Conclave

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[00:00:33] Hello and welcome to Footcandle Films here on The MESH.TV Podcast Network.

[00:00:38] My name is Alan Jackson. With me, Chris Fry.

[00:00:42] We are with the Footcandle Film Society and the annual Footcandle Film Festival.

[00:00:47] Chris, how's it going? Happy Halloween. It's the Hallows' Eve Eve, right?

[00:00:53] Sure.

[00:00:54] Because Halloween, Hallows' Eve is supposed to be like the eve before. This is the eve before Hallows' Eve.

[00:01:00] Right. Sure.

[00:01:00] And I know All Saints' Day is November 1st. That I do know.

[00:01:04] And that's what the Hallows' Eve refers to, is the eve before All Saints' Day. Maybe.

[00:01:09] Maybe. Something like that.

[00:01:11] It's October 30th. That's what I basically am trying to say in a not-so-clever way.

[00:01:15] So, are you doing okay?

[00:01:17] I'm doing well. Yeah, fresh off the screening of our film that we're going to be reviewing today.

[00:01:22] So, it's nice.

[00:01:23] Oh, yeah. You just saw this last night.

[00:01:24] Yes. So, thoughts are fresh, which is nice.

[00:01:27] Mine have percolated longer. I did see it on Sunday, opening weekend, and saw it with a very interesting crowd.

[00:01:36] Okay.

[00:01:37] Maybe we'll talk about that in the review a little bit.

[00:01:38] The film we're alluding to right now is the film Conclave.

[00:01:42] Conclave. That is by director Edward Berger, starring Mr. Ray Fiennes, Stanley Tucci, and John Lithgow.

[00:01:49] We're going to be reviewing that film Conclave here in just a few moments, followed by, you know, we try to do news and trailers whenever we get together and record Chris.

[00:01:59] And normally, I'm pretty excited to, like, share the news I've got or the trailer I'm really excited about.

[00:02:04] I don't really have a lot this week.

[00:02:05] Okay.

[00:02:05] It's kind of weak.

[00:02:07] Well, you're going to be excited about the recommendation I'm going to do.

[00:02:09] Okay, good. I'll look forward to your recommendation at the end of the episode.

[00:02:12] But just to know, some weak sauce coming out the news section here in the middle of the show.

[00:02:17] But we'll see.

[00:02:18] We'll bring it back up with the recommendation then.

[00:02:20] As Chris is saying, yes, at the end of the show, he will have a recommendation for us of a film that he recently caught back up with and wants to share or have everybody check out if they are looking for something to watch in the coming days or weeks.

[00:02:35] So, Chris, I say let's jump right into our review because I am kind of curious to see some thoughts on this film.

[00:02:43] This is the film Conclave.

[00:02:44] Let's go ahead and talk about it right now.

[00:02:48] The Pope is dead.

[00:02:50] The throne is vacant.

[00:02:53] The Conclave begins now.

[00:02:56] We're about to choose the most famous man in the world.

[00:02:59] And one and a quarter billion souls watching.

[00:03:02] Let's say this is a pretty fair vision of hell.

[00:03:05] Well, don't be blasphemous, Ray.

[00:03:07] Hell arrives tomorrow when we bring in the Contents.

[00:03:11] No sane man would want the lab to see.

[00:03:13] Some of our colleagues seem to want to.

[00:03:17] The new film by director Edward Berger, which he previously did, All Quiet on the Western Front, well-received Oscar-winning film.

[00:03:24] This one is Conclave.

[00:03:26] It tells the story of Cardinal Lawrence.

[00:03:28] He was played by Ray Fiennes.

[00:03:30] He's tasked with leading one of the world's most secretive and ancient events, selecting a new pope.

[00:03:36] He finds himself at the center of a conspiracy that could shake the very foundation of the Catholic Church.

[00:03:42] This film is rated PG.

[00:03:45] It is two hours.

[00:03:47] So you take something that's PG, but yet is a thriller set in the Vatican where people are just walking and talking.

[00:03:55] Interested to see what your response was to Edward Berger's Conclave starring Mr. Ray Fiennes.

[00:04:02] Yeah.

[00:04:03] Um, yeah.

[00:04:05] No, yeah.

[00:04:06] I, I, um, yes.

[00:04:09] Okay.

[00:04:10] I like this film.

[00:04:13] Okay.

[00:04:14] Yeah.

[00:04:14] Sounds like a little bit of a hesitant like.

[00:04:16] Well, a little bit.

[00:04:17] I'll tell you, this, uh, this film does several things right.

[00:04:22] And for those reasons, I liked the film.

[00:04:26] Okay.

[00:04:26] There are some things this film did wrong that I'm slightly disappointed in, but not enough to, to stay, to take me off of the positive side of the.

[00:04:39] Gotcha.

[00:04:39] See, this is, this is going to be a good review because I've just seen it and my thoughts are very like, you know, just kind of gut reaction.

[00:04:47] Whereas you've had time to think and kind of mull it over.

[00:04:49] So this is, yeah, this is, this is going to be good.

[00:04:52] So continue.

[00:04:52] Okay.

[00:04:53] So I'm a fan of any film that explores a world, a culture, traditions, the nuances of how something works that I'm not overly familiar with.

[00:05:08] Okay.

[00:05:08] And this film, as you gave in the little summary, uh, it is talking about the, uh, selecting a new Pope, which in itself doesn't sound like it would be the most dramatic or most interesting thing in the world.

[00:05:21] But to conclave's credit, it does make it very interesting.

[00:05:26] And even dare say a bit of a thriller to it, which I would not have expected with the, uh, selection of a Pope process, but they did.

[00:05:35] And for that, I give them credit because I do think they were able to take a, Hey, we're just going to be voting the whole movie.

[00:05:44] It's just going to be people sitting down and voting, but we made it interesting.

[00:05:49] It's interesting on several fronts.

[00:05:50] Interesting in that they do a really great job of showing you how this process works.

[00:05:54] I do feel like I'm a lot more aware of how this would all work and curious about it and kind of want to actually learn a little bit more about it based on this film.

[00:06:04] And I do think they actually made it generally as thrilling as you can make a people sitting down and scribbling names on a sheet of paper and dropping them in a bucket.

[00:06:13] Sure.

[00:06:14] It worked.

[00:06:15] They made it interesting and thrilling by the end.

[00:06:17] Okay.

[00:06:17] Um, they, they cast the right people.

[00:06:21] Oh, okay.

[00:06:23] I think that was a positive of the film.

[00:06:24] I think Ray fines is really good.

[00:06:27] I really liked his, his role in this, this actually everybody I thought was great.

[00:06:32] Um, gave them very distinct personalities that, you know, you can really start to understand these characters because this is just a talking film.

[00:06:42] It is people in hallways.

[00:06:43] It is people in large rooms and in small rooms just talking.

[00:06:48] And that's really what this film does.

[00:06:49] But you get a sense within the first quarter of the film, you start to know who these different characters are.

[00:06:56] And I think it's all due to the writing and the actors that kind of help them give a character name to them.

[00:07:01] I think it helps.

[00:07:01] It's like you kind of mentioned at the top of the show.

[00:07:04] It's based on a book.

[00:07:05] And I feel like, yeah, I feel like that.

[00:07:07] I mean, not that, you know, you still got to write it, make a good script out of it.

[00:07:10] But I think that helps because obviously I would assume the book's pretty strong.

[00:07:15] Yeah.

[00:07:15] So, um, so yeah, there's a lot of good factors going into the film.

[00:07:19] Okay.

[00:07:21] Um, I will want to talk about the ending.

[00:07:24] Okay.

[00:07:25] Because I think the film maybe made a choice and presented it in a way that it just didn't work for me.

[00:07:34] Um, but anyway, we can get to that.

[00:07:37] I don't want to spoil it because it is, they are marketing this film as having a quote twist or whatever.

[00:07:42] Right.

[00:07:42] And I'm like, okay, that's where I feel like it stumbles.

[00:07:46] I think it's trying to be a film that it, it didn't warrant being up to that point yet.

[00:07:52] Um, didn't need to be at that point, but anyway, we'll talk about that a little bit later.

[00:07:57] That's a very more specific.

[00:07:59] Sure.

[00:07:59] I want to turn it over to you because I'm, I'm positive on this film.

[00:08:02] I did enjoy it.

[00:08:03] I had a good time with it.

[00:08:04] I do think it's really interesting.

[00:08:06] I think it's well acted.

[00:08:06] Will, well shot.

[00:08:07] Well made really good.

[00:08:09] I just think they make some decisions in the storytelling late in the film that I did not agree with.

[00:08:16] But Chris, tell me your thoughts on Conclave.

[00:08:19] So it sounds like we're on the same page with the acting.

[00:08:22] Um, I thought, yeah, just well cast across the board.

[00:08:25] I appreciated the cinematography too of the film.

[00:08:28] Um, just the, the look of it and making as much as you could people walking across a courtyard or old decrepit buildings sometimes.

[00:08:37] Cause they show like these older buildings, which I don't know if they're really in Rome or not, but they look like they could be in the Vatican.

[00:08:43] Um, doing a good job of making things as visually interesting as possible.

[00:08:49] Um, you mentioned it based on a book, but if this had been a play, which I could see how it could be.

[00:08:54] Oh yeah, absolutely.

[00:08:55] Um, yeah.

[00:08:56] And making the use of the cinematic language.

[00:08:59] Yes, this does.

[00:08:59] I mean, even in a trailer, you see shots of like people, uh, popes or cardinals don't.

[00:09:04] Yeah.

[00:09:05] Guess they're not.

[00:09:05] They're not.

[00:09:06] They're not.

[00:09:06] They're not.

[00:09:07] Um, wanting to be pope.

[00:09:08] Too many popes.

[00:09:09] Too many popes.

[00:09:09] We don't need, we just need one.

[00:09:11] But coming across a courtyard and you see all the little umbrellas and just lots of little

[00:09:15] visual touches that kind of keep you, keep you visually interested.

[00:09:20] So I thought that was good.

[00:09:22] The acting you already talked about.

[00:09:23] Yeah.

[00:09:23] It's really good.

[00:09:25] Um, I couldn't help, which I wonder, I assume this crossed your mind.

[00:09:30] You mentioned weird.

[00:09:32] Here we are October 30th, about a week away from a different type of election for the United

[00:09:37] States of America.

[00:09:38] Yeah.

[00:09:39] Um, this film and I, you know, who knows?

[00:09:42] I mean, I don't, you know, the way productions go, they, you know, do they, and then when they

[00:09:45] release things, this film just came out October 25th.

[00:09:48] Don't know if, I mean, it was at festivals before that, but don't know if the release

[00:09:53] time was just in host for Oscars or, you know, award season or whether it was trying to make

[00:09:58] a point, which my wife and I were talking about afterwards.

[00:10:01] She's like, yeah, I liked the film, but I, it was distracting because it was of the political

[00:10:06] nature.

[00:10:07] I'm like, Oh, you're talking about the church.

[00:10:08] I mean, there were positive, but just thinking it's about religion.

[00:10:10] She's like, yeah, but I'm like, no, you're right.

[00:10:12] There's campaigns.

[00:10:14] It's, uh, people.

[00:10:15] You know, doing things to maybe sabotage other people.

[00:10:18] Well, look, there was a line in this film.

[00:10:20] I can't recite the exact verbiage of the line, but I was in a very full theater on a Sunday

[00:10:25] afternoon.

[00:10:27] Um, a much older age group than I typically see in a movie theater, which is great.

[00:10:32] I'm, I'm, I'm happy if a film can get out the different age groups like this.

[00:10:37] Uh, the biggest laugh in the audience has to do with the curtsy.

[00:10:42] Uh, no, no, that was, that, that guy laughed too, but I'm saying like from the line of dialogue

[00:10:45] that kind of surprised me.

[00:10:47] It was a dialogue where one of the people, because again, this whole situation is people

[00:10:51] are trying to decide who they're going to vote for to be the next Pope.

[00:10:54] And there's some internal campaigning going on.

[00:10:56] There are some people like, no, basically it's a down to like three people.

[00:11:00] And it's like, well, I've got to vote for the least of these two just to make sure the

[00:11:05] other person doesn't get it.

[00:11:07] And that erupted some laughs and kind of a, mm-hmm out in the audience with people.

[00:11:12] So again, I knew they were correlating it to our national election too.

[00:11:16] So I, I wouldn't be surprised if the timing was a little intentional with release on this.

[00:11:21] Right.

[00:11:22] Maybe a bit.

[00:11:22] Yeah.

[00:11:23] Um, so I won't give away why it was fine, but I mentioned, cause I want to call Isabella

[00:11:29] Rossellini plays, um, sister Agnes and she's not in the film a lot, but when she does is

[00:11:35] on the screen, she, you know, makes her presence known.

[00:11:37] I thought she was awesome.

[00:11:38] And she does a curtsy, which that got a laugh from our own.

[00:11:42] I mean, it's not that it's funny, but it's just kind of like a, a really good moment.

[00:11:47] But yeah.

[00:11:48] Um, I will say I liked the film.

[00:11:52] Um, it is, you know, it is, I thought it was kind of long and that, you know, it does

[00:11:57] do repetitive voting, but there was enough there that pulled me along that I did like

[00:12:01] it.

[00:12:02] Um, also, unfortunately for me, and I'll put this down to Chris sees too many movies,

[00:12:07] which is why he guesses certain things.

[00:12:12] Um, and I don't know, you know, because I haven't seen the script, if it's highlighted,

[00:12:16] this is twist one, this is twist two, this is twist three.

[00:12:19] Um, the different things that were happening, like the politics, none of that really like

[00:12:23] shocked me or anything like that, which is fine, but it kept me interested.

[00:12:27] Um, I will say, yeah, not, this isn't a spoiler.

[00:12:33] This whole thing's about an election.

[00:12:35] Okay.

[00:12:36] Conclave essentially.

[00:12:37] Uh, the person who gets elected Pope at the end of the film, that does happen.

[00:12:43] They do, they do elect one.

[00:12:44] The white smoke goes up, which I actually remember from a Dan Brown novel.

[00:12:49] Whenever it's black smoke, that means, Hey, we didn't do it.

[00:12:51] White smoke means hooray success.

[00:12:53] Um, which they actually never come out and say, that was an interesting thing about the

[00:12:57] film.

[00:12:58] I mean, like all these different points, but that was something else.

[00:13:01] I, in a way I liked, but in a way I would have liked a little bit more information.

[00:13:06] They kind of, in a way they expect you to know certain things.

[00:13:10] And, but they, I mean, I guess you kind of get it.

[00:13:12] They always talk about how nothing happened.

[00:13:13] You see the black smoke.

[00:13:15] And then when something finally does happen, you see the white smoke.

[00:13:18] But like, if you don't come in, they didn't do, I guess they trust the audience to be,

[00:13:22] which is nice, intelligent enough that like, we're not going to tell you some of the eccentricities

[00:13:29] about this process.

[00:13:30] We're just going to, we're just going to kind of show you stuff and let you kind of

[00:13:33] figure it out.

[00:13:34] We just see them tearing up the ballots, putting them in the little furnace.

[00:13:37] They put the little can in there that I guess has the color kind of smoke effect, but in

[00:13:42] the little furnace.

[00:13:42] And then you see an outside shot and you see some smoke billowing and you either hear people

[00:13:47] clapping outside or it's all happy or you don't.

[00:13:49] So yeah, it doesn't spell it all out for you.

[00:13:52] It does.

[00:13:52] It does require the audience to have a little basic knowledge of the process.

[00:13:56] But I felt like, I felt like it, I felt like it did okay by that.

[00:14:00] I mean, I think you could have figured it out if you were paying attention to what was

[00:14:04] happening.

[00:14:04] And I was kind of surprised that I guess a lesser film may have spelled some more of

[00:14:08] those things out, but they didn't.

[00:14:11] So before I finished, well, basically the person who, to finish the first one I was trying to

[00:14:16] make, the person who gets elected Pope wasn't a surprise to me.

[00:14:21] Correct.

[00:14:21] And I was, I was a little disappointed in that because of the way this person comes into the

[00:14:27] story.

[00:14:28] You're kind of like, okay.

[00:14:29] Yeah.

[00:14:29] And then it's kind of like, yeah, I know where this is.

[00:14:31] It's a little obvious.

[00:14:32] I know where this is going and it goes there.

[00:14:35] However, there was a revelation that you were kind of at the end of the film about some things

[00:14:39] that have happened that you were kind of feel like, and I can see why you think that.

[00:14:44] And it took me by surprise.

[00:14:46] And, but this is a work of fiction.

[00:14:48] This is the, I mean, based on like, I guess how popes are really elected.

[00:14:51] I assume I'm not Catholic, but I assume we've always talked about how we know the smoke is

[00:14:55] right.

[00:14:56] Um, so it's a work of fiction and there's some thing that happened toward the end of

[00:15:01] the film that was, I think was the twist that most people are referring to.

[00:15:04] It is.

[00:15:04] Um, and I understand how people would be like, oh, come on.

[00:15:09] But for me, it worked because it's like, well, that is something interesting.

[00:15:14] And if you take the through line, one of the problems that's in the film, which is why

[00:15:18] you have different, there's Tremblay, who's played by John Lithgow, who has one perspective

[00:15:23] on the papacy or what he wants as the papacy.

[00:15:25] Then you have Adyami, Adyami, Yeme.

[00:15:29] Yeah.

[00:15:29] Yummy.

[00:15:29] Okay.

[00:15:30] So he's, he's another person vying.

[00:15:32] And then you have Tedesco, who's like the Machiavellian kind of guy who basically nobody

[00:15:38] really wants him to get it.

[00:15:40] Cause he's kind of like power seeking, I guess.

[00:15:42] And then you have a couple of others that are vying for the position.

[00:15:45] Stanley Tucci is, Bellini is another one that's in kind of, there are like four or five contenders,

[00:15:50] you know, throughout most of the film.

[00:15:51] Yeah.

[00:15:51] Right.

[00:15:52] And, um, so I, but one of the things, which is why you have the different, different factions

[00:15:59] vying is there's a perception of how the Catholic church has gone over the past 30 or 40 years,

[00:16:05] they, you know, making progression.

[00:16:07] And they mentioned things like come to terms with how the Catholic church acted in world

[00:16:12] war two, come to terms with the scandals about the sexual abuse.

[00:16:15] And they mentioned these things about certain, and, uh, trying to stretch towards diversity

[00:16:22] and different, they mentioned these different things.

[00:16:24] And so, but then Tedesco specifically, who I think is Italian or comes across.

[00:16:29] Yeah.

[00:16:29] He's Italian.

[00:16:30] Cause he says this much.

[00:16:31] Um, kind of talks about how wanting to kind of return to traditional things, which I guess

[00:16:39] is how it kind of echoes the election here in the United States.

[00:16:42] Well, that, and then the elect England with the Brexit movement, it's a lot of that same

[00:16:46] idea of having kind of a faction of people that just want to kind of return back to more

[00:16:50] quote, traditional standards for the organization.

[00:16:54] So all that being said, if none of that had been, and I felt like it was done as lightly

[00:17:00] as you can, that kind of stuff, especially you just, I think we're kind of hypersensitive

[00:17:04] to it because of the time we're living in.

[00:17:06] Um, but all that said, if that hadn't been handled, I felt like as well as it was, then

[00:17:13] the thing at the end that happens, I'm like, okay.

[00:17:15] And I, it is, it is a stretch, but this is a fiction film.

[00:17:19] So it worked for me because of that.

[00:17:21] And I'm like, okay, that's interesting.

[00:17:22] And that's a leap that I would have never, ever, ever, ever, ever seen coming.

[00:17:26] No, I, I don't have an issue with the uniqueness of the reveal that we get.

[00:17:36] And sure enough, I mean,

[00:17:38] You feel like it was rushed maybe?

[00:17:39] It feels a little rushed and I don't feel like they really tied it in with what, what

[00:17:44] it really meant, like what it really meant for the rest of the film.

[00:17:47] I didn't feel like, because it's, it's the whole going the whole way of the film seems

[00:17:55] to be adopting kind of this, this idea of the notion of power and who should possess power

[00:18:02] and what, what method should we be using for choosing people that have power?

[00:18:07] You know, that's to me kind of, I think the whole concept of the whole traditional values

[00:18:12] and how the church is moving forward, it's touched on, it's talked about, but it doesn't

[00:18:15] seem to be a real driving factor of how people are actually making these decisions.

[00:18:20] It really is based on power.

[00:18:23] It's all about who really, because even there's conversation about the votes all going towards

[00:18:28] a certain other person.

[00:18:30] That's not one of the ones we mentioned that I thought was a little surprising that this

[00:18:34] person was now being actually a consideration.

[00:18:37] And I thought that was an interesting little kind of, I didn't know where the film was

[00:18:40] going to go because it's different than what I expected.

[00:18:44] It was good.

[00:18:45] It's just, I feel like the way the film presented that ending, it had something it wanted to

[00:18:51] say with that ending, but I don't feel like it really had any, it felt like it just kind

[00:18:57] of came out of left field and it stayed in left field, you know, for the film.

[00:19:02] Okay.

[00:19:02] It's almost like, okay, we're being hit with this revelation.

[00:19:05] I was fine with the uniqueness of that revelation.

[00:19:10] I think some people are like, oh, I, I, that's so out of, that's so out of left field, whatever.

[00:19:15] I'm like, I'm fine with it being out of left field.

[00:19:17] Gotcha.

[00:19:17] Just once you bring it out of left field, bring it to center plate, bring it to the rest

[00:19:21] of the field and kind of let it interact with the rest of the film in a way.

[00:19:24] So I understand kind of the, why, why, why was it important for you as a writer to bring

[00:19:31] that element in, to bring this revelation in?

[00:19:33] And I just didn't feel like it kind of landed.

[00:19:36] I'm using my baseball.

[00:19:37] I stayed up last night watching the baseball game.

[00:19:39] So I've got a lot of baseball references to making the film.

[00:19:41] Sorry about that.

[00:19:43] That was my only take on it.

[00:19:45] It's just like when the revelation came out, I'm like, oh, that's interesting.

[00:19:50] Now tell me why in the scope of this film, it matters.

[00:19:54] Let's see.

[00:19:54] And I didn't, I didn't, I didn't see the connection.

[00:19:56] That was just me.

[00:19:57] I didn't, I didn't see the connection.

[00:19:59] I didn't see the impact of why this needed to be part of this story.

[00:20:05] Anyway, that was just, that was, that was my only take on it.

[00:20:08] I just felt like it was a interesting revelation.

[00:20:10] Maybe the book wove it in to a deeper level to kind of make it more of a symbolic nature

[00:20:16] commentary on everything we've been seeing for the past two hours.

[00:20:19] But I didn't see the, again, it came out of left field.

[00:20:23] And I just felt like it was stayed in left field.

[00:20:25] And I didn't understand its purpose in the rest of the film as a whole.

[00:20:30] So that's it.

[00:20:31] Yeah.

[00:20:31] Okay.

[00:20:32] Um, it, I guess it surprised me, but it does, it, I guess it overall, it worked better for

[00:20:38] me.

[00:20:38] And I'm not sure.

[00:20:40] I think because I felt like it wove in some of the themes that had been touched on earlier.

[00:20:45] Yeah.

[00:20:46] And I, I felt like those themes were sure touched on, but I never felt like the themes

[00:20:49] really became the film.

[00:20:51] Those that, that particular theme.

[00:20:53] And I know we're, we're dancing around stuff.

[00:20:55] Yeah.

[00:20:55] I never felt like that particular theme and topic of conversation ever became any kind

[00:21:01] of real driving factor in the rest of the film.

[00:21:03] Everything's still just boiled down to who do we want to have in power?

[00:21:08] Who do we want to have run in this thing?

[00:21:09] Who's willing to do, who's clean?

[00:21:11] Who's, who doesn't have a, uh, uh, uh, back reputation.

[00:21:17] Skeleton in the closet.

[00:21:18] Because so much of the film is about, okay, we think we got somebody and now we need to

[00:21:22] make sure that we're not missing something.

[00:21:24] And oh, okay.

[00:21:25] Now we're finding out something's being missed and, or there's something coming out.

[00:21:29] And again, I loved it.

[00:21:31] I think it was great.

[00:21:32] It's just, and then when you bring in this twist that does have a lot of social commentary

[00:21:38] and a lot of commentary on the church itself, I'm like, yeah, I just, and look, I buy it.

[00:21:43] I'm all for it.

[00:21:44] I just, I just don't see how it, I don't see how it relates to the rest of the film.

[00:21:49] I felt like it was just a little carved out a little bit.

[00:21:52] And again, my hopes are in the book that there's more of a tie in with the themes, um, deeper

[00:21:58] themes.

[00:21:59] That's it.

[00:21:59] I say, so I was fine with the ending.

[00:22:02] I just felt like it was a bit of a missed opportunity and I didn't quite understand this,

[00:22:06] this, the symbolic nature of it that they were wanting to weave in with the bigger film

[00:22:10] as a whole.

[00:22:11] I felt, you know, overall, I liked, I liked the film.

[00:22:14] Um, I do feel, you know, for a walking and talking movie, they, they did keep me engaged,

[00:22:19] but I feel like it could have been a little tighter.

[00:22:21] Sure.

[00:22:22] Um, which I'm always going to say anytime a movie is like two hours, I'm like, okay, you

[00:22:25] know, turn it down a little bit, maybe.

[00:22:26] Um, I'll say the one part I didn't buy and they actually show this in the trailer.

[00:22:33] Oh.

[00:22:33] Um, and it just, there again, you know, you're talking about the ending and you're kind of

[00:22:37] like, if it was better handled in the book, I'd probably buy it a little more.

[00:22:40] Um, I'm imagining this is kind of better handled in the book.

[00:22:45] Um, but they show this in the trailer.

[00:22:46] So I'm not ruining anything.

[00:22:47] Uh, Ray Fines as Laura, um, the Lawrence character, he decides, which I thought was kind of shocking

[00:22:55] and there are no repercussions for him doing this.

[00:22:57] Apparently whenever a Pope dies, they like seal off his room.

[00:23:00] Yeah.

[00:23:01] He decides to go in there and he breaks the seal, which they have a little wax seal.

[00:23:05] So you can basically tell that nobody's been in this room.

[00:23:07] He decides to go in there and then there are basically no repercussions of that, which I

[00:23:11] was kind of surprised about.

[00:23:13] Um, so that bothered me a little bit, but then he discussed, he makes a discovery while

[00:23:17] he's in there.

[00:23:18] And I thought that was a little like, it was a little, cause everything else in this film

[00:23:23] seems to be very realistic based.

[00:23:26] Like it just seems, I agree with you almost like a documentary.

[00:23:28] And then he makes this discovery and find something.

[00:23:31] You're like, really?

[00:23:32] Wow.

[00:23:32] That's how he found it.

[00:23:33] Well, a, how he found it be the fact that it was even there to begin with.

[00:23:37] It's like, what?

[00:23:39] Why would, why would somebody have done that?

[00:23:41] I don't understand.

[00:23:41] Yeah.

[00:23:42] I'm with you completely on that.

[00:23:43] That did pull me out of the film a bit there and reminded me, honestly, at that

[00:23:47] point I was getting so deep into the, like the process.

[00:23:51] Yeah.

[00:23:52] Right.

[00:23:52] When I saw that, I'm like, Oh, that's right.

[00:23:54] We're watching quote a thriller.

[00:23:56] It's like, it's, it's, it's still here to entertain us primarily.

[00:23:59] So it's got to make it convenient to get to this piece of information.

[00:24:03] And yeah, I didn't buy it, but it did kind of remind me what kind of film we're

[00:24:06] technically trying to watch really at the end of the day.

[00:24:09] So yeah, I agree with you though.

[00:24:11] Okay.

[00:24:12] No, but I, I, I like, I think, you know, it was unique enough.

[00:24:16] It was interesting enough.

[00:24:17] I think, uh, it's a, it's an interesting watch.

[00:24:20] It's a beautiful watch to watch.

[00:24:22] I've done shot extremely well, acted extremely well.

[00:24:24] Great ensemble cast to work with.

[00:24:28] Yeah.

[00:24:28] I, I, I, I felt like it fumbled the ending to some degree, but not enough to me to say

[00:24:34] that I didn't enjoy this film.

[00:24:35] I just, uh, would have liked to have seen that ending handled a little, little, little

[00:24:39] more constructively, a little, little differently.

[00:24:41] But, um, so let me ask you about something we're wrapping up, but I'm, I'm curious.

[00:24:45] This is the second film in a row.

[00:24:47] I mean, you know, piece by piece last week, we talked about how Lego movie, but not really

[00:24:53] a Lego movie.

[00:24:54] It's more of a documentary and like finding an audience for that film.

[00:24:57] Yeah.

[00:24:57] Um, what do you think about the audience?

[00:25:00] Would you just imagine?

[00:25:01] I don't, I haven't read a lot of articles about this.

[00:25:03] I saw it in a theater of six people and we mentioned it's PG.

[00:25:08] Yeah.

[00:25:09] There's no like action sequences or like, obviously there are no sex scenes and like,

[00:25:13] there's no drinking.

[00:25:14] Yeah.

[00:25:15] So that would have been shocking.

[00:25:16] So, you know, it's, do you think, I feel like this is kind of a, I'm happy a film like this

[00:25:22] got made because it's PG and I feel like it's a hard sell.

[00:25:26] Oh yeah.

[00:25:26] Um, you said you did see it with a theater full of people.

[00:25:29] It was a theater full of people.

[00:25:30] And I think, I think that may have been the one full theater showing of this film.

[00:25:34] I mean, seriously, I think it's in the hickory area.

[00:25:36] Sure.

[00:25:36] Um, it's, uh, you know, it's a, it's a double edged sword, Chris.

[00:25:41] I'm always so happy when a film like this does go to a theater and I can watch it in

[00:25:46] a theater experience because I'd much rather prefer to do that.

[00:25:49] Oh, sure.

[00:25:50] But I also wonder why, like, you know, because I don't think the audience is there for this

[00:25:55] film, just like, I don't think it was there for piece by piece last week.

[00:25:58] Um, conclave is a walking, talking, uh, people voting on pieces of paper, learning about

[00:26:05] the Catholic church and the selection of the book.

[00:26:07] It's not a, it's not screaming blockbuster.

[00:26:10] And the fact that it is.

[00:26:11] Thriller enough.

[00:26:12] Maybe.

[00:26:13] I think it was just enough.

[00:26:14] I think, I think we're tapping into the, uh, Da Vinci code, uh, audience from years ago.

[00:26:20] Cause I mean, I, I had a lot of criticisms about that film, that adaptation of a quote thriller

[00:26:25] novel that had a lot more history and process and, you know, uh, adult knowledge sharing

[00:26:33] a tone to it.

[00:26:34] I did not like that film at all.

[00:26:36] I thought, Oh, you're really going to hate my recommendation.

[00:26:38] Sure.

[00:26:39] I'm kidding.

[00:26:39] That is not the recommendation I'm going to.

[00:26:42] I really hated that film.

[00:26:43] Um, because that, that film did not do what this film was able to pull off and it actually

[00:26:48] make the exploration interesting.

[00:26:51] Uh, and plus you had great acting, not to say Tom Hanks.

[00:26:55] Yeah.

[00:26:55] Come on.

[00:26:55] He was kind of sleepwalking through that film.

[00:26:57] Awesome.

[00:26:57] Anyway.

[00:26:58] Uh, what was I saying?

[00:27:01] Shoot.

[00:27:01] I think this is kind of tapped in that audience where people either like hearing about a film

[00:27:06] that's adapted from a book that maybe was a slightly popular book.

[00:27:10] It's probably gotten some, uh, airtime on some higher, higher minded television or radio

[00:27:16] show, some morning talk show, CBS this morning.

[00:27:21] Sunday morning.

[00:27:22] Some show I'm sure has probably done a feature on it.

[00:27:24] And that is bringing out a group of people that only go to the theaters when they're being

[00:27:29] presented with, Hey, here's a film that's interesting.

[00:27:32] And it's based on this famous book and it's got these actors, you know, and a lot of,

[00:27:38] I mean, yeah.

[00:27:38] Lithgow, Tucci.

[00:27:40] Yeah.

[00:27:40] You're not going to be bombarded with profanity left and right.

[00:27:42] Cause it's rated PG.

[00:27:43] I think there's all that.

[00:27:44] It's like, Ooh, this is the kind of people's like, yep.

[00:27:47] Sunday after, after lunch, after church.

[00:27:49] Yep.

[00:27:49] This sounds like the kind of movie we want to go see.

[00:27:51] So I think there's a niche audience for it.

[00:27:54] Is it enough to put this anywhere near the top of the box office?

[00:27:58] No, not anywhere at all.

[00:27:59] But if the theater can figure out how to cater to those niche audiences and still make money

[00:28:03] from their movies, then.

[00:28:05] Okay.

[00:28:05] Now, last thing I'll do too is Alan, you are gazing into the crystal ball, which since you

[00:28:11] are dressed up as a fortune teller for Halloween, you happen to have one sitting in front.

[00:28:15] I dress up like a fortune teller most days.

[00:28:17] It just happens to now kind of work for this week.

[00:28:20] Yeah.

[00:28:21] Gaze into that crystal ball and tell me whether or not you think this is going to be noticed

[00:28:26] at the Oscars at all.

[00:28:28] I do believe it will.

[00:28:29] You've got several actors.

[00:28:29] This seems like it might be somewhat of a-

[00:28:31] I do believe it will.

[00:28:32] ...prestigi thing because in a way it's like, here's this story and you know, it's like-

[00:28:36] Well, and the main reason I feel like it is, Chris, is that we don't really have a

[00:28:41] lot of big front runners in the Oscar awards category at the moment.

[00:28:45] Okay.

[00:28:46] We really don't.

[00:28:47] I mean, like real quick, top of mind, what's a shoe-in for Oscar buzz right now?

[00:28:52] Just, we're talking acting or picture?

[00:28:54] I mean, challengers.

[00:28:56] Yeah, but I agree, but that was also like an early in the year release.

[00:29:01] It was really early.

[00:29:03] But I mean-

[00:29:05] Challengers, Civil War, although that was divisive, that doesn't mean it can't do it.

[00:29:10] And then Here, which is about to come out, which we might review next week.

[00:29:13] I'm hearing that's no good.

[00:29:15] Really?

[00:29:16] Wait, wait.

[00:29:16] We'll talk about it.

[00:29:17] Yeah, we knew because we're going to review it.

[00:29:18] Okay.

[00:29:19] Because I do want to see it.

[00:29:20] I'm just telling you.

[00:29:21] Your crystal ball is telling you it's no good.

[00:29:24] Yeah, yeah.

[00:29:24] My crystal ball is saying, no, no, no, no, no.

[00:29:26] No, no, no, no.

[00:29:26] That's not going to work.

[00:29:27] Okay, interesting.

[00:29:28] We'll see.

[00:29:28] We'll see.

[00:29:29] All right.

[00:29:29] All right.

[00:29:30] Overall, what I'm trying to say is there's not a lot of front runners.

[00:29:33] Okay.

[00:29:34] So you take a movie like Conclave.

[00:29:36] It's got Ralph Fiennes, who I think is Oscar nomination worthy in this film.

[00:29:42] Okay.

[00:29:43] It's got a cast.

[00:29:44] Is this the year where we have the Ensemble Cast Award or is that still a ways off?

[00:29:48] I can't remember what they're doing.

[00:29:49] Or like a casting award.

[00:29:50] They're doing a casting award.

[00:29:52] See?

[00:29:53] They're going to do stunts like two years from now.

[00:29:57] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[00:29:57] Okay.

[00:29:57] But I think you're right.

[00:29:58] This is the year with the casting.

[00:30:00] I could see that for a nomination for this one too.

[00:30:02] Okay.

[00:30:03] Because that's kind of like almost like saying the ensemble.

[00:30:05] It's like a little bit of recognizing the whole array of the cast.

[00:30:08] I mean, it gives the award to the casting director.

[00:30:11] But yeah, you're right.

[00:30:11] It's like, I got you.

[00:30:12] It is an indication of what we thought about the ensemble.

[00:30:15] Yeah, sure.

[00:30:16] Absolutely.

[00:30:18] So yeah, I could see that.

[00:30:20] I think maybe cinematography.

[00:30:23] Maybe.

[00:30:23] Eh, probably not.

[00:30:25] I probably wouldn't see it for direction quite enough because it's just not really a flashy

[00:30:29] directorial effort.

[00:30:31] Right.

[00:30:32] Writing.

[00:30:33] I could see writing.

[00:30:34] I could see adapted screenplay.

[00:30:35] Sure.

[00:30:35] I could see adapted screenplay for this.

[00:30:37] So yeah, I do think this is going to get some buzz because it does kind of fit those

[00:30:40] categories.

[00:30:41] It is a higher minded film that's got some artistic talent behind it with some well-known

[00:30:48] actors that's covering a very lesser known or lesser explored subject matter.

[00:30:55] And it's blending it with a thriller, but also historical perspective.

[00:30:59] It's a perfect Oscars pick.

[00:31:02] Maybe a little too thriller-ishy for a sweep at the Oscars for being like best picture or

[00:31:09] anything.

[00:31:09] Got you.

[00:31:10] But because of some of the, whether we're going ahead and saying it's intentional, some

[00:31:17] of the reflections of like political type stuff, it'll probably be nominated for a picture

[00:31:21] because of that.

[00:31:22] Because it's like some of the themes.

[00:31:23] Right now as it stands, I mean, I can only think of four or five films that I even think

[00:31:27] are in the competition to be best picture nominees.

[00:31:31] So yeah, this one I think has got a chance in there.

[00:31:34] So I'd be surprised if it didn't at this point, unless there's a couple of films coming out

[00:31:38] in the next two months.

[00:31:39] I'm just not really, nobody's aware of that just kind of come out of nowhere and start

[00:31:43] to get all this acclaim.

[00:31:44] We haven't mentioned, which I think will definitely be a contender for best picture,

[00:31:48] Craven, the hunter.

[00:31:49] So I think that's probably, I don't think you probably forgot about that one, but with Aaron

[00:31:54] Taylor Johnson, he'll probably get a best actor nod as well.

[00:31:57] You know what?

[00:31:58] Look, I'm not going to joke about Craven, the hunter yet.

[00:32:00] Come on.

[00:32:01] I will happily joke about it.

[00:32:04] If I go see it and it's horrible.

[00:32:06] Okay.

[00:32:06] Fair enough.

[00:32:07] I give every film a fair shake.

[00:32:09] Which we should.

[00:32:10] Except for Venom 3.

[00:32:11] I will not go see Venom 3.

[00:32:12] I'm sorry.

[00:32:12] The last dance.

[00:32:13] I saw the first Venom.

[00:32:15] I hated it.

[00:32:16] Okay.

[00:32:16] I did not see the second one and out of a sign of solidarity, I will not go see the third

[00:32:20] one.

[00:32:21] So sorry.

[00:32:22] If Venom 3 is like.

[00:32:23] The most amazing movie.

[00:32:25] If it is the most amazing movie and it sweeps the Oscars, I'm going to feel like the fool

[00:32:29] and so be it.

[00:32:29] I will still stand by my guns on this and I'm not going to see it.

[00:32:32] Fair enough.

[00:32:33] But you're right.

[00:32:34] Yeah.

[00:32:35] There's just not a lot out there on the Oscar side yet.

[00:32:38] I don't think so.

[00:32:39] We will see what happens.

[00:32:40] So signs point to yes.

[00:32:42] I believe so.

[00:32:42] I believe Conclave will get some attention at the Academy Awards this year.

[00:32:47] All right.

[00:32:48] Book it.

[00:32:48] Write it down somewhere.

[00:32:49] I'm going to go on that.

[00:32:50] Okay.

[00:32:51] Well, that is the film Conclave.

[00:32:52] It sounds like Chris and I were both positive on it.

[00:32:54] Yeah.

[00:32:55] I had a little more misgivings on some areas of it than Chris did.

[00:32:58] But overall, we're still positive.

[00:33:00] No, I'm saying look, it's worth a watch.

[00:33:01] It's a good film and interesting film.

[00:33:04] And yeah, I look forward to maybe seeing it again sometime in the future.

[00:33:08] Maybe the ending will hit me differently.

[00:33:10] Kind of if I go in with a different mindset perspective from the first minute.

[00:33:15] Sure.

[00:33:15] Yeah.

[00:33:16] Okay.

[00:33:17] That is Conclave.

[00:33:18] Don't know how much longer it'll be playing in theaters.

[00:33:19] I think it's doing okay for a specialty niche film.

[00:33:24] I think it's doing okay.

[00:33:26] So we'll see how long it sticks around.

[00:33:28] And right now, there's not a lot else in the theater.

[00:33:30] So it might be, theaters might be looking to plug in a screen or two with something like

[00:33:35] this if they can.

[00:33:36] Sure.

[00:33:36] All right.

[00:33:37] Chris, we're going to take a break.

[00:33:38] When we come back, fine.

[00:33:41] I've got some news we'll talk about, I guess.

[00:33:43] We'll spend as little time on that as possible.

[00:33:45] Ouch.

[00:33:46] So we can get to your recommendations and talk about that.

[00:33:49] So we're going to be, the news must be talking about Craven the Hunter then.

[00:33:52] Well, you kind of spoiled it now.

[00:33:54] There was a new trailer for Craven the Hunter.

[00:33:56] I've seen it like twice now at the movie theater.

[00:33:58] Didn't really change my, look, I'm giving it a fair shake.

[00:34:02] Okay.

[00:34:03] Look, I like Aaron Taylor Johnson.

[00:34:06] I am a Spider-Man fan boy, Craven the Hunter.

[00:34:11] I do like him as a classic villain.

[00:34:13] Okay.

[00:34:13] I'm like, all right, bring it on.

[00:34:15] Let's see what happens.

[00:34:16] But nothing I've seen has given me any encouragement, but we'll see.

[00:34:20] Okay.

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[00:34:45] Welcome back to Foot Candle Films here on the Mesh.TV.

[00:34:49] We had our podcast network, Mesh.TV.

[00:34:52] We had our review of Conclave in the first half of the show.

[00:34:55] Both of us coming out positive on the film, even during our little break here.

[00:34:58] I know the break seemed really short to all of you in podcast land.

[00:35:01] Believe me, it was a much longer break here in the actual studio.

[00:35:05] We had this long, in-depth discussion.

[00:35:07] We spoiled every element of the film.

[00:35:08] We talked about it.

[00:35:09] And we've come to an even better understanding of each other's opinion on the film.

[00:35:13] We apologize to our editor for having to cut that out.

[00:35:15] Sorry about that.

[00:35:17] So anyway, we're back after that very short brief break that you heard.

[00:35:21] And we've moved on to our news and trailer section of our show.

[00:35:26] As I mentioned, not a lot going on right now.

[00:35:29] I try to stay on top of this every week, Chris.

[00:35:32] And like I always bookmark any interesting film announcement articles I come across or any

[00:35:37] interesting trailers that sound like something we'd want to check out.

[00:35:41] And I've gotten nothing this week.

[00:35:42] But what I will do is push out just a couple that if nothing else, we can at least explore.

[00:35:50] And I want to get your opinions on for better or for worse.

[00:35:54] So let's do this first.

[00:35:56] Let's do the trailer.

[00:36:00] Where to go with this?

[00:36:01] Okay.

[00:36:02] The Russo brothers.

[00:36:04] Yes.

[00:36:04] They of Marvel fame.

[00:36:08] They did.

[00:36:09] This is Anthony and Joe Russo.

[00:36:11] They did the Captain America Winter Soldier movie.

[00:36:14] They did the Captain America Civil War movie.

[00:36:17] Then they did the two Avengers movies, the Infinity War and Endgame.

[00:36:23] Obviously made some of the biggest blockbusters of all time with those movies.

[00:36:26] They could probably retire and never do anything else.

[00:36:29] Probably so.

[00:36:30] Now, we actually, I think I announced months ago when Marvel made some announcements about

[00:36:35] upcoming films that they were bringing the Russo brothers back.

[00:36:38] The Russo brothers will be doing the next two Avengers movies, which will be coming out like

[00:36:43] in 50 years.

[00:36:45] I don't know when it is.

[00:36:46] It's like in the future.

[00:36:47] Well, considering how, you know, Marvel has kind of had not kind of dropped off after

[00:36:53] Infinity War.

[00:36:53] It doesn't surprise me that they're trying to like, okay, let's try to get some mojo back by

[00:36:57] having Robert Downey Jr. come back, have the Russo brothers come back.

[00:37:01] I can see that.

[00:37:02] Yeah.

[00:37:02] Yeah.

[00:37:03] So that's where we are with them with future projects.

[00:37:08] But in the meantime, they actually made a movie.

[00:37:10] Okay.

[00:37:11] That is going straight to Netflix or a Netflix movie.

[00:37:15] Did they do the Gray Man?

[00:37:16] I think they did.

[00:37:17] Okay.

[00:37:18] Which I did not like.

[00:37:19] No.

[00:37:19] We reviewed it on the show.

[00:37:20] We did review it.

[00:37:21] I think.

[00:37:21] Not a fan.

[00:37:22] Not a fan.

[00:37:22] Yeah.

[00:37:22] Not a huge fan of that one either.

[00:37:24] So that's why I'm a little curious about this one as well.

[00:37:27] So this is a film.

[00:37:28] I've not seen the trailer for this.

[00:37:29] Actually, I'm just now like reading even the byline of the film for the very first time.

[00:37:34] The only reason I brought it to our attention is because A, it is the Russo brothers directing

[00:37:38] it.

[00:37:39] Sure.

[00:37:39] B, it stars a Mr. Chris Pratt and a Miss Millie Bobby Brown.

[00:37:46] Interesting.

[00:37:47] The main reason I'm bringing it up is it does also have Stanley Tucci in it, who we just talked

[00:37:50] about in Conclave.

[00:37:51] So that's my connection to our review.

[00:37:54] Yep.

[00:37:54] Not.

[00:37:54] Is it coming out soon?

[00:37:56] Uh, March.

[00:37:57] Okay.

[00:37:58] Wow.

[00:37:59] Soonish.

[00:37:59] Ish.

[00:38:00] Yeah.

[00:38:00] It also has Kiwan, uh, uh, Kiwan, uh, the guy from short round.

[00:38:07] Yeah.

[00:38:09] I really, I hate the Oscar when he got nominated for everything everywhere all at once.

[00:38:14] Everybody was like all good on like how to say his name.

[00:38:16] Cause we were hearing it so much and now we forgot.

[00:38:18] We forgot because it's been like a couple of years or a year and a half.

[00:38:21] Yeah.

[00:38:22] Anyway, he's in the film.

[00:38:23] Got you.

[00:38:23] Well, cool.

[00:38:24] So what, let's do this.

[00:38:25] Let's watch the trailer for the film and the film's name is the electric state.

[00:38:30] Uh, the byline is not a fan of the title.

[00:38:32] Yeah.

[00:38:33] The byline is quote, an orphan teenager trans traverses the American West with a sweet, but

[00:38:40] mysterious robot and an eccentric drifter in search of her younger brother.

[00:38:47] Okay.

[00:38:48] Okay.

[00:38:49] If this is a kid's movie, it is not a kid's movie.

[00:38:52] Okay.

[00:38:53] I mean like, you know, if it was like Netflix, but it's PG, it's like action or whatever.

[00:38:57] And then I'm like, okay, but otherwise, yeah, that, that sounds, well, let's, the premise

[00:39:02] sounds a little iffy.

[00:39:03] Let's watch the trailer and then we can make our determination of how we feel about the

[00:39:08] electric state.

[00:39:08] This is a Netflix movie directed by Joe and Anthony Russo.

[00:39:12] Um, and, uh, yeah, let's, uh, take a look and see what we got.

[00:39:17] I am curious.

[00:39:24] You sure you want to do this right now?

[00:39:38] All of us have something in common.

[00:39:43] We all lost something after the rebellion.

[00:39:52] Robots lost their freedom.

[00:39:58] All right.

[00:39:58] So that's the trailer for the electric state.

[00:40:02] Chris.

[00:40:02] I don't remember the name of the band who did the song electric Avenue, but that is

[00:40:08] all I can think about hearing the title of that movie.

[00:40:11] You know, what's really funny too.

[00:40:12] You mentioned that this is totally aside.

[00:40:14] They use no Asus song in the trailer.

[00:40:15] They did not use electric Avenue, but electric Avenue was, uh, Eddie Grant.

[00:40:20] Oh yes.

[00:40:22] Funny about that.

[00:40:23] Going back to our review of conclave.

[00:40:25] Every time I hear the word conclave, I sing to myself, the white stripes doing conquest,

[00:40:30] but putting in the word conclave.

[00:40:32] Nice.

[00:40:33] The whole time.

[00:40:34] They, they missed out on an opportunity.

[00:40:35] They did.

[00:40:35] That could have been a great cross promotion.

[00:40:37] That would have been amazing.

[00:40:38] All right.

[00:40:38] Wow.

[00:40:39] Uh, anyway, the electric state Chris.

[00:40:42] So, okay.

[00:40:44] I was ragging on the title.

[00:40:46] I was ragging.

[00:40:46] You know, that sounds like a terrible.

[00:40:47] I feel like it is a little bit of a kid's movie.

[00:40:50] It's PG 13.

[00:40:51] I mean, and it's like going to get your brother.

[00:40:53] And I don't understand if Chris Pratt is the dad of Millie Bobby Brown.

[00:40:56] Why?

[00:40:56] He's like, okay, I'll help you go get your brother.

[00:40:59] He's a drifter.

[00:40:59] He's a drifter.

[00:41:00] So has the tagline lost her whole family.

[00:41:02] Tagline says he's a drifter.

[00:41:04] Okay.

[00:41:04] Fair enough.

[00:41:05] Cause otherwise it's like, dad, you're not a little bit more involved in wanting to find

[00:41:07] your son.

[00:41:08] Okay.

[00:41:09] I got to say, I don't think it looks good, but I admire the weirdness and the oddness

[00:41:19] and the big swing they're taking.

[00:41:21] Just the mere fact like humans lost their connection.

[00:41:23] Okay.

[00:41:24] Whatever.

[00:41:24] But a line in the trailer says robots lost their freedom.

[00:41:28] Yeah.

[00:41:28] And I'm like, okay.

[00:41:29] Well, followed by shots.

[00:41:31] If you like, all right, let's see what you do with the trailer.

[00:41:33] Because again, this is an audio podcast.

[00:41:35] I know you're just listening.

[00:41:36] Yeah.

[00:41:36] There are like scenes of like a robots walking down a, you know, marching down a street,

[00:41:44] you know, all types.

[00:41:45] Yeah.

[00:41:45] It was some interesting choices made with that.

[00:41:48] It, it, it looks ambitious.

[00:41:51] I, um, so I don't know.

[00:41:54] You know, me and giant robots.

[00:41:56] Oh, that, what is the one that I still haven't seen that had Hugh Jackman?

[00:42:00] And it was like real steel.

[00:42:03] Then you gotta see real steel.

[00:42:05] Real steel.

[00:42:06] Yes.

[00:42:06] That's it.

[00:42:07] Great.

[00:42:07] I remember you being a big fan of it.

[00:42:09] Yeah.

[00:42:10] I like Hugh Jackman, right?

[00:42:11] Yeah.

[00:42:11] Hugh Jackman was in that one.

[00:42:12] Okay.

[00:42:13] In Evangeline Lilly.

[00:42:15] Okay.

[00:42:15] Real steel.

[00:42:16] Real steel.

[00:42:17] Cool.

[00:42:18] Uh, no, I like Pacific room too.

[00:42:21] Yeah.

[00:42:22] Okay.

[00:42:22] Maybe not the second one.

[00:42:23] I never saw the second one.

[00:42:25] Okay.

[00:42:25] It was a little disappointing Pacific room, but I still enjoyed it.

[00:42:29] Okay.

[00:42:29] Um, I just like the big, I like the big robot movies.

[00:42:32] Um, and this does have some big robots in it as long as, as well as some small robots.

[00:42:36] So, you know, um, curious, but I don't have high hopes.

[00:42:42] So just because I don't know, I, what is Chris Pratt doing these days?

[00:42:47] It seems like he's just kind of, he's, he's been in a couple of Amazon like action movies.

[00:42:53] I've never seen.

[00:42:54] He has.

[00:42:54] Yeah.

[00:42:55] Um, I don't know.

[00:42:57] Yeah.

[00:42:57] I'm not sure.

[00:42:58] Jurassic Park.

[00:42:59] Right.

[00:43:00] Which I weren't a fan of for those either.

[00:43:02] So really the only thing I've seen Chris Pratt do that I've enjoyed has been Peter Quill

[00:43:06] and, uh, or star Lord and guardians of the galaxy movies.

[00:43:10] Sure.

[00:43:10] But I, I give that more to James Gunn and the writing than I do to, to, to Chris Pratt specifically.

[00:43:15] So we'll see.

[00:43:17] I don't know.

[00:43:18] It's on Netflix.

[00:43:20] It'll be easy to watch.

[00:43:21] There you go.

[00:43:22] We'll see how it turns out.

[00:43:24] Um, yeah, it's just unfortunately both, both Millie Bobby Brown, her being in all the, uh,

[00:43:30] recent Kong Godzilla movies.

[00:43:32] Right.

[00:43:33] Or at least a couple of them.

[00:43:34] She wasn't in the most recent one, but she was in two of them.

[00:43:36] And, and then him and some other throwaway action movies that nobody paid attention to.

[00:43:41] It's not giving me a lot of confidence for what these two are doing.

[00:43:44] I feel sorry for Millie Bobby Brown.

[00:43:46] I like her as an actress.

[00:43:47] I really like her in stranger things, but I feel like in a way stranger things is like

[00:43:54] the worst thing that ever happened to her because it's like, everybody just thinks because

[00:43:58] of the way those were shot.

[00:43:59] Like she's so young and now like they're treating her like she's a younger, like in

[00:44:03] looks like in this movie, it's like a young ish or girl.

[00:44:06] And I'm like, no, she's like, I don't know.

[00:44:09] To me, it's like in theory, she would be like four or five years younger than it looks

[00:44:14] like she appears.

[00:44:14] She is in this movie as opposed to having her be, I don't know.

[00:44:18] I just like, I don't know.

[00:44:19] I feel like, and we're never going to see the next or the final season of stranger

[00:44:23] thing.

[00:44:24] And when it does, it's like these people are all going to be like 40 years old.

[00:44:26] It's going to be really tough.

[00:44:27] So I feel like, I don't know.

[00:44:28] It's weird.

[00:44:29] No, I agree with you.

[00:44:30] I think she's good.

[00:44:31] Oh, yeah.

[00:44:32] Yeah.

[00:44:32] But yeah, I do think stranger things is kind of hampered her a little bit and perception

[00:44:36] can't get away.

[00:44:37] And even in like the Godzilla movie, she's treated as a little kid and it's like, come

[00:44:41] on.

[00:44:41] But yeah, we'll see.

[00:44:43] All right.

[00:44:44] Well, that's the electric state coming on Netflix on March 14th.

[00:44:48] Okay.

[00:44:48] Okay.

[00:44:49] By the Russo brothers.

[00:44:50] Yes.

[00:44:53] This I'm even less interested in, but I mean, that one was interesting.

[00:44:58] I mean, interesting to see your movie.

[00:45:00] You hadn't heard anything about it.

[00:45:03] I am a, I, I do love the original old Zucker brothers comedies.

[00:45:11] Airplane.

[00:45:12] Yes.

[00:45:13] The naked gun.

[00:45:15] Yes.

[00:45:16] Actually, I'm going to say a airplane and airplane too.

[00:45:18] And the original naked gun.

[00:45:20] Okay.

[00:45:21] Really good.

[00:45:22] Really enjoyable.

[00:45:23] I like the absurd comedy.

[00:45:25] It's great.

[00:45:26] Okay.

[00:45:26] The downside of those movies are after they became popular, they spawned a whole bunch

[00:45:33] of crap ones.

[00:45:34] Like basically any movie that became popular for a while there, there was a spoof movie

[00:45:39] of that movie or that genre like done really quickly.

[00:45:44] I don't think I ever saw any of them, Chris.

[00:45:46] I mean, there were ones done for horror movies.

[00:45:48] You didn't see any of the scary movies?

[00:45:50] I did not.

[00:45:51] Okay.

[00:45:51] There were ones based on like the, back when 300 was like a big deal.

[00:45:55] There were like a spoof movies done with like the whole Roman empire.

[00:45:58] Right.

[00:45:59] Gladiator things.

[00:46:01] All of those.

[00:46:01] I never saw any of those other spoof movies.

[00:46:03] I just feel like they all seem like cheap opportunities.

[00:46:07] She'll say, Oh, let's, it's an easy target.

[00:46:09] Let's pick something famous.

[00:46:11] And now we're just going to make fun with kind of crass, uh, shallow jokes and just see

[00:46:15] what we do.

[00:46:16] Sure.

[00:46:16] That may be me branding a movie I've never seen, but I've never heard anybody saying,

[00:46:20] Alan, you need to see the original scary movie.

[00:46:23] Gotcha.

[00:46:25] However, that will not change with this news.

[00:46:28] I still will not plan to see these movies, but the way in brothers, uh, that would be,

[00:46:33] uh, which two way in brothers are we talking about?

[00:46:35] Uh, Marlon Wayans, Sean Wayans and Keenan Iverwins are developing, uh, a new scary movie reboot.

[00:46:45] Huh?

[00:46:46] How many of the, I mean, there were at least three.

[00:46:49] That's a good question.

[00:46:50] I don't know.

[00:46:51] The land brothers are headed back to the world of scary movie reuniting for the first time

[00:46:54] in 18 years.

[00:46:56] Um, so they were all involved with the first two films of the scary movie franchise, but

[00:47:03] I think it went on to do more than just two.

[00:47:05] They definitely had a third one, but maybe they weren't involved with that.

[00:47:08] They're shooting a new scary movie.

[00:47:10] Okay.

[00:47:11] Uh, it's going to be, uh, shooting in 2025.

[00:47:13] So next year, uh, Miramax is behind it and helping, uh, release along with Paramount.

[00:47:19] Hmm.

[00:47:20] Uh, try and see if there's anything of interest.

[00:47:23] You know what would be interesting to me?

[00:47:25] If there's scary movie reboot actually wasn't as much funny as it was like, kind of like,

[00:47:34] kind of if they were somehow able to do kind of like, which is the movie they were originally

[00:47:38] making fun of scream.

[00:47:39] They were making fun of scream when they made scary movie.

[00:47:43] And if they were able to do it, but actually not make fun of it, but somehow have it be a

[00:47:47] hybrid of all these movies, basically do it of the A24 horror movies, you know, like the

[00:47:52] new brand of horror, like that was going to be my question.

[00:47:55] It follows.

[00:47:56] Some are fun of like these new, like, how do you do that?

[00:47:59] That are more like cerebral horror movies as opposed to somebody running around with

[00:48:05] a knife killing people.

[00:48:05] Cause that's what they were making fun of.

[00:48:08] Obviously, you know, they were making fun.

[00:48:10] I mean, the scary movie came about really after the scream.

[00:48:13] Right.

[00:48:13] That's what they were doing.

[00:48:14] Yeah, sure.

[00:48:15] I just don't know how you have fun and how do you parody like mid some are hereditary

[00:48:22] or, I mean, I guess there's ways to do it, but I, they're making it sound like that.

[00:48:27] They're doing this because now's the perfect time to be coming back and lampooning horror

[00:48:30] again.

[00:48:31] I get that because you have, because you have, I mean, you have so many horror movies being

[00:48:38] made now because you can usually make them for cheaper.

[00:48:40] And that was something that actually like after the pandemic, it was like just tons of horror

[00:48:45] movies.

[00:48:45] So I can like, you know, the, the fact that there are three terrifier movies, which I'd

[00:48:50] never seen any of those, but now I've seen the first two.

[00:48:54] Um, I can see how it's like, yeah, it's like, you don't have to have a lot of stars, you

[00:48:58] know, H24 has a kind of house style when they make a horror movie, but still, I, I mean,

[00:49:04] maybe you've convinced me there is an opportunity.

[00:49:06] Well, I still don't plan to watch it, but I'm curious.

[00:49:11] I'm curious what angle they're going to take if they are just making scary movie five, even

[00:49:16] though it's a reboot that one.

[00:49:17] But if they somehow do tweak the kind of formula, I'll be, I don't know.

[00:49:21] I'm curious.

[00:49:23] Okay.

[00:49:23] Well, they can't do scary movie five because they've already done it.

[00:49:26] Okay.

[00:49:26] There've been five scary movies.

[00:49:29] The first two were done by the Wayans family.

[00:49:33] Then for the third one.

[00:49:34] So basically there was a deal made, uh, it sounds like to where Miramax, uh, bought over

[00:49:39] the franchise.

[00:49:40] Okay.

[00:49:41] And it was a Weinstein deal that even the way in brothers now currently now say was a

[00:49:46] bad deal.

[00:49:46] Bad deal.

[00:49:47] They were mad that Miramax took it over and kind of watered down the franchise.

[00:49:51] Supposedly the third one was actually directed by the Zucker brothers.

[00:49:55] Oh, based on ideas from the Wayans brothers.

[00:49:58] Interesting.

[00:49:59] And then the, but nobody, none of them were involved with fourth or fifth ones.

[00:50:03] So, um, so anyway, yeah, um, that's coming.

[00:50:09] Um, sometime soon.

[00:50:11] After 20 years, the Wayans brothers are back to give fans what they've been asking for.

[00:50:16] Have they?

[00:50:18] Okay.

[00:50:19] I returned to the scary movie.

[00:50:21] You said there's not a title for it?

[00:50:22] No.

[00:50:23] They should call it scary movie.

[00:50:26] The reboot.

[00:50:27] That's what they should call it because that actually comments on the whole thing that

[00:50:30] they're doing.

[00:50:30] Like, yeah, if they could do something like that.

[00:50:34] Yeah.

[00:50:35] Scary movie.

[00:50:35] Well, that is, uh, what was happening there.

[00:50:38] So we are in the store.

[00:50:39] So basically I guess what this is a commentary on, like you're saying is that horror films

[00:50:44] have kind of risen back in pop culture to a status point where now we can make fun of

[00:50:50] them again.

[00:50:50] And any exorcist movie has to have Russell Crowe in it.

[00:50:53] Oh yeah, that's right.

[00:50:54] Actually, no, that's, that's the one.

[00:50:57] Cause he was in like three or four of it.

[00:50:58] Like all these, we had the whole news story about how there was a two almost identical

[00:51:04] exorcist based movies starring Russell Crowe that the marketing looked almost identical

[00:51:09] between these two, but these two films have nothing in common with another.

[00:51:13] And it's just hilarious that they're released within a year or so of each other.

[00:51:16] Anyway.

[00:51:17] Yeah.

[00:51:17] Uh, yeah, there may be some opportunities to explore this more from a comedic standpoint,

[00:51:22] but it is kind of the ultimate sign for a genre when you get to the point where there's now

[00:51:28] the lampooning movies of it.

[00:51:31] Obviously you're doing something right in that they feel like there's enough, uh, there's

[00:51:36] enough, uh, there's enough to work with and to do something comical off of and make a spoof

[00:51:41] of.

[00:51:41] So, all right.

[00:51:42] Well, that's what we've got coming up.

[00:51:44] That's it, Chris.

[00:51:44] That's what I have for news.

[00:51:45] Like I said, it wasn't great, but it's what I had for this week.

[00:51:50] Hopefully next week I can rebound and have some better stuff.

[00:51:53] Studios, please put something out.

[00:51:56] Give me, give us something good to sound like it's going to be here, but we'll wait and

[00:52:00] see.

[00:52:00] No, no, no.

[00:52:00] Just something online.

[00:52:01] Just give me something to talk about.

[00:52:02] Give me a, give me an interesting film story.

[00:52:04] Give me an interesting trailer to show.

[00:52:06] I'm all happy to do it.

[00:52:07] Okay.

[00:52:08] So instead what we'll do is we'll kind of roll right into the last section of the

[00:52:11] show, which is the recommendation from Chris.

[00:52:14] Chris, you have a recommendation.

[00:52:15] You teased it earlier in the show.

[00:52:17] I do not know what this recommendation is, but if film, you're going to be a recommendation.

[00:52:20] That you want to recommend for our audience to check out, turn it over to you.

[00:52:24] What you got for us.

[00:52:25] So normally I try to do films that either are newer or that maybe older films, but I

[00:52:30] don't feel like people have seen.

[00:52:31] This is a film that I'm going to recommend that.

[00:52:33] I think you've probably seen it if you've listened, if you're listening to this podcast,

[00:52:37] but you need to rewatch it.

[00:52:39] And if you've never seen it, you definitely need to watch it.

[00:52:42] It's from 2014.

[00:52:44] It stars a performance by Mr.

[00:52:47] Ray Fines, which he did not get nominated for an Oscar, which was an absolute travesty,

[00:52:54] which actually scares me because like, he's so pivotal to this movie.

[00:52:58] And then you're like, oh, he's pivotal to Conclave.

[00:53:00] Surely he's going to like, you know, if the movie gets any nominations, surely he'll be

[00:53:02] one of them.

[00:53:03] I'm talking about Wes Anderson's The Grand Budapest Hotel.

[00:53:08] Um, I liked this movie.

[00:53:11] Okay.

[00:53:11] The first time I saw it, but it was a really odd viewing experience and I, I didn't love

[00:53:15] it as much as I should have.

[00:53:16] And now every subsequent rewatch, I'm just like, oh my gosh, this thing is so good.

[00:53:22] Ray Fines, who plays M Gustave, the concierge at the Grand Budapest Hotel.

[00:53:28] Just, I mean, I, and the thing too, is at the time when he did this,

[00:53:33] I don't think I'd ever really seen him do comedy.

[00:53:36] Yeah.

[00:53:37] That was kind of actually, I think when he got cast in this, it was a little bit of

[00:53:40] a surprise.

[00:53:40] Right.

[00:53:41] Can Ray Fines do this kind of absurdist comedy or, and, and, uh.

[00:53:46] Yeah.

[00:53:46] And he still has a lot of dramatic notes in it, but he just like, he knocks this out

[00:53:52] of the park.

[00:53:52] It is, you know, you have, um, what's his name?

[00:53:57] Jeff Bridges doing the big Lebowski.

[00:53:59] You're like, yeah, I can't see anybody else doing that.

[00:54:00] He took Ray Fines doing M Gustave and Grand Budapest Hotel.

[00:54:05] It's that kind of performance.

[00:54:06] Yes.

[00:54:06] And the fact that it wasn't even, I mean, you know, it's hard to win an Oscar, but he

[00:54:10] wasn't even like nominated for either supporting it.

[00:54:13] Like, oh, such a, such a shame.

[00:54:15] So it's available online.

[00:54:17] You, uh, Peacock, if you subscribe to that service, you can watch it through that.

[00:54:20] Or I'm sure you can rent it almost anywhere.

[00:54:23] Um, Grand Budapest Hotel, such a good film.

[00:54:28] And yeah, just, they're just moments in it too.

[00:54:31] Like I'm going to Zero Mostel.

[00:54:34] Who's played by, uh, who's the actor who plays Zero Mostel?

[00:54:37] Right.

[00:54:38] Or not Zero Mostel, but Zero, the comedian guy.

[00:54:40] Um, what was his name?

[00:54:42] Uh, uh, yes.

[00:54:44] Hold on.

[00:54:45] Hold on, I've got it right here on the tip of my tongue about to tell you who it is.

[00:54:53] Who plays Zero?

[00:54:55] Tony.

[00:54:55] Tony Revolori.

[00:54:56] Revolori.

[00:54:57] Yeah.

[00:54:57] That's what I meant to say.

[00:54:58] Two different times in the film.

[00:55:00] And it's like, he'll do something.

[00:55:02] And Ray Fon's just kind of, as Gustav kind of stops everything.

[00:55:06] He's like, very good.

[00:55:08] Like that.

[00:55:08] And he does it once.

[00:55:09] And you're like, wow, that was such an amazing moment.

[00:55:11] And then later he does the same thing.

[00:55:14] And you're like, wow, you know, it's just, it's such a nice bookended comedic moment.

[00:55:17] And there's several other funny moments in the film, but just really well done.

[00:55:21] And I think you like this film.

[00:55:24] Oh, I do.

[00:55:24] Yeah.

[00:55:25] And I think that was one of the problems with the followup to it.

[00:55:29] French dispatch was this was kind of the same idea in a way story within a story within

[00:55:35] a story.

[00:55:36] French dispatch had several different stories.

[00:55:38] They were all telling this like magazine thing.

[00:55:40] And I think after you had kind of like Wes Anderson's pulp fiction, it was hard to then

[00:55:47] step back and just have, you know, Quentin Tarantino made that.

[00:55:51] And it was like such a monumental movie.

[00:55:52] And he goes on to make it.

[00:55:53] And you're like, well, they're okay, but they're not pulp fiction.

[00:55:55] And it's like, yeah, this is such a culminating film with grand Budapest.

[00:56:00] And then I like French dispatch quite a bit, but I can admit yet.

[00:56:04] Am I going to probably return to it as much as I do grand Budapest?

[00:56:07] No, because I mean, grand Budapest is infinitely watchable where, yeah.

[00:56:14] French dispatch was just, yeah, not as technically now I will say just not to be that guy that's

[00:56:21] correcting you or anything.

[00:56:22] Isle of dogs is a film he did in between, which, okay.

[00:56:26] Which is stop motion.

[00:56:27] Stop motion.

[00:56:28] It's a little different.

[00:56:29] Yeah.

[00:56:29] The live action follow up to grand Budapest was the French dispatch.

[00:56:33] Yeah.

[00:56:33] You go into aisle of dogs.

[00:56:34] You don't expect it to like, yeah.

[00:56:36] Right.

[00:56:37] Grand Budapest is amazing and so good.

[00:56:39] It's the quintessential Wes Anderson film.

[00:56:41] That's the one between Royal Tenenbaums and Grand Budapest.

[00:56:44] That's the two.

[00:56:45] That's like, that's where I can think you can set.

[00:56:47] And you see the evolution of, of, of Wes Anderson from, you know, back in Royal Tenenbaums

[00:56:53] and definitely in Rushmore.

[00:56:54] I mean, yes, you know, the sentiment, the sensibility of Rush, Wes Anderson's there, but

[00:56:59] it's all, it's all done in a much more grounded, realistic touch and feel environment where

[00:57:06] you get to Grand Budapest and it's just, he is exploring every, everything he wants to

[00:57:12] explore in film in this one piece.

[00:57:14] And, uh, and, and they both work, which is what's great.

[00:57:17] So yeah.

[00:57:18] All right.

[00:57:18] Yeah.

[00:57:19] And look, Ray finds to me, he could do serious movies like conclave the entire rest of his

[00:57:25] career.

[00:57:26] And because of this role in Grand Budapest and his one scene in Hell Caesar, the, uh,

[00:57:34] the, uh,

[00:57:38] if it's just those two performances, I will always think of him as a comedic actor.

[00:57:43] Oh, okay.

[00:57:44] Like a dry, dry comedic actor.

[00:57:46] Right.

[00:57:46] Just because of these two roles.

[00:57:47] Even if he does conclates for the rest of his career.

[00:57:49] Now you maybe want to watch Hell Caesar.

[00:57:50] Yeah.

[00:57:51] Well, maybe just that one scene.

[00:57:53] I mean, Hell Caesar is great, but it's okay.

[00:57:55] It's not a Coen brothers classic, but, uh, it has its moments, but that scene I think

[00:57:59] is worth watching the movie for just for that.

[00:58:01] When for my money, like I think it's Anderson's best film to date and I think it's finds his

[00:58:06] best work.

[00:58:07] Okay.

[00:58:07] All right.

[00:58:08] I mean, I, even though I thought he was good in conclave and I think it's not, but Ray finds

[00:58:11] us good in a lot.

[00:58:13] True.

[00:58:13] Um, you know, but, uh, I do think, yes, the Grand Budapest was his best performance because

[00:58:19] it was so unexpected from him and he just nailed it.

[00:58:23] He just, he knew exactly what he was doing there.

[00:58:25] So not that actors don't strive to do this anyway, but just like so consistent with the

[00:58:31] character and like he, everything he does, you're like, well, of course that guy's going

[00:58:34] to do that because that's who this dude is.

[00:58:36] Even though you've just met him, you're like, he's just so consistent with his portrayal.

[00:58:40] It's amazing.

[00:58:41] All right.

[00:58:41] So Chris's recommendation is the Grand Budapest Hotel by Wes Anderson.

[00:58:45] That was a 2014 film available on any years.

[00:58:49] Can you believe that?

[00:58:49] It's crazy.

[00:58:50] Available on all video on demand services for rent or purchase.

[00:58:55] So, um, great.

[00:58:57] Okay, good.

[00:58:57] I think we had a good show.

[00:58:59] I think so.

[00:59:00] Conclave, Ray finds, positive reviews, um, electric state, still not great looking, but something

[00:59:07] to watch in March.

[00:59:09] Sure.

[00:59:10] Um, because you know, March is not really a key time for a lot of big movie releases.

[00:59:14] It'll be good to have a, what could be a good dumb movie on Netflix in mid March.

[00:59:20] Yeah.

[00:59:21] Um, scary movie, not excited about, not interested in, but you know, Wayne brothers, work your

[00:59:28] magic.

[00:59:28] Give me something to, give me something to be excited about and we'll see what happens with

[00:59:31] that.

[00:59:32] Sure.

[00:59:32] Uh, kudos to the horror industry for getting back into spoof category.

[00:59:37] They're deemed worthy of spoof again.

[00:59:39] Yeah.

[00:59:39] Right.

[00:59:40] And then Chris's recommendation of Grand Budapest Hotel.

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