Anatomy of The Marvels Fall

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[00:00:22] For a schedule of upcoming screenings and flooding to all of the film premieres to go and promote their film seriously. There's like a slew of them already happening in the next few days. So yeah, so the business of selling movies is back in business. And it should be interesting to see how quickly

[00:01:41] that ramps back up. But congratulations to all I am anxious to share with him and get his thoughts on it. And then also going to share a news article, a story that I found really interesting, talking about the third and final entry into the Marvel Cinematic Universe for 2023. The film follows Carol Danvers, alias Captain Marvel, Kamala Khan, alias Ms. Marvel, and Monica Rambo, which alias to be determined. Once their powers become entangled, which then forces them to work together

[00:04:21] to save the universe from the threats fun with this idea, this concept. And I'm saying for the main core of the film I think it was it was very fun and I had a really good time with it was much better than expected. It's about mid-tier Marvel movie for me it's like it's not the

[00:07:02] bottom half at all. It's not my one of my favorites but it exceeded expectations a new character and her name was Ms. Marvel. But other than that, I didn't know anything about her. And then I was vaguely familiar with the Rambo character because, you know, WandaVision stuff. But I was worried that they were going to have to do a lot of explaining up front and kind of not world building, but just kind of setting the stage before the actual story of this actual movie could kick in like I said to the story where it was basically Them trying to save the universe from this person that could rip holes in the fabric of space It was actually okay, and I agree with what you said the three leads Brie Larson, Tiana Harris and Iain Vianc, Vellani. I think

[00:09:41] they

[00:09:42] They were good. They their chemistry together. I thought worked really well and there's a little bit of backstory between

[00:10:45] To do my intro because I could not remember and I think that's the thing is you know Yes, you remember who the heroes are but you've got to remember who the big bad guy is you know

[00:10:50] After you see the film and I even though I have it written. Oh, we'll probably not remember that for longer than today

[00:10:56] Well, it's a shame that is my biggest my biggest complaint with the film too is I thought the villain was very very lacking and

[00:11:04] And it's a shame because you know as someone

[00:12:02] because I mean, the Marvel Universe in general has a typically had a wealth of villains.

[00:12:04] I think when these movies work best,

[00:12:06] it's when you've got a villain that you can either relate to

[00:12:10] or you can feel something for or is very memorable or unique.

[00:12:14] It's always the best examples of them.

[00:12:16] So I mean, you have, I mean, Black Panther gets so much acclaim

[00:12:21] and it's really a good movie.

[00:12:23] And one of the reasons is people think the villain

[00:12:26] was really, really great.

[00:12:27] I mean, it was a killmonger.

[00:12:28] Killmonger. you and I are on the same page about this. But it's interesting. He didn't say what those two sequences were, but for me, I'm wondering if they're the ones that actually kind of not saved the film. I thought it was good, but it made me give some respect to, I guess, the writers who knew Dicosta is one of them. And also the director for being like, we're going to do this. Yeah. And I know the two. Yeah. Yeah. And I'll say I'm not going to go into great detail,

[00:13:42] but basically there's a planet that communicates through helped. And we kind of see a little funny consequence of that with this situation. So I like them various levels for that same reason. But yeah, please. Yeah. Yeah. Actually, there's a little bit of that in the trailer, but you don't understand exactly what you're seeing. You see like kind of a, it looks like a street party scene.

[00:15:02] Party, for anything.

[00:15:03] And you're like, okay.

[00:15:04] And it just looks kind of odd.

[00:15:06] And now I I loved it. And it definitely got a little, it was definitely a bizarre sequence, especially some musical cues dropped in to kind of accentuate what was happening. I mean, yeah, I liked it a lot. I thought it was fun. And it just ramped up the overall tone of this film, which I did like is that, hey, yeah, I know we're dealing with a threat

[00:16:21] that threatens to destroy the universe, blah, blah, blah,

[00:16:24] whatever.

[00:16:24] But we're going to have,

[00:16:26] let's still have fun with it. So yeah. Last thing I'll say is I think Brie Larson's performance as Carol Danvers, you know, of course we had her in the Captain Marvel standalone movie, and then she's, kick, kick action, fun stuff. And I'm okay with that, because that's what the movie wanted to be. But I will say I liked all three of their performances, but I do think Brie Larson was probably the best I've seen her play this character out of all the times. I've seen it, so. Okay, so to wrap up, I kind of alluded in the intro.

[00:19:02] This is a rollercoaster ride.

[00:19:04] You have Ant-Man, Quantum Mania,

[00:19:06] which was at the beginning of the year. and insider reports about how things are troubled there. I've kind of feel like with the Marvels, I think the Marvels is gonna perform a little better than they expected. I think critically it's gonna do better than they expected. I think there's gonna be some good fan buzz about this film and I think it's gonna build up some more energy. If our critics screening was any note,

[00:20:20] when a couple of key moments happened,

[00:20:22] especially in the credits,

[00:20:23] the credit scenes, the fanboy reaction

[00:20:26] was off the chart in our theater,

[00:20:28] I think that's gonna happen. because you'll get people break through like, man, what I really want is a Marvel movie. And then when it finally comes out, people will be rushing to see it. Deadpool 3 was going to be in March. Now it's going to be in June, July, and then they're moving the other two that were going to be kept, the new Captain America. And was Thunderbolts going to be?

[00:21:40] Or Blade.

[00:21:41] Thunderbolts are Blade, okay.

[00:21:42] Yeah, I think those two were going to be summer and winter, and now they're both 2025.

[00:22:41] of a fall.

[00:22:49] I need you to be pre-sticed. Tell me everything.

[00:22:50] Yes.

[00:22:59] I don't know what happened.

[00:23:00] I think you fell off that hot floor.

[00:23:01] The window's open.

[00:23:05] The autopsy report is inconclusive. led by his dog to the body of his father lying on the snow outside in a pool of blood. Daniel cries out and sonder exits the house, sees her son over her husband's lifeless body and rushes to comfort him while calling the police. What follows is a tense drama where a woman is suspected of her husband's murder and your young partially blind son faces a moral dilemma as the main witness.

[00:24:25] Anatomy of a Fall won the Palm Door at this year's Cannes Film Festival over flashier film. Okay, just go ahead and lay that out there. I mean, it is a you just what you described the whole setup. That is the first five, seven minutes of the film. Sure. And then the next two hours is truly a. All right, it's lawyers, it's courtroom. It's, you know's blind. Right. Really makes sense as the film goes on, the reason for that choice. There's also a very deliberate choice of where Sandra and her husband speak English to each other,

[00:27:00] even though neither of them are English. That's important too, because Sandra,

[00:27:04] this whole time, we're learning about her and we're getting to know her if she And I'm generally, when you mention the phrase like courtroom drama, I immediately look like, I kind of feel like that like I do period pieces. They're just not things that speak to me. But one of the areas this one has is, I'm not very familiar with the French court system. Which kind of system? French court system is wild. Well, okay, now it is wild to us.

[00:28:21] I wonder if our system seems just as wack-a-doodle.

[00:28:24] I'm not saying there's this like weird on us.

[00:28:26] No, no, no, no, no, no assuming is to give us a perspective of what Daniel sees of his mother on the stand, where it's kind of people's heads and shoulders frame his view kind of like through a little tunnel. Well, if he could see her. If you could see her, that's right. That's okay. Good point. He can't see her. But yeah, it's like, it's that kind of look. I guess it puts you in the perspective. If not

[00:29:41] Daniel, you're one of the people sitting in before on the show, but this wasn't the score that was jarring to me. At the beginning, I mentioned that the husband, which it's also interesting how they deal with the husband. You don't see him until you see his body. And then you see him only in flashbacks. You

[00:31:01] see some photographs, but like it's weird it just did a great, really put you in Sandra's head for whatever that may mean. The story is kind of left open to discussion, but it worked, absolutely. Yeah, no, I was with you. I was ready for that song. I wanted that somebody to go shut that song off quickly

[00:32:23] after the first few minutes.

[00:32:24] So that made the point very, very well.

[00:32:27] And then they said that was one instance, I loved her from front to back, start to finish. I know that the lead actress is going to get a lot of the acclaim for this film. And she rightfully so, Sandra Mueller or Hewler, very, very good. She obviously has a lot to carry with this film. Sure. But I mean, all the other supporting cast though,

[00:33:40] I thought were just excellent.

[00:33:41] Swan Arland as Vincent or Ritzy, which is her attorney.

[00:33:45] Her lawyer and friend.

[00:33:47] Friend.

[00:33:48] Which has some interesting, and they're getting, hearing new things that are being unveiled or new revelations or new pieces of information. Yeah. And we're as an audience able to react to them just like the court is able to react to it when they see it. One of those pieces is audio recording. Yes. And there is a very long extended sequence of basically an audio recording and we get

[00:35:00] to, they play it in the courtroom, but for us. And then the fact too, that you start to learn that there are people who are going to give a testimony that was maybe not expected. And just like the other characters, we don't know what that is going to be. We have no idea. We're in the same boat as Lee character to see that, what does this mean?

[00:36:21] And what kind of frame of mind is this now put her in or the lawyer?

[00:36:25] I just, it was love films like that. So I think that generated a lot of conversation in our discussion afterwards. Sure. I think I'll just leave this as a couple little notes.

[00:37:45] I think there's a dog plays

[00:38:43] didshedoit.com and I was like, okay. And I didn't really, you know, I was like,

[00:38:45] that's weird and the film goes on afterwards,

[00:38:48] I checked out the site and they basically,

[00:38:51] it's a website for the film and they just have

[00:38:54] a question up there, did she do it?

[00:38:56] And they have buttons to click yes or no.

[00:38:58] And then depending on which one you click,

[00:39:00] they ask you to give your reason for why you said that.

[00:39:03] So I think it's,'t like that being there. It just it it cheapened the film a little bit for me and this is the film that should not be cheapened so but again I'm not gonna hold that against the film. That was obviously a studio or marketing angle to put on it. You know the film itself is wonderful so I love

[00:40:21] this film so much. I kind of joked with my audience last night that somebody

[00:40:25] brought up a question and we were trying to figure out what a certain scene meant. could the lead actress? Could Sandra Hueller actually make a best actress not on the Oscars? I don't know. I mean, foreign films getting a best actress not sometimes are a little rare, but I'd love to see it happen. And in the director, I'd love to see the director get some recognition for it. Cause I think again, she wrote the story,

[00:41:40] co-wrote the story with a writing partner

[00:41:43] then directing it and just knowing exactly how much to share one to deal with our favorite ghost busting boys, the Ghostbusters, new Ghostbusters movie coming. We're going to talk about that for a minute. And then also the film that is being shelved by Warner Brothers. I'll explain what that means and why I think this is a crime and a shame. And we'll discuss that here in a minute. You're listening to

[00:43:02] Fukkano Films here on the mesh.tv and we'll be right back.

[00:44:03] stories, just both of them things I saw yesterday. So this is hot off the press fresh stuff here.

[00:44:09] We had a, we had a Ghostbusters movie a few years ago, two years ago, maybe

[00:44:15] three. So after 2020. Yeah. When was that? It was Ghostbusters after life.

[00:44:23] And this was directed by Jason Reitman,. Okay. However, there was enough there. And I think the characters, the kind of the new, the new status quo that they set up for the Ghostbusters franchise was interesting. So I was looking forward to seeing if they were going to release a new sequel to

[00:45:42] that film.

[00:45:42] And lo and behold, we do have a trailer that came out for Ghostbusters frozen

[00:46:43] the kids that were in the previous movie as well. It does, I mean, I'm not spoiling anything,

[00:46:45] it's in the trailer.

[00:46:46] You will hear the voices of some of the original Ghostbusters.

[00:46:49] They are featured in the trailer as being in this film.

[00:46:52] So it doesn't appear to be any kind of surprise with that.

[00:46:55] That is going to happen.

[00:46:56] So Chris, if we can, let's watch the trailer

[00:46:59] for Ghostbusters Frozen Empire,

[00:47:02] not directed by Jason Reitman.

[00:47:03] Jason Reitman helped write it and is a producer on it. Your bones crack. And the last thing you see... Is don't want to have it, you know, break my heart

[00:50:41] I don't know. Do you think I need to see it to see this one or not?

[00:50:44] I would imagine you probably would need to see it to see this one.

[00:50:47] Okay.

[00:50:48] But the question is, do you need to see it?

[00:50:50] I like, I thought it was fun.

[00:50:51] I'm actually kind of tempted to watch it again here pretty soon.

[00:50:54] Okay.

[00:50:55] Just to see, because I wanted to like it so much.

[00:50:59] Right.

[00:51:00] I think I may have gone in with some very unfair expectations for it.

[00:51:05] It was let down'm sorry, McKenna Grace, that's the one. McKenna Grace plays Phoebe. She is the young girl in the movie. She is the daughter of the Carrie Coons character named Callie. Paul Rudd is a school teacher

[00:52:20] that they befriend in the first movie. But McKenna Grace is so good. I recognized that in the first 20 minutes of the film, like, okay, I may check out of this film right now. But it was good that it got past that and it still made it okay by the end. So anyway, I think you should watch it. I think we need to do a review of it. A like a archival follow-up review to an order film before the new one comes out, just so you can tell me your thoughts and,

[00:53:42] I don't know, I'd be really curious

[00:53:44] to see what your thoughts are on it.

[00:53:46] Fair enough. having a rough edit of the film and almost basically done, and then deciding not to release it in any way, shape or form. And their chief offense in that department until I think maybe recently was the Batgirl film. Correct. The Batgirl film, which was gonna be a, at one point it was gonna be, yeah, actually it was gonna be a HBO Max or Max release.

[00:55:04] And they decided, or they said they made a financial decision

[00:55:07] to say we're not going to even release the film So we just write it off. Odd. And you would think with this mini streaming platforms and kind of the viability of streaming films that I just don't understand the logic of not even just releasing it online. But again, if they could write off $30 million or whatever, I guess that's, that's where the money talks. So anyway, we have another example of that that just came out yesterday.

[00:56:22] And this one, I really just find really interesting.

[00:56:24] Uh, the film is called Coyote versus Acme.

[00:57:23] Sammy Birch and a Mr. James Gunn, who you may know as. Yeah.

[00:57:23] Obviously, Guardians of the Galaxy,

[00:57:26] Peacemaker, the new DC movies, he's done all of those.

[00:57:31] It's combining live action and animation.

[00:57:33] It's based on the character, the Wile E. Coyote

[00:57:36] and the Acme Corporation from the Looney Tunes series of cartoons.

[00:57:40] Please tell me it's like a court case.

[00:57:42] Yes.

[00:57:42] Man.

[00:57:43] I know.

[00:57:44] That's it.

[00:57:45] This is the premise.

[00:57:46] This is the premise thing we missed out on. John Cena, Will Forte, Wile E. Coyote, courtroom, comedy, live action plus animation mix.

[00:59:01] It would have been good.

[00:59:04] James Gunn kind of helping with the story. tax money back on this, we're going to write it off. But there's still some way, whether some sort of statute of limitations runs out or something where it could be just thrown up online and like at least let people see it. I don't know. I don't know how that all works in the background there. So all right, Chris, well, that was just what I wanted to mention. The unfortunate story of Coyote versus Acme,

[01:00:21] the possibility of a new, possibly good,

[01:00:26] possibly not, Ghostbusters so much, everybody, for watching or, I guess, listening. I always forget. We're not a video podcast. No, we don't need to. Nobody needs to see that. We're an audio podcast.

[01:01:40] So thank you for listening.

[01:01:41] Thank you for joining in the conversations and we'll look forward to talking to you next

[01:01:44] time.

[01:01:45] See you in the ticket line.