO Max and the theater because we were coming

[00:13:00] out of the pandemic and they wanted to, you know, so they were trying to at

[00:13:04] least get eyeballs on the film and stuff.

[00:13:06] So this film got the benefit of, Hey, this is just a theatrical release,

[00:13:10] which, you know, I think will make people appreciate it because, yeah,

[00:13:13] of course it's more gratifying to see something on a big screen, you know,

[00:13:16] not in your house. So all that, all that stuff I liked.

[00:13:20] And I'll say to the cast, good in the first film,

[00:13:24] I thought they were good as well. So

[00:13:26] I won't really kind of run down the cast because a lot of it's the same people. What I will do

[00:13:30] is kind of mention some of the performances that were new to part two. We have Christopher

[00:13:36] Walken, we have Florence Pugh, we have Austin Butler, we have a little bit of Lea Seydoux,

[00:13:41] which okay, her cameo is kind of brief. And then we have In A Taylor Joy,

[00:13:45] which is part of the eye rolling,

[00:13:47] and I don't understand why they did that at all.

[00:13:50] I mean, I know what they were doing,

[00:13:51] but it just was unnecessary.

[00:13:54] In a film that's already packed with lots of,

[00:13:58] you know, it's a great cast and a lot of famous people,

[00:14:01] like you just shove one in there that didn't,

[00:14:03] you just had one scene.

[00:14:05] I know, can I ask you a question about the Dune books?

[00:14:10] Okay, I've only read the first book.

[00:14:12] Okay.

[00:14:13] And I've seen, you know, the David Lynch movie.

[00:14:14] So I haven't, but I know, I will say this,

[00:14:17] I'm aware that the next book, and there are a lot of them,

[00:14:20] I don't know how many, but I know there are a lot of them.

[00:14:22] The next book is called Dune Messiah.

[00:14:24] I do know that, which if you know the ending of this film, it kind of plays into it.

[00:14:28] And it again, it takes place more in the future from this story. I understand. Okay, there is some

[00:14:36] aging involved that's going to be involved in the actors to get to that next point. So my only reason I ask all this is yes I agree I thought

[00:14:45] the cameo and a Taylor Joy it just the only reason I would have been okay with

[00:14:53] that cameo is if I felt like that that character and that actress was going to

[00:14:57] play a part in the next movie well but I don't see how time-wise they would make

[00:15:01] that work in the sequencing of the film.

[00:15:05] Okay. So, you know, that's, we'll, I mean, we'll see, but it was super, super nerdy

[00:15:10] and a bigger nerd than me can chime in and tell me how I'm wrong. I haven't seen the

[00:15:14] original doing it in a while. I haven't read the book in even longer time. I mentioned

[00:15:17] the first review of the first new movie. I hated the book. So any any true Saffa and it'll probably stop listening to me. But in the first Dune movie that they made, you know, David Lynch, the sister,

[00:15:31] I'll go ahead and say that's you, and a Taylor Joy is representing on screen. If

[00:15:35] I'm not mistaken, that sister is born in the first movie. And because of Mojo

[00:15:42] weirdness that happens with everything going to Miss Disseminate,

[00:15:45] she's born and she's like rapidly ages to where she's

[00:15:49] like a four year old that's walking around.

[00:15:51] Like I think you're there beginning of the film,

[00:15:53] the mom's pregnant and then poof, she's out

[00:15:56] and she's like a four or five year old kid

[00:15:59] and the kid is creepy.

[00:16:01] Okay, so there was a chance that, you know, again,

[00:16:04] they throw in the cameo, it's like. Okay. So there is a chance that, you know, again, they throw in the cameo. It's like

[00:16:06] in a vision where Paul sees his sister and his sister is fully grown, like basically his age.

[00:16:13] Yeah, in a tailored joy. Yeah. And that's it. I mean, it's really a 10 second scene, if that.

[00:16:20] Right. And it just, to me, yeah, just dumb. Yeah, still dumb. If you're going to do it, I did agree with that.

[00:16:26] I thought that was a little...

[00:16:27] I just assumed that she was going now going to be playing a part in the saga,

[00:16:31] but she appeared nowhere else in the movie,

[00:16:34] and I don't know if she'll be a part of the third...

[00:16:36] Do you miss out? Yeah.

[00:16:37] Do you miss out? I don't know if she will be or not.

[00:16:39] I will say that I feel kind of sorry for Anna Taylor-Joy,

[00:16:41] if that's the case, because I think she's good.

[00:16:43] And it now seems like she's doing Furiosa,

[00:16:45] and if she does do me sight,

[00:16:46] it's like, are you stuck just doing

[00:16:48] tent pole blockbuster movies?

[00:16:50] I think you're more talented than whatever.

[00:16:52] It's a paycheck.

[00:16:53] So let me run down some of the things of the cast,

[00:16:56] Christopher Walken.

[00:16:57] I remember hearing that he was gonna be in this,

[00:16:59] and I was like, that's kind of an odd choice,

[00:17:02] but actually, I think he's good. And it's kind of provides a little, but actually I Think he's good. Yeah, you know

[00:17:06] It's kind of provides a little bit of humor in a way because you bring the backstory what you know about Christopher Walkin the way

[00:17:11] He delivers dialogue and stuff, but it kind of works for the character that he's playing at the Emperor

[00:17:16] It worked for me. Well, I I can't remember having seen him play a role that was a subdued, very serious role. I mean, there was like no humor, there's no, I mean, even

[00:17:27] his affectation has just his speaking styles kind of even

[00:17:30] just brought down considerably.

[00:17:32] So it's a very tame role.

[00:17:34] Right.

[00:17:34] But I thought he was good at it.

[00:17:35] Yeah.

[00:17:36] Yeah.

[00:17:36] And Florence Pugh, for what little she was able to do, I

[00:17:40] thought she was really good.

[00:17:42] So I enjoyed her.

[00:17:43] I guess the standout of the new people we have

[00:17:47] that are in the cast would be Austin Butler.

[00:17:50] He does fade and originally played by Sting

[00:17:54] in the first movie or in the David Lynch version.

[00:17:58] So I knew he was gonna be in it.

[00:18:00] You would see trailers with some of him on screen.

[00:18:03] And yeah, he did a good job.

[00:18:06] I mean, the character's bald and his face

[00:18:10] is like altered so it looks really weird.

[00:18:12] Like, I think in a way, if you didn't know

[00:18:14] that was Austin Butler, you may not know it, Tim.

[00:18:16] Yeah.

[00:18:17] But I thought he did a great job.

[00:18:19] I thought he was great.

[00:18:20] And actually, the film got more electric for me

[00:18:24] anytime he was on the

[00:18:25] screen and his character was on the scene.

[00:18:28] Cold port?

[00:18:30] What's Dave Vatista?

[00:18:32] It's like he's just totally like kind of side.

[00:18:36] Well that's kind of the story like yeah he kind of gets pushed to the side because

[00:18:39] this new guy comes in and takes over.

[00:18:43] There's an entire sequence on there on planet,

[00:18:46] a black and white sequence.

[00:18:49] Okay, we can get there.

[00:18:50] Yep.

[00:18:51] Okay. I loved.

[00:18:53] I thought it looked awesome.

[00:18:54] I was at black and white.

[00:18:55] I don't know, but it just looked cool.

[00:18:56] You need to do it.

[00:18:57] You need to do it.

[00:18:58] My wife, he leaned over and just like,

[00:18:59] why is it black and white?

[00:19:00] Oh, it's not.

[00:19:01] That's just how, and I was like justifying in the middle of the theater.

[00:19:04] We were, you know, actually the theater was sparsely attended, and I was like justifying in the middle of the theater, we were, you know,

[00:19:09] actually the theater was sparsely attended so I could like give commentary. I was like, oh, that's just because probably the sun is really bright and everything's washed out,

[00:19:12] wait till blood starts showing up and then there'll be like splashes of red and they're doing it

[00:19:16] to make like cinematography. But then I was like, and it concluded and I was like, yeah, I don't

[00:19:21] know why they did that. I don't know either, but look cool. That kind of other than looking cool, I was kind of annoyed, but then

[00:19:28] actually my wife ended up defending it afterwards.

[00:19:30] We were driving home.

[00:19:31] We were talking about the film and she said, well, didn't they say

[00:19:34] something about it's a ceremony out in the black sun or like they made

[00:19:40] some kind of like comment and I was like, oh, okay, you know, maybe

[00:19:43] that's, but I just, it was really jarring because it was like,

[00:19:47] it just looked like it was,

[00:19:48] yeah, it was like.

[00:19:49] It was just all these guys are pale white anyway.

[00:19:52] Right.

[00:19:53] I mean, I figured it had to do something

[00:19:54] with a certain environment outside where they were,

[00:19:57] where they were a poor boy.

[00:19:58] Anyway, I didn't really put them at your thought.

[00:20:00] I just thought it was, look great.

[00:20:01] And shot so well.

[00:20:03] So, yeah, no, it was, that was good.

[00:20:06] I think that's the element that I felt like the first film

[00:20:08] just kind of missed is some really, really interesting

[00:20:14] characters.

[00:20:15] I mean, the characters in the first one were,

[00:20:18] I mean, a lot of them I felt like were very stock

[00:20:22] science fiction characters.

[00:20:23] It's like, okay, here's your guide that has to become the kind of the hero over the course.

[00:20:28] You're Luke Skywalker characters. Yeah. Here's, you know, these other characters and we're

[00:20:31] all kind of very, very much in line with what you would expect for a story. Sure. And then

[00:20:35] I think this one is like, okay, now let's throw in this really like creepy chaotic guy

[00:20:40] and he's now our bad guy. I'm like, oh, okay. Now this starts to get a little interesting. And it did make the

[00:20:45] film to me more interesting in general along the way.

[00:20:49] Let me so something that was not in the first film, doing part

[00:20:53] one, that a lot of people complained about basically,

[00:20:57] Zendaya played Chani in the first film. But you saw her a

[00:21:01] little bit towards the end. But basically other than that, all

[00:21:04] you saw was her like looking longingly at the camera in these flashback dreams. Well, in this,

[00:21:10] Paul and Chionni do get together, you do get to scenes with them. And I never really bought it,

[00:21:18] which was the shame. It was like, you know, non-existent part one. And then I felt like

[00:21:24] part two,

[00:21:25] I thought they did a decent job at the very beginning,

[00:21:27] kind of, if you hadn't seen part one recently,

[00:21:30] they kind of brought you up to speed a little bit

[00:21:32] by kind of, you know, setting the scene.

[00:21:33] And then they went right into the story of part two.

[00:21:35] Great.

[00:21:36] But what did happen was I felt like Paul and Chani

[00:21:39] went straight into like making googly eyes at each other

[00:21:41] and being like goofy, cute and like falling in love.

[00:21:44] And it just, I don't know.

[00:21:46] And I think both are fine actors.

[00:21:49] So I don't blame them.

[00:21:50] I blame the script and it just never worked.

[00:21:54] And actually, it wasn't just one instance, right?

[00:21:57] But any time the two of them were alone

[00:22:00] and they were having dialogue scenes, I kind of laughed.

[00:22:04] And sometimes I did laugh out loud

[00:22:05] and kind of rolled my eyes in the theater

[00:22:06] because it was just like, I feel like it was kind of bad.

[00:22:10] And I don't, there again, I don't blame the actors.

[00:22:13] I just maybe in the context of trying to tell

[00:22:16] this big epic story that just kind of, you know,

[00:22:19] glossed around not something that other big famous

[00:22:22] sci-fi films, Star Wars franchise, is not also guilty of.

[00:22:27] But in this particular aspect, I was just like,

[00:22:29] ugh, you know, just any time I would see

[00:22:31] they were together, I was just like, uh-oh, here we go.

[00:22:34] Yeah, and that's kind of why I was leading too early

[00:22:36] with my summary is, is I still feel like there's some,

[00:22:41] there's some character,

[00:22:44] character development, character decisions,

[00:22:47] the nature of relationships between people

[00:22:49] that just isn't quite fleshed out

[00:22:52] or really shown as well as it could be.

[00:22:56] And it makes it hard to connect with the characters

[00:22:58] because okay, we've mentioned Star Wars a couple times.

[00:23:01] Yeah, I know that's kind of a nap comparison.

[00:23:03] It's a touchstone.

[00:23:04] It's Star Wars, couple times. Yeah, I know that's kind of a nap comparison. It's a touchstone. It's Star Wars.

[00:23:05] I mean, you could see that this Dune is a much, much, much

[00:23:08] higher level, cerebral version of a Star Wars original film.

[00:23:13] But in Star Wars, the thing that connected with audiences

[00:23:15] is you liked these characters and you

[00:23:20] wanted to be like these characters.

[00:23:21] You know, it was kind of that.

[00:23:23] Dune isn't really meant to be that way, and I get it.

[00:23:26] It doesn't have to pander to us and try

[00:23:28] to make the hero super heroic over the top guy.

[00:23:32] We don't have to have the villain that's just,

[00:23:34] you know, there's an odd costume,

[00:23:36] a really cool costume, whatever.

[00:23:37] I get it, but we still need to feel some sort

[00:23:40] of connection with these characters.

[00:23:41] And I agree, I never, both won into,

[00:23:44] never quite felt a connection with these characters. And I agree, I never, both won into, never quite felt a connection with Paul,

[00:23:47] didn't feel the relationship with he and Shawn,

[00:23:49] to Shawnee.

[00:23:51] Paul and his mother,

[00:23:53] there's just a lot of connections I don't feel like

[00:23:55] get played.

[00:23:56] I think they're better hearing too,

[00:23:58] than they were in one.

[00:23:59] But they're still not where they could be

[00:24:02] to really make this a film that I think audiences

[00:24:06] kind of just love. I mean, I think right now they're all of this film. I think audiences

[00:24:11] are amazed by this film. I think that the visually, the experience of watching it in a big theater

[00:24:15] with Big Sound System is great, but they don't feel like people love it. And I think it's because

[00:24:21] you just don't have the character relationships that you can really

[00:24:33] bond with, you know? So anyway. Yeah, I'm agreed. All that agreed. And then what complicates that

[00:24:39] is by, you know, the film to earn 44 minutes. So take a drink if I'm going to complain about length of film, but also by the time it got to maybe the hour and a half part, the dream sequences,

[00:24:47] which usually reflect something about the relationship between Chani and Paul or whatever.

[00:24:51] I would just roll my eyes when the dream things started.

[00:24:54] And then I got worn out by the mysticism and lore.

[00:24:59] I mean, the mere fact that Paul is like my heed, then he's more deep or maybe he's the

[00:25:03] Hazarak, Shadrach, Abednego, or whatever. Like I just so many names so much

[00:25:08] to learn. I'm just like, okay, I don't care. It's just like you're spouting

[00:25:12] random stuff. Now I know a lot of that stuff's in the book and a lot of, you

[00:25:15] know, it's like you're saying it's kind of a more cerebral star wars, but I

[00:25:18] just feel like, and I appreciate cerebral movies, but I feel like it just gets

[00:25:23] bogged down.

[00:25:25] And actually Rebecca Ferguson, you mentioned the relationship between her character Jessica

[00:25:29] and Timothy Chalamet's Paul and the first film and this film, I actually like the relationship

[00:25:35] more in the first film because it wasn't, I guess it was more simple.

[00:25:39] It was just a mother's son, whereas this, she kind of-

[00:25:43] It becomes a little more complex.

[00:25:45] It comes complex and she goes mysticism like 10 times

[00:25:50] as much as she was in the first film.

[00:25:52] And it just, it complicates stuff and it makes me kind of eye roll

[00:25:55] whenever she starts talking to you because I'm like, okay, here we go.

[00:25:58] It's a great example.

[00:25:59] You bring up Rebecca Ferguson's character.

[00:26:01] I mean, she started, starts the film as one character.

[00:26:06] She gets embraced in a certain group and kind of gets elevated to Reverend

[00:26:13] Mother. Yeah, to Reverend Mother pretty darn quickly and immediately and I don't

[00:26:17] really understand the mechanics of how she got there and then it's she has a

[00:26:22] different character almost for the rest of the movie, which understandably should the

[00:26:25] position she's in. But that progression of her character or

[00:26:29] that that reason for the change, I felt like was very abrupt. It

[00:26:33] didn't really make sense in some cases. Yeah, development

[00:26:40] characters, there's Paul that Paul does make some changes in his belief system and kind of his

[00:26:48] his approach, which I understand from a broad standpoint, but I don't think the film did a really

[00:26:54] good job of helping us see what exactly was happening and why and making us feel anything for Paul in

[00:27:01] this situation. So we kind of become like Chani does at the

[00:27:05] end of the film just kind of like watching Paul being like I don't I don't

[00:27:08] really know what this guy is anymore you know and there's a little bit of that

[00:27:12] with the audience too so I again when it comes to developing characters why

[00:27:16] they do the things they do what are the rationale what's the actions driving

[00:27:20] their decisions the film doesn't seem to really want to play a lot of attention

[00:27:24] that it's like just go ahead and get these characters into the places we need driving their decisions. The film doesn't seem to really want to play a lot of attention to that.

[00:27:25] It's like just go ahead and get these characters into the places we need them to be so we can move

[00:27:30] this plot forward as opposed to helping us understand why the characters are where they are or what

[00:27:35] they're doing, which I think would help build that connection with the cast members more that

[00:27:40] I was looking for. I would have liked more. That all to say, I still think this is an amazing film.

[00:27:46] I still am in more in all of this film than anything,

[00:27:50] but what could have made it outstanding would have been

[00:27:55] really, really, shorten up the characters more

[00:27:58] in helping us relate to the characters a bit more

[00:28:00] and relate to their decisions.

[00:28:02] Yeah, I mentioned first film,

[00:28:04] Johnny, just a pretty face in dreams, basically.

[00:28:07] Although, you know, this film better,

[00:28:10] but I still feel like the gaping hole was,

[00:28:12] you mentioned character specifically with her.

[00:28:15] Yeah.

[00:28:16] Like, yeah, I needed more from her

[00:28:19] because the final shot of her just giving Paul the stink eye.

[00:28:23] Mm-hmm.

[00:28:24] Kind of like, okay, yeah, let's.

[00:28:27] I need to be able to buy that a little bit more.

[00:28:28] Right, and just, and feel it more whereas, you know,

[00:28:31] her is irritation with Paul, mine's irritation

[00:28:34] with the movie because it's just setting up

[00:28:36] franchise development for possibly this third

[00:28:38] maybe that they're gonna do.

[00:28:39] So yeah, it good, not as high on it as you are.

[00:28:44] But still, it's worth saying, and if you like the first one you are going to like this

[00:28:47] Oh, no, I think that's a pretty safe thing to say if you like the first part of this

[00:28:51] Yes, you're going to love the second one because I do think it's better

[00:28:54] It is more it is definitely catered more for the theater experience. I'd agree with you. I think you could see it in the theater

[00:29:02] and

[00:29:04] just you're a fan of you know

[00:29:07] Epic sci-fi work. I mean, this is a great example of it. Right. Again visually. I cannot overstate how

[00:29:16] Impressive I thought it was watching this film. I mean villainy who have such a way of

[00:29:21] Making his effects and making what you see on the screen feel real. You know it's like yeah perfect example there was a trailer that played

[00:29:30] before this movie okay it was a trailer I have played on this show. It is one

[00:29:35] that I jokingly say I'm looking forward to although I only look forward to it

[00:29:39] because it has a certain couple characters in it that I'm a big fan of

[00:29:42] but this movie looks like garbage.

[00:29:45] Is it the Ghostbusters?

[00:29:46] No.

[00:29:47] It is the Godzilla in Kong team up movie.

[00:29:51] Oh, so.

[00:29:52] As much as I love my King Kong

[00:29:53] and I love my Godzilla, this movie looks horrible.

[00:29:56] I'm already dreading this movie.

[00:29:58] Okay.

[00:29:59] And that trailer played beforehand,

[00:30:01] and I'm talking to somebody in the theater,

[00:30:02] it's like, you finish watching Donus, it's like okay this is the way you do that driven

[00:30:09] movies. Okay this is it. You've never felt like I was watching CGI. That con

[00:30:15] versus Godzilla trailer, I felt like that's all I was watching was CGI the

[00:30:19] entire time and it was so artificial. So yes he knows how to make this work and

[00:30:24] it definitely does pay off on the screen and so I'm gonna give it props so artificial. So yes, he knows how to make this work and it definitely does pay off on the screen.

[00:30:26] And so I'm gonna give it props for that.

[00:30:28] There's a couple sequences in this film,

[00:30:30] I think are so much fun and amazing.

[00:30:32] One, sounds as simple as it is,

[00:30:34] but like sniper fire from an enemy ship

[00:30:39] and having to kind of negotiate

[00:30:41] how they're gonna get out of a situation.

[00:30:42] I mean, great, great scene.

[00:30:45] There's the writing of the worm, you know, the first time that Paul does, which was,

[00:30:49] again, watching in a theater with loud sound and just the rumble of everything. It was

[00:30:53] pretty impressive to watch. Yeah, there's just some great, great scenes, great moments

[00:30:59] that I think make this such a fun experience to watch. Again, my only complaint is just not feeling like we really got these characters and we

[00:31:10] really felt like we really had anything invested in them whatsoever.

[00:31:15] Which I think could have been done.

[00:31:16] Could have been done fairly easily.

[00:31:18] Maybe take 10 or 15 minutes of the runtime and just put it towards giving us a little

[00:31:23] bit more to know these characters and would have helped a lot more. So there's still a distance there that Vanu puts up that

[00:31:30] he does in a lot of his films. I think it's a little more evident in Dune, maybe just because

[00:31:34] of the nature of the story of Dune and kind of the way it was written in an original form.

[00:31:39] But I think it could have been I think it could have been handled a little better.

[00:31:42] So, okay, I agree. could have been a little better. So, okay. Yeah. Agreed.

[00:31:45] Are we good on Dune too?

[00:31:46] I think so.

[00:31:47] Dune Part 2, yes.

[00:31:48] Yes.

[00:31:49] So we had Dune, we had Dune Part 2, and then we're assuming we're going to have Dune Messiah.

[00:31:54] I think so, and I think, you know, you can't avoid people who've probably seen social

[00:31:58] media and stuff.

[00:31:59] There's news leaked out about A, how well this second part was doing with like opening

[00:32:03] number stuff.

[00:32:04] But Zendaya saying, yeah, Denny comes knocking,

[00:32:08] I'm going to answer the call to do a third movie.

[00:32:11] And I think he has said he's not opposed to it. However,

[00:32:16] he has other projects that have been like on the back burner that he wants to

[00:32:20] move to the front burner and do before he does do Messiah.

[00:32:23] So I'm like, I'm all for that happening.

[00:32:26] Cause I'm, I like him, but I'm kind of done.

[00:32:29] Like the last thing I want to do is go see do Messiah in a year or two.

[00:32:32] I'd rather, I'd rather have to do some other creative stuff first.

[00:32:36] So I don't know.

[00:32:37] I don't know.

[00:32:38] I don't know how I would feel about anybody else.

[00:32:40] Oh, yeah.

[00:32:41] I'm saying he can do it.

[00:32:42] I just don't want him to do it.

[00:32:43] I want to do some things and take some time and take a Christopher Nolan approach where you do a Batman, you do something else. You yeah I'm saying he can do it I just don't want him to do it. Oh you're saying take some time. Take a Christopher Nolan approach where you do a Batman you

[00:32:48] do something else you do about it that's what I wanted. Okay you're not saying

[00:32:51] that you think somebody else should come in and try to direct this. Okay good

[00:32:55] because I couldn't see that. But I mean look we had to wait what was it three

[00:32:59] years? Yes that's because the actor struck but yeah this is 2024 and 2021

[00:33:04] was when the other one came out.

[00:33:05] But this one was supposed to have come out in 2023.

[00:33:08] Correct.

[00:33:08] So it would have been two, two and a half years distance.

[00:33:10] Correct.

[00:33:11] Okay.

[00:33:12] So I think because of like production timeline, it'll probably be maybe four years because

[00:33:16] like if he's working on another film by the time that gets done, then he starts doing

[00:33:19] this one.

[00:33:20] With what you're talking about, it's supposed to be some time passing.

[00:33:23] There is.

[00:33:24] Then it would work. It works a little better.

[00:33:25] Sure.

[00:33:26] It works a little better.

[00:33:27] Okay, well that is Dune Part Two,

[00:33:29] still playing in theaters, doing really well.

[00:33:31] So it'll be around for a while, I'm sure.

[00:33:33] So we recommend, it is a recommendation

[00:33:35] for both of us.

[00:33:35] Sure.

[00:33:36] Stronger for me, a little less so than for Chris,

[00:33:38] but Chris seemed to be echoing a lot of the same things

[00:33:42] he mentioned about the first one

[00:33:44] as being a little

[00:33:45] also evident in the second version as well. I guess my original letterbox for the first one was

[00:33:50] three. This would probably be three and a half. You know, I liked it better, but still reservations.

[00:33:54] Yeah, and I'm up at a four. And again, it's driven mostly by what I saw on the screen.

[00:34:01] Sure. It's not by what I necessarily felt with the characters. It's what I saw on the screen. Sure, it's not by what I necessarily felt with the characters, it's what I see on the screen

[00:34:07] drove my score and that was enough for me

[00:34:09] to be high on this film.

[00:34:12] Okay, we're gonna take a quick break Chris

[00:34:14] and when we come back, I've got two trailers

[00:34:16] that actually one you are sharing with me,

[00:34:19] which is a little different normally than the one

[00:34:21] popping the trailers off left and right.

[00:34:23] You got a couple trailers of films that are coming out

[00:34:24] that we're gonna check out and talk about and right. Sure. You got a couple trailers of films that are coming out that we're going to check out and

[00:34:25] talk about.

[00:34:27] And then also you're going to have a recommendation for us of a film that you think we might want

[00:34:31] to check out.

[00:34:32] So with that, we're going to go ahead and take a break.

[00:34:35] We'll be right back with foot candle films in just a moment.

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[00:34:56] Hello, and welcome back to Footcandal Films here on the mesh.tv podcast network.

[00:35:03] We had our review of Dune Part 2 earlier in the show.

[00:35:06] But now we're turning our attention to films coming out in the very near future that have

[00:35:11] released what the industry calls trailers, little snippets of the films. You're familiar

[00:35:16] with them. You've all seen them. And we've got two of those, two trailers for films that

[00:35:22] Chris has brought to my attention. So I'll go ahead and say,

[00:35:30] I am familiar at least read about one of these films, not the other one, but I've not seen either of these trailers. So these are going to be new for me. So anything you want to set up on this

[00:35:35] first one, we're going to watch the trailer for a film called Sasquatch Sunset. Anything you want

[00:35:39] to say beforehand or we just want to go right in the way? Sure. I'll go ahead and give a little bit

[00:35:42] about it. But actually, go ahead and watch the chair because I don't want to ruin the surprise for you.

[00:35:46] And then I'll kind of fill it in afterwards.

[00:35:48] So.

[00:35:49] OK.

[00:35:50] Well, let's just watch this trailer.

[00:35:51] Sasquatch Sunset is the name of the film.

[00:35:53] And we'll kind of talk about what it is, what it means,

[00:35:57] once it's done.

[00:35:58] Here we go. Okay. Okay, so I'll fill in a little bit there. Yes, please do. So I eat the film, the

[00:36:32] byliner, tagline for what it's about. A year in the life of a unique family, it

[00:36:37] captures the daily life of the Sasquatch with a level of detail and rigor that is

[00:36:42] simply unforgettable. The directors are

[00:36:45] David Zellner and Nathan Zellner. They did Kimiko the Treasure Hunter, which is a

[00:36:49] film that I remember seeing a while ago, written by David Zellner. Nathan

[00:36:54] Zellner actually is in the film as one of the Sasquatches, but other stars

[00:36:58] people you could recognize their name but probably won't recognize it in the

[00:37:02] film because it can't make up in Sasquatch stuff.

[00:37:06] Jesse Eisenberg and Riley Keough. So, um, yeah, it's

[00:37:11] apparently this premiered at Sundance and people's reactions were kind of all over the place.

[00:37:16] But it seems like something that

[00:37:20] is gonna be funny, maybe raunchy in some ways, because of things that different Sasquatch are doing.

[00:37:25] Apparently there's a lot of flatulence involved sometimes.

[00:37:28] But the kind of odd thing that's funny,

[00:37:31] but I think you can kind of tell from the chair a little bit

[00:37:34] that there may be a lot of poignancy in some things.

[00:37:37] So I don't know, I think it could be interesting.

[00:37:40] So.

[00:37:41] I do think it'll be interesting.

[00:37:43] I'm interested.

[00:37:45] Sure.

[00:37:47] Yeah, I just, I don't know,

[00:37:50] I don't know my feelings on this film yet.

[00:37:52] I mean, just, no, the trailer, it's interesting.

[00:37:54] Sure.

[00:37:55] I don't feel like it gives it too much away.

[00:37:57] No, no, I don't know what the direction

[00:38:01] or the tone of the film is eventually going to end up being,

[00:38:04] which I'm curious about.

[00:38:05] Sure.

[00:38:06] It does appear to be very much a, at least the way they're pitching it is a kind of a day

[00:38:11] in the life kind of following this family.

[00:38:13] It's like a documentary.

[00:38:14] Yeah.

[00:38:16] But the idea that the Sasquatch I have appeared to have more human tendencies than, you know,

[00:38:24] exploring their relationship with humans in general, the human being.

[00:38:28] I don't know. It looks really interesting. I'm always hesitant when it's very curious how this pulls off.

[00:38:47] If there's something interesting here to see.

[00:38:49] And I saw you kind of do a raised eyebrow.

[00:38:52] Executive produced by Ari Aster.

[00:38:54] So it's interesting.

[00:38:55] That's also very interesting too.

[00:38:58] Ari Aster kind of being involved after, you know,

[00:39:01] I mean, Bo is afraid, other films, he made him his own,

[00:39:05] but typically he's, the ones I've seen

[00:39:08] that he's gotten his name attached to,

[00:39:10] there's normally something else there.

[00:39:12] So I guess that's why I'm kind of curious about this film.

[00:39:14] Is there something else there,

[00:39:15] or are we really just gonna watch for 90 plus minutes,

[00:39:19] you know, a family of Sasquatch kind of going

[00:39:21] about their day and, well, anyway, very curious to see.

[00:39:24] Okay, well

[00:39:25] thank you for sharing that trailer. Is there a date for when this film comes out? Oh, I see,

[00:39:31] select the Eaters April 12th and nationwide April 19th. So we got a little over a month on that one

[00:39:37] to see Sasquatch sunset. Be curious to see if it makes it a degree. Don't know.

[00:39:43] Yeah, I don't know.

[00:39:45] Yeah, it's that one that's kind of weird enough.

[00:39:47] It may be too weird.

[00:39:48] But it is April when it's right before stuff starts

[00:39:52] picking up for the summer.

[00:39:53] And it has Jesse, I mean, not that Jesse Eisenberg

[00:39:55] is a Tom Cruise, but it does have a name.

[00:39:59] So yeah, I don't know.

[00:40:00] A name.

[00:40:00] I really have face,

[00:40:02] because you can't really see this face.

[00:40:03] True.

[00:40:04] Yeah.

[00:40:07] Okay, Chris, Sasquatch Sunset got it. Now we got a second trailer that we're going to watch.

[00:40:10] This is for a film from 824, our favorite studio.

[00:40:14] And it is the film.

[00:40:15] The title is I saw the TV glow.

[00:40:18] Anything you want to set up on this or we just going to jump right into it as well?

[00:40:21] Let's jump right into it.

[00:40:22] I think it works.

[00:40:23] Here we go.

[00:40:23] I saw the TV glow.

[00:40:27] I know this might sound crazy.

[00:40:30] I don't wanna alarm you.

[00:40:32] Do you remember a TV show we used to watch together?

[00:40:36] It was called...

[00:40:37] The Think of a Bake?

[00:40:41] Yeah.

[00:40:43] Do you watch?

[00:40:41] Can you think of it? Yeah.

[00:40:42] Do you watch?

[00:40:52] Each episode, they help each other fight a new monster

[00:40:54] from across the county.

[00:40:55] But it's way too scary for most kids.

[00:40:58] We're going to defeat him this time.

[00:41:00] We're going to need to harness the full potential

[00:41:01] of our shared powers.

[00:41:14] All right, that is is I saw the TV glow from 824 studios. This one's coming out May 3rd in theaters.

[00:41:24] Director Jane Schoninburn with Justice Smith in a lead role. Interesting, he's a, he's doing a lot of work right now.

[00:41:25] So he's got a couple of films coming out here

[00:41:27] in the next few months.

[00:41:29] I remember seeing him in,

[00:41:31] he was in Jurassic Park.

[00:41:33] I think so, but he was in the Dungeons and Dragons movie.

[00:41:36] He was just that as well.

[00:41:37] Thought he was pretty good in that.

[00:41:38] And it was a fun little movie.

[00:41:40] So anyway, Chris, any notes on this one?

[00:41:43] Well, background, things we know to be aware of.

[00:41:45] So you mentioned the writer and director

[00:41:47] and this is their second film.

[00:41:49] Okay.

[00:41:50] They made, we're all going to the world's fair.

[00:41:53] Oh, right, right.

[00:41:54] And that was also a horror film,

[00:41:56] but I don't think A24 was involved, much lower budget.

[00:42:01] And it had a little, it was basically dealing with like online

[00:42:05] basically it was like an online game that people would go play very kind of

[00:42:09] like Slender Man in some ways but it used a lot of kind of the same color

[00:42:13] palette that apparently this film uses which is like a lot of day glow neon

[00:42:17] colors and that was also evident and we're all going to the world sphere that

[00:42:22] one unfortunately I appreciated the atmosphere it created,

[00:42:26] but the story kind of left me a little flat.

[00:42:29] So, but this one seems like, you know,

[00:42:32] I think, but you could see potential.

[00:42:34] And I think, you know, H24 or other people's like,

[00:42:37] okay, you know, that was interesting enough.

[00:42:39] Here's some money.

[00:42:40] Horror does well in today's movie environment.

[00:42:43] Horror tend to do well. So

[00:42:45] we're gonna give you some money and we want you to, you know, this is a TV show

[00:42:50] as you can tell from the title that these people are kind of obsessed with. The

[00:42:53] kind of general synopsis is two teenagers bond over their love of a

[00:42:58] supernatural TV show but it is mysteriously canceled. So that's, so it

[00:43:04] looks interesting to me and based on, yeah, even though I was

[00:43:08] a little frustrated with the first film that Jane Sherman did, I'm like, okay, yeah, I'm willing

[00:43:14] to give this a shot. It looks pretty interesting. And the trailer, if you were to actually watch it,

[00:43:21] they kind of say at the end all these different people that are involved in kind of making this soundtrack, Phoebe Bridgers as well, then the soundtrack does sound kind of cool,

[00:43:29] which can help carry a movie a lot of times.

[00:43:31] So I don't know.

[00:43:32] I am definitely curious.

[00:43:34] Interestingly enough, it's A24.

[00:43:38] They have it pegged on IMDB as drama horror.

[00:43:44] It's PG-13, which is interesting to me

[00:43:48] I just now noticed that actually I just started as PG-13 picked that but I know okay, so yeah, no

[00:43:54] I'm very curious. Okay, very very curious. I think it looks it looks

[00:43:59] Very well done. Okay, so we'll see how it actually plays help, but um, okay

[00:44:04] That is I saw the TV glow that is again coming out. It looks like in theaters May 3rd

[00:44:10] Don't know if that's a wide release or not, but um

[00:44:14] May 3rd is the date for that film to be out. So

[00:44:18] All right Chris, well good to two interesting films very unique films that we will be watching and exploring over the next couple of months

[00:44:25] to see how they turn out.

[00:44:28] All right, now we flip over to the part of the show

[00:44:31] where Chris gives his patented recommendation.

[00:44:34] We need a jingle, we need something

[00:44:36] that can all set this all up since we've been doing so often.

[00:44:38] But Chris, you tend to like to have recommendations

[00:44:42] of films that you think people might wanna check out

[00:44:44] or maybe could be little overlooked films, or maybe ones that we've forgotten about,

[00:44:50] or whatever it may be. What do you have to share with us today as a recommendation?

[00:44:55] So I'm going to recommend a film called Yodorowsky, which is the name of a director,

[00:45:01] Alejandro Yodorowsky, but Yodorowsky's Dune. This is a documentary. Okay. Came out in 2013.

[00:45:08] I've never heard of it. And then a couple of years ago, I heard somebody mention it on a podcast. And

[00:45:14] essentially, it is a documentary about a version of Dune that never got made. And it was attempting to be

[00:45:20] made before David Lynch's version. Okay. Alejandro Yodorowsky, I wasn't really familiar with him,

[00:45:26] but he's done films like Santa San Gray,

[00:45:29] El Topo, Holy Mountain, none of which I have seen.

[00:45:32] But he's acclaimed and he has these crazy,

[00:45:36] oftentimes visions of making films.

[00:45:39] Well, that's what he had with Yodorowsky's,

[00:45:41] or with Dune, is he had all these grand ideas.

[00:45:44] He got HR Geiger involved, who did a lot of work for

[00:45:48] alien franchise movie, a lot of the art and production design stuff.

[00:45:51] He got him involved. He got all these different people involved

[00:45:55] and they spent a long time over two years and millions of dollars doing all

[00:46:00] this pre-production. At one point they were were gonna have Salvador Dali in the film.

[00:46:06] I'm actually playing the emperor role that you see.

[00:46:11] So all this crazy, crazy stuff.

[00:46:14] He actually made a book.

[00:46:16] There's like a production book.

[00:46:17] It's like a huge volume dictionary looking book

[00:46:20] of all this production artwork and stuff

[00:46:21] that apparently only like three or four were ever made.

[00:46:24] I wish I could actually see that book. But it's just all this fascinating stuff

[00:46:29] about behind the scenes of movie making and then things that just fall apart. Basically,

[00:46:34] I think ultimately financing fell apart and it went away. But yeah, Yodorowsky is an interesting

[00:46:42] odd fellow, but it's an interesting documentary.

[00:46:46] Yeah, it's not maybe the highest production value

[00:46:49] made of the documentary, but if you're interested

[00:46:51] in kind of movie making, and maybe, I think actually,

[00:46:55] if you wanted the truth, somewhere between

[00:46:57] Denny Vell-Nouve's Dune and David Lynch's Dune

[00:47:02] is a film that I feel like would be the perfect Dune movie.

[00:47:06] And I'm not saying this film would be perfect, but the type of visuals that he had in mind,

[00:47:10] like maybe a combination of all three would actually make it a really, because his movie would

[00:47:16] have brought back a lot of the weirdness of David Lynch's maybe and kept, I don't know,

[00:47:21] it's just, it's, I thought it was pretty fascinating, but yeah.

[00:47:25] So if you're interested in Dune or interested in movies

[00:47:28] that don't ever get made, and then this, yeah,

[00:47:30] ultimately he saw Dune get made,

[00:47:34] and he first didn't wanna see it,

[00:47:36] but then he went to go see it and he was mad

[00:47:38] at like what happened to the story, but he's like,

[00:47:40] but he doesn't blame David Lynch because he's just like,

[00:47:43] I know how studios take over and it wasn't the vision.

[00:47:46] So interesting.

[00:47:47] Anyways, it's playing on HBO Max or Max, so where you can stream it for free because

[00:47:52] the reason I'd wanted to see it for a while, but it wasn't available for a long time or

[00:47:57] like you had to, I'd had problems trying to find a place to rent it, which I think you

[00:48:00] can rent it.

[00:48:01] But if you have Max or HBO Max, you can stream it there for free.

[00:48:05] So it's Yodiralski's Dune. Yodiralski's Dune. All right. On HBO or Max, whatever. Sure. Okay.

[00:48:13] Yeah, no, I had heard about that documentary a while back, and I'd heard about that project in

[00:48:18] general. There's been, there's been like all the lore on like, you know, movie sites talking about

[00:48:23] the history of the Dune films

[00:48:25] and different attempts to make adaptations.

[00:48:28] So I've always been curious

[00:48:29] and now this documentary sounds really, really interesting.

[00:48:32] And the more I think about it,

[00:48:33] I think there are little threads that appeared,

[00:48:38] maybe not in Lynch's version, but in Villeneuve's version,

[00:48:40] I feel like maybe they're little things

[00:48:42] that he's kind of paying tribute to

[00:48:45] with the original vision that Yodarowski had.

[00:48:47] And actually, one of the points Yodarowski makes is

[00:48:51] he kind of feels like a lot of science films,

[00:48:54] science fiction films owe a lot to his vision

[00:48:57] because his version didn't get made,

[00:48:59] but then those ideas were seen by creatives

[00:49:01] and then kind of like torn away and put in other films.

[00:49:04] Sure, I can see that. It's interesting

[00:49:06] Okay, great. Well good recommendation on max the streaming service max

[00:49:12] Available to watch now if you have a subscription for that

[00:49:15] All right, Chris. Well, I think that wraps it up for us. We had our review of dune part two

[00:49:20] We had trailers that we dissected for Sasquatch Sunset and for I saw the TV glow, both of

[00:49:28] those coming out over the next 30 to 60 days from the time of this recording.

[00:49:34] And then Chris's recommendation there, as he just mentioned, of a film to check out,

[00:49:37] or a documentary to check out.

[00:49:39] So Chris, if anybody has any feedback for us, questions, responses, reactions, anything along those

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