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[00:00:02] What you want, when you want it, where you want it. This is The MESH. We'll try not to like too much talk over each other, but again we are girls and we are totally disagreeing. Well, make it bother me. A little. It's like a cracked out two birds from Greece. Yeah. You know, she's got that black hair. Hey, hey, welcome back to Chick Chat here on The MESH.

[00:00:32] Hope you're doing well. Well, it is mid-January. It is cold. That's late January. Jesus. Already? Anyway. Already, right? It's late January. And you know what, Jeanette, just give me a thumbs up if everything's good in your life. Is all good? Yeah. All good? Okay. We got it. Meh. No, it's fine. Right? You know what? We're not dwelling. We have so much to discuss in so little time.

[00:01:00] Because so much happened at the end. I think lots of people thought they were going to get away with the end of the year and cross over to new year. People not seeing a bunch of celebrity updates and whatnot. But I have questions. I have things to discuss. And I need your feedback. We have not discussed any of this. Again, anyone listening, we are not breaking news here. We are just two girls that are friends that never really get to talk.

[00:01:28] And so we use this as our platform to discuss everything going on pop culture that we want to talk about. So, Jeanette, what are your thoughts? Give me one word. One word to describe the Blake Lively, Justin Baldoni drama. One word. Chaos?

[00:01:59] I don't know if that's the right word I want to use because I am thoroughly entertained. I know. I'm extremely, I'm not just entertained. I am, I am involved. I am, I'm very curious. I'm also a little confused. I'm not confused on what is going on. I get it. But I'm confused, confused on whether or not, how I'm supposed to feel about it.

[00:02:30] I don't know if that makes sense. But. It does. Because you, you, yes, it makes sense to me because I'm like. Because you feel like a horrible woman. Right? Yeah. Okay. So I've been a Blake Lively fan. Have been. I mean, I was a, her sister fan first. Oh, no. I mean, if we, the number of times we've discussed Teen Witch. I mean.

[00:02:59] No, we are all Robin Lively. We are all Robin Lively first and foremost. Then Blake comes along. Don't make us get into the rap, but you know. Let's just say we're big fans. Top that. Top that. So I'm not, I'm not saying that I never liked, that I didn't like Blake Lively. I'm a fan. I'm a fan of hers. I watched all of Gossip Girl. I've seen the Sisterhood movies. Blah, blah, blah. Blah.

[00:03:25] Um, but for some reason, whenever this first came out and Justin was, or not first came out, not the lawsuit. Again, we're not breaking news. If you were listening and you don't know what we're talking about, just go do a little research first. Blake Lively. Um, basically at the, around the time of the new movie that they are in together, it ends with us. Did you read the book by the way, Jeanette? No.

[00:03:54] So I will preface this conversation by saying my daughter read the book, asked me if I would go to the movie and see it with her. I was like, sure, let's, let's go see it. And having not read the book, we both came out of there kind of like, and I was like, is that what the book is like? Because I don't want to read it. And she was like, no, I feel like they missed a lot.

[00:04:17] And even she, she wasn't a fan of the movie, but she was like, but mom, it's the message. And I was like, okay, I get the message, but I feel like that message was maybe overshadowed by a lot of other things because like, it just made me one over my head. But so I'll prep all my things that I'm saying about this. But you have seen the movie. I've seen the movie, was not a fan of the movie, will not watch it again. Because I just not, I didn't, it didn't pull me in.

[00:04:46] I was very dissatisfied with that. Agreed. I, I read the book and watched the movie, loved the book, didn't care for the movie. Um, the only reason that I watched the whole movie was because I had read the book, you know, and I was almost at that point, just playing comparisons.

[00:05:12] But, um, the, there, there was a lot missed. It felt like I was watching like, um, a Hallmark movie a little bit. And so I just, I didn't feel like it was top tier Blake Lively calling Hoover, you know, like for as much joy as this book has brought a lot of people and is discussion and whatnot.

[00:05:40] Book clubs run it over with this. Um, I don't feel like this was what Colleen Hoover was trying to do in the book more or less while portrayed in the movie, if that makes sense. So, yeah. So my daughter kind of explained it to me that it was a little more obvious and a little more out there in the book versus what I saw on screen. She's like, she even felt, she's my daughter is 17.

[00:06:06] She's like, I felt like they just jumped, like missed a lot of the in between. So there was a lot of things that did not have context. And even I was like, don't get me wrong when I say this, cause it's going to sound horrible the way I'm saying it, but I'm like, I asked her was the abuse more blatant in the book? Because I felt like I was watching a rom-com with a little, not a little bit, but with some violence in it.

[00:06:34] Like I felt like we saw more violence between her parents than in her own relationship. Even like the hospital scene threw me a little bit. Cause I'm like, I'm, I'm thoroughly confused on what this relationship is like. And well, and yes, and in the book, it's definitely because you hear the thoughts, right? You're reading her thoughts, you're reading her mind going through like what just happened. Wait, what was this? You know? Oh no, blah, blah, blah.

[00:07:01] But in the movie, I kind of felt like they, they did it so lightly and I get it. Maybe that's, you know, that is how that happens sometimes, right? Like you think this person loves you and, or maybe, you know, they do love you, but like things get out of hand or what, I don't know. But in the movie, I felt like there were a few times where I was kind of like, wait, did, like, did I miss something?

[00:07:29] Cause it looked like, like that actually looked like they, that was an accident or something. Yes. And I hate to say it that way because that's what I was trying not to say, but yeah, you said it, you said it great. I wouldn't have said it so eloquently. I don't, I don't support obviously. And it's a horrible subject matter and I'm all girl power, but I don't feel like it was

[00:07:55] shown properly to get the point across that this is what we're supposed to be discussing. Yes. Um, violence, uh, or, or even just anger issues or, or whatever it may be. This was, I, I really, they even showed it so many times the replay and the feel of this, this incident that I thought they were trying to show us that this was an accident or not

[00:08:27] his fault or not her fault. I don't know, but yeah, whatever it may be. So the fact was, I'm sorry. Go ahead. I was going to say, can I ask you two questions that that bothered me in the movie? And my daughter kind of gave me an answer, but I don't know that she gave me an answer to satisfy me. So two, two instances, one being the phone and him dropping the phone and the case dropping off. Like that, that happened in the book because I've dropped my phone many a times.

[00:08:54] And never once has everything just fallen out of like my phone case is just not falling off. Right. She knew she put the phone that he put the phone number in there. So why not just like move it somewhere? And the second one was, why was she just talking around the tattoo? Because she has a past. They both have a past. It would have been so easy for her to say, this is a tattoo I got because of a childhood

[00:09:24] relationship. We both got like, it just did those two things happen the way they were portrayed in the movie? I don't recall if the, like the whole phone thing was like the case falling off and the this and that. Like, I don't, I don't recall if it was that in the book. Um, I don't think that was the, I thought it was just another, I think there was another way that she saw or something or that it was seen. Okay.

[00:09:53] And he, like he saw it. And so, I don't know. I don't recall. Not important. I just wondered. It bothered me. The, the stuff with Atlas. Atlas. That was kind of a big deal for me because to me, after reading the book, it was very much one of these, or for me personally, again, it was this, oh, Atlas is just, he is the guy

[00:10:23] like Atlas is the dream, the memory, the, the goal, the end game, the, this, the, that, like Atlas is it. And in the movie, I don't feel like Atlas got the love that he did in the book or I didn't leave the movie feeling like, oh, thank God for Atlas.

[00:10:46] Atlas, you know, it wasn't, he was, you know, you go through the stage in the book where it's very, you know, one tree hill. Is it, is it Nathan Scott, you know, or who am I, which brother am I pulling for? And this in the book, there was a time where I was like, oh, it, is it, is it Ryle or Atlas? Is it Ryle or Atlas? You know, like, who do I love more?

[00:11:15] And that's before when I'm reading because you hadn't quite gotten into the, who was the, who was the bad one? Gotcha. Okay. We knew about Atlas and then she's dating this amazing Ryle, right? And so in the book, you hear all the stories of her childhood with Atlas and then the, the memories and all.

[00:11:42] And I guess I knew that the book was going to be addressing like physical and sexual violence and stuff, but an abuse. But I honestly reading the book didn't have any spoilers. I didn't know which one was going to do it. Oh. Okay. And then, and then it starts becoming obvious. So then you're like, oh my God, I love Atlas. Like Atlas this, Atlas that.

[00:12:10] Because there was just so much emotion written behind their history. But in the movie, it was kind of like, oh, I mean, yeah, there was this boyfriend and blah, blah, blah. Yeah. You just got to throw it in there, right? Yeah. And then it was like, oops, wow. He's a, he's here at the restaurant, you know? Yeah. It just felt very like, we only have two hours. Right. Right. Let's just jump ahead. Let's just put Atlas on.

[00:12:40] Right. Yeah. But yeah, it. So, yeah. I mean, it was just, I felt like I needed to hate Ryle more in the movie than I actually came away hating him. Right. And that sounds horrible. Nope. But I'm like. That's exactly it. In the book, I left hating him. Okay. See, I didn't get that from the movie. But in the movie, I was kind of like, well, I mean, he's handsome. You know, again, it's horrible.

[00:13:09] I don't mean it like that. I don't mean that it's excusable. I just mean they didn't, they didn't show me what I thought they were trying to show me. Yeah. Yeah. And I heard that in the book, his sister doesn't react the way that she reacted in the movie. In the movie. Right. Yeah. And, you know, and I kind of was, I didn't know that that was going to be happening. So there was a little bit of surprise there that it was like, she's like, oh my God, I love you.

[00:13:39] You know, you're screw my brother type of thing. But I felt like they, in the movie, they tried to almost cheat it a little bit to where she still made it known that she was around him and acknowledging him and whatnot. But then, I don't know. It was different. It was very different.

[00:14:01] Um, so when that movie came out, there became, um, this cloud almost over Blake Lively. It seemed, seemed there was a lot of bad press going around or she was kind of coming off nasty as in, in the public eye, which a lot of people, it was really 50, 50. I feel like there were a lot of people that were just very, oh yeah, of course. I mean, that's Blake.

[00:14:32] Screw break. Blake, you know, look at Justin. He's all for women's rights. He did a Ted talk on it. He's amazing. We love Justin. And then there's, um, the other side that was, you know, gossip girl forever. And, and couldn't believe it.

[00:14:52] So I don't know where I fell with that, but I do think that it was all, the timing was, was either planted properly or again, who knows? I'm in the, I'm in the crapshoot here, right? Like it could be true. It could not be true. Don't know. All right. So we know Justin Baldoni from Jane, the Virgin.

[00:15:21] You and I used to discuss that show quite a bit back in the day. Um, and then I'm just, you know, obviously I don't know him from much else. Um, and it's weird because I think a lot of people out there are like, oh, he's pretty unknown, you know, except for his, his production company. And I'm like, no, he's not like he was, how did you not watch this? How'd you not see him on Jane, the Virgin?

[00:15:47] Anywho, um, you know, very, very Cliff Snates version. He's got this production company. He was the director of the movie as well as starring in it. He hired a lot of his own personal buddies to be in this movie. Um, towards the end of the year, Blake comes out with a, um, it wasn't a formal lawsuit at the time.

[00:16:14] It was a legal complaint and stating lots of things that she, um, really was not having on set and whatnot that she had asked. Things had not, would not happen anymore. And, you know, and she blames his production company saying that he specifically was, um,

[00:16:41] doing a lot of these things and that his PR firm and all were doing a smear campaign. I don't know the actual word for it, but anyway, basically he's now come back and said, nah, uh, you know, and points the fingers back at her. And now he's filed a lawsuit against, what is it? New York times or New York post or something. Yeah. Yeah. And Blake lively and Ryan Reynolds and Ryan Reynolds.

[00:17:11] Cause he says that he was doing defamation and stuff of character and his name. Well now they just like two days ago, they put out a, um, his team, Justin's team released a video of them on set filming. And this was raw footage from behind the scenes. Have you seen this video? Yes. Okay. Several times from several different angles. Correct.

[00:17:41] Um, his team put it out saying here, look, this is how Blake was on set. Okay. Blake has in her complaint and lawsuit described certain things like fat shaming, um, walking into her trailer unannounced, um, making inappropriate comments towards her using things that were

[00:18:06] talking amongst in her company about, uh, pornographic addictions, I guess. Um, saying things, not having an intimacy coordinator on set for intimate filming situations. Those types, those are some of the things that she has reported within her complaint.

[00:18:35] Um, Justin's come back basically and said, like I said, it was, everything was like, nah, not, not me, not me. I didn't do this. It was all Blake. She was horrible. She's a bitch. Well, then, um, they released this video of the two of them filming a scene where the cameras are rolling, but there is going to be a music overlay of the video.

[00:19:04] So they know that what they're actually saying is not really all going to be on camera, just possibly some lines of it. And apparently Justin is, um, you know, off the cuff. He's not, uh, he's what's the word? Not scripted. He's not following script. He's saying things to her about how she smells and how she looks while kissing her and kissing her neck or whatnot.

[00:19:31] Uh, and so he's like, here's my proof. Look how good she didn't look uncomfortable at all. And then Blake's team came back and said, no, she absolutely looks uncomfortable. And in fact, this video is everything that we're describing to you. You know, he was saying things that weren't scripted, that weren't part of the, the, uh, emotion of that, that shot.

[00:19:56] But, and now we're at a, you know, they're both, they're both just pointing fingers at each other and being ugly. So I am, um, I'm at a loss because the female of me says, screw you, Justin, you know, you don't do these things. Don't say these things. And that's not how we act on a set. And then the, you know, other side of me says, I don't know, like what?

[00:20:25] I can't tell because I'm not, I mean, I wasn't there and I probably will never know the actual details, but yet I can't, I can't figure it out. So I had a little bit of a different take on that. Again, watched it many times from several different angles. So, and I, I may be somewhat biased by the comments, but I, I pretty much felt the same way that the comments were relating.

[00:20:53] So regarding the whole smell thing in the scene, again, this is improvised because it's, it's a slow dance. It's supposed to be just like these, this shot of them dancing, looking at each other, whatever. Yes. I have some montage stuff around it. I believe there's people just walking around. There's a sports game going on. It's the scene where they're like in a sports bar because there's a hockey game or something.

[00:21:19] Um, so he nuzzles her neck and says, sorry, I'm getting beard on you. And she says, no, I'm probably getting spray tan on you. And to me, sarcastically, he says, no, it smells good. And she's like, well, it's probably my body makeup. So she didn't look offended in that moment. He wasn't leaning down on her and smelling her neck and being like, oh, you smell so good. Like it was in reference to something she was saying. Right. Right.

[00:21:47] I also feel like she talked throughout the entire scene. It was like, there was a pull between both of them of who's directing the scene. Because at one point he says to her, um, my wife and I just like to stare at each other, stare at each other. And we like quietly. And we feel like that's really intimate. And like, and she's like, oh, Ryan and I like to talk.

[00:22:15] And he's like, yeah, I bet you guys talk a lot. So like, he's just kind of saying like, can we be quiet in the scene? Yeah. Yeah. He's like, no, they want it. Don't give it to them. Let's just talk. I think talking is more like, because when we talk like, and he's like, oh no, I think that's great. I think you guys are great. She's like, well, it's more than great. He's like, you're amazing. She goes, yeah. And I'm like, oh my gosh. So there's one scene where he wants them just like not to kiss, but kind of like put their lips close to each other.

[00:22:42] And the, the, the suspense almost when you're watching it. Like, you know, that won't be right. Yeah. Like chemistry there. And she just keeps talking like, and then like when it's time to cut at one point he yells cut. He completely snaps out of character and goes to like, can we see the shot from this? And like, so I didn't feel, I felt like maybe she was cherry picking moments maybe. Right.

[00:23:11] From that scene or from that moment. Because even people watching that were like, well, Blake, if you don't want to play romantic roles and have to kiss your co-star and have him nuzzle you in, in scenes where it calls for like you guys to be intimate, like maybe you shouldn't be an actress because. Right. Like this is your job.

[00:23:34] But I think to play devil's advocate on that, you know, I mean, shooting a movie takes a while. Right. And they had also had to pause because of the, the strike, the SAG strike. Like, and so, you know, they kind of were there and then came back and there and came back.

[00:23:55] And we don't know how long any of this kind of in her stance, she's saying uncomfortable situations were going on. And to when this was filmed, because I mean, obviously filming never takes place in sequential timeline. Like we don't, they're shooting different scenes. The first thing could be the last scene that's in the movie, but I don't, um, I don't know

[00:24:25] had she already had things not progressed. Was this early on? Was this kind of just the first time that they were filming something like this? Um, because you know, there were some pretty graphic stuff. I don't know if you like read everything about the giving birth scene and what she was asked to wear.

[00:24:48] And then the fact that he didn't hire an actual actor to play the doctor who was going to be like down there in between her legs. They actually hired just his like buddy who came to set a lot and little things to where I don't know when this was filmed, this scene that was released, had she, had she had her fill yet or not? You know?

[00:25:18] Um, like I just don't know, like I figure, you know, you sign a contract, you got to finish the movie. She knows what a big deal the Colleen Hoover book is. I got to see this through and be done with it, but I don't want to promote it. I don't want to go out there and do this stuff. I don't want to be seen with him because of these things, but I got to finish the movie. And you know what, if I am going to have to do romantic movies, I'm happy to do them, but with the proper intimacy coordinator on site.

[00:25:45] And if we're not going to have one on site, you know, this is, this is not appropriate and I'm fed up with this, but I know I have to finish the movie. Yeah. So to me, and again, I don't know whether she did or she didn't, but if she read the book, like I'm someone who's coming in, not reading the book and I have this script. If I, if she truly did not read the book as Justin is saying, because she would have

[00:26:13] had some idea of how this was going to go in the movie. Maybe she was unprepared for what was about to happen because had she read the book, maybe she would have been prepared for more sexual scenes or like more violent scenes. But I don't think that was the problem, right? Like that's never really been the problem. It's a lot of the offset stuff, like when she was breastfeeding her child in her trailer and he would just walk in, you know, without, Did you see the rest of his everything, all the other evidence that he presented where he's

[00:26:43] like, well, here's the text where she invited me while she was breastfeeding. And I was eating with this. But I'm, I'm kind of, I guess I'm, cause I've actually been in that situation because I did have to do that whenever I was, had my first child in a public setting, basically in, um, back many years ago.

[00:27:04] But like she, I think there's still a stance of, she made the comment of, and I'm reading deep into it because I'm trying to, trying to figure out like what was happening, but I guess I'm the type of person that still, if I say, yeah, sure. Come on by. I don't necessarily mean walk into my trailer because I did just tell you I was pumping.

[00:27:31] I mean, knock on my door and give me a second to cover up, but we can sit in here if you're okay with this situation. But we also don't know if that didn't happen. Exactly. That's what I'm saying. Like, we don't know. Um, and I think that's going to be the case of a lot of them, right? Because like, if you read her thing about like what I was saying about the, what she was asked to wear for the giving birth scene, you know, but yet you're not going

[00:28:00] to have an intimacy coordinator. You could have read the book completely. And she knew exactly. I mean, if she read the book or if she didn't read the book, she saw the script, she knew what she was getting into, but I mean, she's been, you know, doing intimate stuff on camera for her whole life almost and adult life.

[00:28:24] And I think the fact, the problem was not that there was going to be these type of scenes. It was that they, she's stating that they were not handled appropriately or professionally. But there was an intimacy coordinator from the beginning. Not at everything. Not at that bar scene where they were just supposed to be dancing. Right. Like all of the graphic scenes, everything.

[00:28:52] And at one point when he hired her, I don't know if it was a he or she, but I'm assuming it was a she. Right. That he told her, I have this intimacy coordinator. Do you want to meet with her? And she's like, no, I'll just meet with her later. Right. So it wasn't like there wasn't one, maybe in that particular scene, because I'm going to be honest, I don't know that I need, I mean, maybe, yeah, it would have been safeguarding to have her there at that point. Sure. But if I'm not like about to lay down in the bed with you and get intimate, if I'm just

[00:29:19] kind of like kissing your forehead and stuff, like, I'm not going to think I need an intimacy coordinator there that day. Right. Right. But yeah, maybe in the future for everything, even a holding hand scene, let's get an intimacy coordinator to make sure that we're all pathetic here. But I don't know. I think that's my mom. One of the things that were stated that she asked as requirements in the order that she placed for working on the film.

[00:29:49] And according to the lawsuit and cited, you know, they say, and I'm just reading this here, it says, including quote, no more showing nude videos or images of women to Blake. No more mention of Baldani's alleged previous pornographic addiction. No more discussions about sexual conquest in front of Blake and others. No further mentions of casting crew's genitalia.

[00:30:17] No more inquiries about Blake's weight and no further mention of Blake's dead father. Additionally, no more adding of sex scenes, oral sex, or on camera climaxing by Blake Lively outside the scope of the script that Blake Lively approved when signing on to the project. So, you know, all of those, in my opinion, can be turned.

[00:30:47] And yeah, I feel like all of those can be turned to the other side to where it's like, no more showing nude videos or images of women to Blake. Okay. That was a hard scene. What was the context? Like, what was the context? Were we all sitting around having a beer after shooting one day and you're showing me something, you know, because we're all laughing and enjoying each other's company or what?

[00:31:13] You know, that's the stuff that I'm like, gosh, like, I feel like they're now just, he said, she said back and forth, back and forth. And, you know, some of the stuff that I'd read, obviously, if as a female, if they are a hundred percent true and if it was just as it was written, you know, again,

[00:31:38] just going off reading this stuff, then yeah, I'll be, I'd be pissed. But then on the other end, you read Justin's and you're like, dang, if he's going to say, or I mean, he has all these things, excuse me, if they are right, I don't, I don't understand. Like, this is, that sounds horrible too. I am 99.9%, like 99.99%. I am a believe women this happens.

[00:32:08] And I was fully on team, like, like, oh no, Justin, not you too. And then he came back with his side and I'm like, oh wait, what? Yeah. So like even Justin and his attorney even objected to the use of the, and he was smart because every time he did something, signed something, he then went behind and wrote a, I did this under duress. They even objected to what you just read, the words no more.

[00:32:35] He's like the use of the terms no more were used as if it was a daily occurrence and not one time things. He's like, there was no porn. There was no mention of porn. And she was, we were directing a birthing scene and my producing partner showed him the home video of their, his wife. I don't know. So that was, there was context there. Like, I still don't know that I want to see it, but you know, full transparency.

[00:33:02] My fifth grade teacher during our sex education class showed us a video of his wife giving birth. Stop it. No, I'm serious. So, I mean, I'm like, I wasn't traumatized. I was kind of like, oh, this is strange. But yeah, it was the eighties. I get whatever. Anything else. But I mean, we didn't see anything. I'm not going to be like, she wasn't new. Like, but no, I distinctly remember that.

[00:33:27] But yeah, it's, it's all very, very tough. Like, I don't know. I mean, is this all, I guess what I'm getting at is how does this affect both of them moving forward? In your opinion. I mean, Justin's been dropped by his people.

[00:33:52] And his podcast partner and whatnot, you know, and right and Blake's got, of course, celebrities supporting her. Yeah. Yeah. Well, let me tell you what kind of put me like over the edge because, you know, back to Jason, Justin Baldoni's credits. I haven't seen Clouds, but I have seen Five Feet Apart, which he also directed. Yeah. And it is so well done.

[00:34:18] It is a very, very sad movie, but so well done. It was a good movie. It is one that I would watch over again, even though it like breaks your heart in two. Yeah. But when I knew that he directed that and then I saw this, I was like, oh, like. Right. And then I find out that we see Blake's version. And so that's why I was like, she completely hijacked this project from him. What gives her the right to do that?

[00:34:46] Especially if his tested better than hers. She's pulling the I'm Blake Lively and I'm married to Ryan Reynolds card. And I feel cheated out of a movie that could have been done and should have been done so much better. And I don't think this had the impact, her complaint had the impact on her reputation that she was hoping it had.

[00:35:13] Especially since Justin has come out with his lawsuits. And backing those up with text messages, letters, videos, like anything that he has at his disposal.

[00:35:26] He's backing it up to the point where they even reached out to, was it Sony or some other movie set and said, he reached out, his lawyer reached out to someone and said, we want access to all of the emails, all of the text messages, all of the, any information you have. That is discovery. And we, we need you to deliver within X amount of days. So it's almost like they're prepared.

[00:35:52] And then Justin and, and on Blake and Ryan side, I'm sure they'll come out with a countersuit, but they're just like, can we put a gag order on the lawyer? Because they feel like their reputation is being ruined. It all seems to be about them and less about like what you tried to do to this person. And the more that it comes out that you all really strong armed her and maybe even got Taylor Swift involved.

[00:36:18] I think that's the fact that they had hoped would turn the tide in Blake's favor. Do not get Taylor Swift involved. Right. I mean, like the Swippies will come. This is how serious we've gotten people. Like this is how deep this is. It is a very, very tangled web.

[00:36:41] And I, I am like you, I am, I am 99.9 on women's side. You know, I have no reason to doubt somebody that feels uncomfortable, which is where you have a weird situation.

[00:36:58] Right. Because who can say on paper, Justin, Justin, no matter what else was done, no matter whether he thought she was a bitch, no matter whether he thought she was grumpy or didn't want to be there or wasn't a team player. If a female ever says she's uncomfortable, that's her feeling. Right. That's no one can dispute that because that's your feeling in your gut. Right. Nobody else is in your gut.

[00:37:29] A hundred percent. And that's why it's such a fine line. Yeah. I don't know how she felt. Maybe she did feel uncomfortable. Maybe she did. I think what bothers me is if she felt uncomfortable, like you're right. Any situation can be interpreted and it could be as innocent as possible. And I could still feel uncomfortable with it. I could still feel like, oh, it's a little. Right. Yeah. But what bothers me about it is.

[00:37:59] She 100 percent could have felt that way, but it would have been better if I would have felt like she told the truth up front instead of cherry picking the moments. And then when Justin shows them with additional context, you're like, but that's not what you said happened. Like you made it seem like this man just kissed you out of nowhere and showed you porn.

[00:38:22] But, you know, he's, you know, she's claiming that there was this campaign to ruin her career or ruin her reputation prior to all of this. Right. Like prior to all the things coming out detail wise. Why? Like, why is this like he hired Amber Heard's lawyers, right? No, I don't know.

[00:38:49] Or PR people. I mean, prior to prior to Blake's complaint or lawsuit. Well, because of the meeting at their house where Ryan yelled at him. Right. Because Blake felt like this campaign had been going on to ruin her reputation. That's where it started with everybody not liking Blake.

[00:39:17] But then Blake comes out with this complaint and formal complaint and lawsuit and says, oh, but this is what was going on. And then everybody says, oh, wait a minute. We're sorry, Blake. Like, we're sorry that we were thinking you're just an evil bitch out there. In Hollywood, you know? So I just I don't know. I don't know. And I have a feeling. I don't know.

[00:39:46] That this one's going to get even more in depth and that it's going to get dirty and it's not anywhere near done. Oh, well, apparently there's more video coming out from Justin's team. Yeah. In rebuttal, it says. So do you think and this is just a question that I didn't have, but in reading like comments and stuff like other people are questioning. I don't know that I buy that she fell for him like she had feelings and she got rejected. I don't I don't buy that whole narrative. Yeah, me neither.

[00:40:16] Do you think on some level she told her husband, Ryan Reynolds, a version of things and the way they happened and now Ryan is finding out in real time with everybody else what actually happened, but they can't go back on anything. I don't know. This is why they want the gag order because I don't know. I think that they all realize the movie was kind of crap. Well, and it was her movie.

[00:40:45] Like if he let everybody know this is not my version. And she, you know, comes off like this, doesn't want to do press for it, doesn't really want to help. So she's promoting her other lines of things. Yeah. And and she doesn't want to do all this stuff. And so he gets mad. He says, you know, maybe something out of context about, you know, being bitchy about something.

[00:41:11] And then she comes back and says, well, oh, yeah, this is everything that you did that made me this way. And this is why this movie is bad is because we didn't have this chemistry. We didn't do this because you did this, this, this and this. I think the whole thing stems from the fact that everybody knows the movie was bad. It was not great. It was not good.

[00:41:35] And I mean, she didn't really help herself with the everybody wear florals to the movie about domestic violence. I know. Why are we wearing flowers? And the whole like, like, she is not who I pictured when I was reading the book. That's what everyone's again. I didn't read the book, but everyone's like, she's not who should have played.

[00:41:58] Even to the point where people are even saying the girl who played younger version should have also played older version. Because in the book, I pictured a much younger girl. Well, she was 20 or 20s, right? Yeah, which I mean, I know Blake's not like old or anything. She's 35 though. But I mean, I'm picturing like a fresh out of college kind of girl. Right. Yeah. You know?

[00:42:25] Someone who would be more, again, it's going to sound horrible, but someone who you would think would be, hasn't lived a lot of life. A little naive. And a little naive in these situations to where, yes, they could say that was an accident. Versus someone who's like nearing my age. And grew up with seeing this in their own family. Right. Yeah. And has been through several relationships. Like, oh, no, no, that's not right. You know? Or had friends who've been through it. Yeah.

[00:42:52] And you know, it really just, the whole thing kind of just really, the biggest part that pissed me off is that Atlas did not get the love that he deserved. He was like a background player. Yeah. Yeah. And the fact that they had Brandon Skellner playing him. He should have had way more love in there because Brandon's amazing. He's gorgeous. And he could have played that role way better.

[00:43:21] Like, I think he could have been allowed to play that role better. Was he, is he, again, I haven't read any of Colin Hoover's books. So I know that it starts with us was the second, was like the sequel to this. Is he, is Atlas, I don't know if you've read it, but is Atlas more prominent in that? And maybe that's what they were saying for him. Like, keep him in the background for this one. But it's all, it's going to be all about Atlas. And. Oh, I don't know if I've read that one. Okay. No, I don't think I have. Okay.

[00:43:51] Because that was my thought was like, okay, well, maybe he's like, because the way the movie ended, I was like, okay, well, these are going to be the characters that we see in the next movie. Right, right. Well, you know, who knows what happens with that too, right? Yeah, I know, right? It's so cliche too. Let's meet at the flower market. I mean, who knows like what's going to happen now from this movie? I mean, when it comes to. Does it get her reputation back, you think?

[00:44:21] It's not. So far, I don't think it's going well for her. I know. There's going to have to be some bombshell that she, her team just drops that you're like, oh, this blows every, all the other evidence that Justin and his team have presented out the water. Like it, it just, that's it. Like, I don't need to say anything. That's what, that's what I'm, I'm just wondering, like what, what that could be or what they would do. I'm wondering. That's Hollywood. I know.

[00:44:49] Somebody's got to have a camera shot of something. Yeah. It'll, it's, that's what it's going to take. Like, and honestly, even, even though some of his stuff seems a little more like, oh yeah, well, we've got this. And they show the longer version to show context, which maybe makes more sense logically. I do think that he has a longer way to go because of being a male in the situation.

[00:45:20] Right. And the more unknown. Yeah. Yeah. And so I think he's going to have to be the one that comes even more with more stuff. Yeah. And, and I hate to say it, but I am here for it. I want to, I want to see, I want to know, I want to be there. I want to understand. And then I want to be able to point my finger at the right person. Do you want it to go to trial? Like we were obsessed with Amber Heard and Johnny Depp. Oh my gosh.

[00:45:48] But only if we could have the same players in the trial. We need Johnny Depp's lawyers back. I don't know. Justin's lawyer is pretty like animated. I know. Well, like I said, I think it was Amber Heard's team that he's hired. Okay. So, I mean, I think he's on track. I mean, it needs to be televised. I need to like be glued in. We, we might have to have like an episode after. Like, okay, let's recap.

[00:46:18] Like, I mean, I'm all for it. I need to analyze the videos the same way we analyze the pictures that uploaded. Like, I need it all. I'm not, I can be swayed. I mean, right now that it's tilting a little more in Justin's favor because he has the evidence. Oh, sure. But like, if you come with the evidence, I can be swayed back to your side. I'm, I'm swayable. I'm not firmly in anybody's camp right now. I am. I am not sold either way yet. Yeah.

[00:46:46] Um, I do think it's going to be ongoing for a while. I do think that it might get nasty. You've made Ryan Reynolds mad, which, you know, doesn't seem like it's going to end well. We make Deadpool mad. I know. Um, but you know, now you've made Blake's friends mad and Ryan's friends mad. And like you said, Swifties are up in arms and.

[00:47:13] And yeah, we're, I don't know what's going to happen, but I'm here for it. Do you want to see Justin's version of the movie? I mean, I wouldn't not watch it. Right? Like I want to see it because I'm like, I feel like we're owed this movie at this point. I mean. I don't care if you release it straight to video or Netflix or wherever, wherever you want to release it. I'll stream it. I'll stream it. And I want it to actually say like. Justin's cut.

[00:47:42] Cause I don't know who the director on this was. Um, Justin's version, like Taylor does, you know, and let him kind of like throw it in her face a little bit. Khaleesi's version. Justin's version. Right? Yeah. So I think. She called herself Khaleesi in Taylor Swift, a dragon. I was like. I don't know about that, but okay. Do you remember what happened to Khaleesi in the end? Cause. How in the world are we discussing?

[00:48:11] It ends with us and game of Thrones in the same situation. I mean. I cannot believe like. The amount of information. This man saved. It just has you thinking like, what was going on that made him be like, nope. I need to save this message. That's what has. She has yet to produce anything. Like, does she delete all her stuff? And Justin was like, that's weird. Screenstruck.

[00:48:38] Well, and that's why I'm wondering like, is she going to drop something big and be like, oh, okay. I wasn't going to go there, but. Well, she needs to come there now. He's going there. So she needs to. Stop waiting. Cause then I'm going to think it's AI. Yeah. I don't know what's going to happen. But it is interesting. It's a lot of he said, she said, and unfortunately none of us are ever probably going to really know

[00:49:02] the full truth since we weren't there, but like you said, it's Hollywood. Somebody's got to know. Somebody knows something. They always do. I need a background player to come out of the woods and be like, I was in the shadows, but I saw. It's exactly right. And they've got a little like footage from a flip phone or something. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, I love flip phone footage. The stuff that I just have to kind of enlarge this picture that I'm seeing. And it's the right people.

[00:49:32] And it's, it's like the most valid of any of the footage. Cause you don't know your being found. Mm. So just shifting a little bit to, this is very brief. We don't need to discuss this a lot, but this means a lot to me, but maybe not you. So Ryan Reynolds, this is the degrees of separation here. Ryan Reynolds, good buddy, Hugh Jackman. Did you hear that he's now divorced and dating Sutton Foster? Yes.

[00:50:04] So Sutton Foster, for those who don't know, Broadway, Tony winner, amazing. Thoroughly modern. Millie was kind of her thing. And younger. And younger. And fun heads. I don't know if you ever watched. I don't know if you've ever heard that one. Oh, you might need to go pull that up and watch. Okay. It's a series. It's sort of like a CW-ish series. Okay. She plays a Las Vegas showgirl.

[00:50:31] And she has a guy who, it's the guy that was, I think it was the guy that played Cameron in Ferris Bueller. Oh, I don't know his name, but I know you're talking about him. But you know what I'm talking about. Right? I'm pretty sure it was him. Anyway, he's like obsessed with her. Not in like a creepy way, but he's like in business, in town a lot for whatever. And he goes and sees her at these shows. And he's always bringing her flowers.

[00:51:00] And everybody thinks it's like her little fan boy and stuff. And anyway, she's just down in the dumps, depressed and all. And he kind of offers to take her to dinner one night. And she was finally like, fine, whatever, we'll go. She goes to dinner with him. And then he, they, I think they have too much to drink. They end up getting married at Vegas in the middle of the night. And just because it's, she's kind of a hot mess.

[00:51:32] And, and then he dies in like a car accident the next day. And so she has to go and like, she's listed in his like immediate papers and stuff that like his spouse would take everything. And they were here, they were married now. And so she goes to his old hometown, which is this small little Gilmore Girls-ish town.

[00:52:00] And she meets his mom, who is none too fond of her. And the mom owns a ballet studio. And the girls in town, you know, kind of take to Sutton Foster as their teacher, who she becomes bunhead is like the, what they're calling the ballet girls. Anyway, lovely little story. It's really cute. I should find it.

[00:52:30] I never heard of that. Yeah. Yeah. Anywho. So, you know, Hugh Jackman was one of those that had been married in Hollywood for a long, long time. I think it was like 27, 28 years. Long time. Yeah. They were married. But he did Music Man with Sutton recently. And there was buzz about them hooking up, hanging out, whatever. Lo and behold, she gets divorced in October. Then he sets divorce in December.

[00:52:59] And now they've come out and we've seen him kissing and hanging out. I mean, okay. I think it was, I don't know, but I just hate that one of those Hollywood 20 some year marriages ends, you know, but it was important to me because I love Sutton Foster. I have loved her since she was on What Not to Wear.

[00:53:30] Do you remember that show? I do, but I didn't ask you about it. So the show was where they do the makeover, right? That was What Not to Wear. And she and her partner, not partner, but like her kid, like that was playing a part with her in a show that she was in way back in the day. Two friends were married to two friends.

[00:53:58] So she was married to Christian Borle, who is famous for playing on Legally Blonde, the musical. Anyway, they were married and he nominated her as like, hey, she's this Broadway star and this and that and she's a horrible dresser. And so that was the first time I'd ever heard of her. And it was back in her very, very early days on Broadway.

[00:54:25] And I used to watch that show after classes whenever I was in college. So there you, you never knew. That's way back. That's way back. I know. That's a pretty name. Yeah. And you just don't see her name all the time and stuff. So there you go. That's your little tidbit there. Okay. Also, sad, sad breakup.

[00:54:48] How do you feel about Craig and Paige breaking up from Summer House and Southern Charm? Sad. I loved it together. But I kind of always thought like, unless one of them moves to either Charleston or New York, it was going to be very difficult for them to stay together. But I was hoping they did.

[00:55:17] I really, really wanted them to be together. I wanted them to stay together. Like there's something quirky about both of them. They both just always seem to laugh and fit together. Clearly, I only see what's on TV, but it just seemed to kind of mesh well. They kind of took each other in stride when a lot of their other friends don't always do the same. And but Paige was never going to leave New York.

[00:55:46] And Craig really needed to stay in Charleston with his businesses and whatnot. And, you know, that may be a short little plane ride, but it's just not feasible. And from what I understand, the rumor is, is that Paige was the one that called it off and that Craig was kind of caught off guard by it. And I think he had a video where he said that. So, yeah. So that's that's a shame.

[00:56:15] I hate that for them. Are you watching Southern Charm right now? Yes. Yeah. And it's so weird to see her on there knowing like what's about to happen. And he just froze his sperm. And that was the other issue. Like he was full on ready for let's get married. Let's have kids. And I think she was she was getting there, but she was still more of a why? You know, let's just we're having fun. We're doing well. Yeah. I almost feel like it was one of those.

[00:56:45] I don't know that anything happened. I think she loves him, but I think it was one of those. We don't want the same things right now. So let's keep dragging this on. It's just going to be years and years. She wants him to be happy and to be able to pursue what he wants. She would love that to be with her. But if marriage and kids is in his immediate future, she's not there yet. And he like that's what it is. And he's 40. Yeah. Or pushing 40 or so. He's at 40. Yeah.

[00:57:13] And so he was I even read something where he said, look, you know, I've he told Shep in like an interview that Shep was doing for a show or something. He said something like I and this is before the breakup. He said, of course, I'm down to wait, you know, a little bit longer for kids.

[00:57:34] He's like, but every time that I wait a little bit longer, she still has the ability to say, oh, just still not ready yet. He's like, and then that's just that much more time. And I get that. Like he's he's he's got a valid point, you know, like unless she's going to sign off somewhere saying, yes, 100 percent in two years, I will absolutely try to get pregnant. You know, that's not. Yeah.

[00:58:03] That's just not who they were. So it sucks. I hate it. It was one of my favorite couples to watch on TV. Like, I love seeing them. They were so cute. They were funny. I feel like they were better together than separately. Like I liked each of them separately, but I loved them together. Me too. And I just thought they were both really quirky. You know, like they're fun. Yeah. They're a cute couple. You know, and obviously there's nothing saying that they couldn't get back together.

[00:58:33] Who knows? They're in that same universe together of Bravo and whatnot. So they, you know, there's going to be plenty of chances for them to run into each other and all. But tell you, it's going to be real interesting whenever one of them starts dating again. I don't. I know. And now did you hear that Craig has opened up a new restaurant with Austin? No. Yeah. So it just opened like two weeks ago, maybe.

[00:59:02] It's called. It's like initials. But like what all the kids say. I don't know. It's like a whiskey bar or something like that. But it's also interesting to be watching this season with the troubles that Austin and Craig are having. And they just opened up a restaurant together in Charleston. Yeah. I'm at Taylor Church of Charleston. It is. Do some research. Do some firsthand research and report back.

[00:59:32] And it's, it's a very, it's a tough season, like you said, because not just because of them, but I think that it is. It's tough on Craig being kind of an adult going into this, but yet they're giving him such a hard time. Like, I just, I love Craig. I do. I love Craig. Yeah. Yeah.

[01:00:00] But they are giving him such a hard time on the show about being a grownup. And that's hard for me to watch because I'm like. And he's like. But you know. He's a grownup. You know. I have businesses and a mortgage. It's like, I like gardening because it looks nice. Look at my new grill. Over for a barbecue. I got the pool for us. I got it so all of us can hang out here.

[01:00:30] He's like, it's so that we don't have to go pay money at the bar. We don't have to do that. Everything is here for us. And I love that. Like, this is like. Hey, I want him as a friend. Like, I'm going to hang out at the pool with you and grill some hot dogs. Let's do it. I will totally come and hang out here. I don't understand. I don't need to be there either, Craig. Like, that's what adults do. I know. It's just. Oh, I just found the name of the restaurant that they opened.

[01:00:59] It's called By The Way. Yeah. It's a cozy den. Let's see. I'm looking at it. It's real pretty. Ideal all day, all night neighborhood hangout. The spot where friends old and new come together on the regular for good food, killer drinks, and great fun.

[01:01:27] And like the inside of it, the couple pictures that I'm seeing look very lush, you know, like brown leather and like gold curtains and things like that. But yeah, it's the two of them together. So now who's the grown up, right? I'm glad that Austin has his own establishment to sell trot pop so that he doesn't have to ask anybody else. So he doesn't have to take it to every barbecue and be like, are you not drinking trot pop? Are you not drinking trot pop? What are you doing?

[01:01:57] I brought a keg of trot pop. Let's let's. And it's like Whitney every time is always like, no, I'm not drinking trot pop. I'm not. They got the whiskey bar so that they could continue to hang out with Whitney because that's all he's drinking. He's like, I'm not drinking. I'm going to feel like she's around grownups. I'm like, I'm not drinking trot pop. Goodness. No. I love a good scene with Whitney. He annoys me sometimes, but he has some of the best like facial expressions or one-liners. He's good. I love it. I love it.

[01:02:27] And it is, you know, the, especially when, when his mom, Miss Pat is trying to explain to him, like all the details that goes into keeping the house. And Whitney's like, I'm just gonna, that's fine. I'm going to have like a couple of parties every once in a while. Change the sofa out. It's a lot of pink in here. A lot of stuff going on in here. There's a lot of little. Give me florals. We're not going.

[01:02:58] I love it. Yeah. Well, look up sometime the pictures from, by the way, um, let's see their restaurant and all. It's beautiful. And, um, it'll be interesting to see like how it does, but I mean, they do have like steak and fries, but like beautifully cooked steak with like a side of fancy French fries. Right. So. Sounds expensive. So that type of place, that type of place.

[01:03:27] Um, so yeah, that's that on, um, Southern charm, you know, and we can briefly mention, just pour one out for our Vanderpump friends. Um, no more Vanderpump rules as we currently know it, there will be a new season, um, starting filming this year. Uh, in just a couple months, I think they're starting to film, but they do already have

[01:03:54] the cast and the, everything set up for a new batch of pumpers. If you will. It was time. I mean, I miss the old cast. I liked them a lot. Yeah. But it was time. The same drama for however many years, 10, 11 years was just. And last season ended the montage ended perfectly. Like it would be hard to just like come up with something else. It's pretty hard to come back from that. Yeah.

[01:04:22] Like you showed me from like the time I was first on the show till the time, like I'm walking out of this party. So I'm going to take the hint that maybe this is it. Well, I saw this, uh, clip from Sheena Shay's podcast and Sheena was like, you know, we didn't know until we got the letter on such and such day. And I'm like, girl, everybody else knew. What are you talking about? We know a good indie montage and we see it. We've been around this a lot. Everybody else knew. What are you talking about? You heard yesterday.

[01:04:52] No, you didn't. You just didn't want to believe it until yesterday. You are ditzy. You need to stop. Yeah. So we'll be on the Valley with, with, um, I think she and, um, Lala are going to be having some Valley time, which I'm fine with. Sure. The Valley's the grownup version and they still have drama and funny times. So I'm all for it. I liked the Valley. I'm getting there. It was fun. I watched the first season. It was fine.

[01:05:22] I'll watch the second. Yeah. It'll be different now that Brittany and I was about to say, it's all different now in that there's another couple in there that got divorced as well. Oh yeah. The Michelle and the, yeah. Yeah. The guy. I remember her. I think her name's Michelle. Yeah. Yeah. I can't remember his name, but they're separated as well or divorced, whatever. I don't know. So, so it's all going to be different. And now you throw in Sheena Shea. What? Things get crazy up in the Valley now. Brock needs to be on a dad show.

[01:05:52] He is the ultimate dad. So he needs to, to have dad friends that to hang out with. I feel like Brock's going to end up on the, on the food network. Oh, does he cook? No, I don't think so. But I think he's going to be one of those guys. Like, I just feel like he's that guy. Okay. So, um, Oh, speaking of we'll wrap it up super quickly, but are you gonna watch Megan's new show?

[01:06:17] It got delayed because of the fires in California, which I appreciate that. And that's nice of her to do. It has been announced that Megan Duchess. Megan is going to be, um, releasing her show in March now on Netflix. I will give it a go because I know Harry makes an appearance. I've always going to support Harry. Correct. I will see how the show goes. How about that?

[01:06:44] I will see how the show goes. You watched the trailer. I did. I see. I understand how the show is going to go, but I need to see how this is going to go. Like I get the concept. You're going to pull me in. I don't just want to watch you make avocado toast every episode. Make food that I will eat and that I will serve to my family. Well, and she's going to tell you how to go pick fresh flowers out of your garden and where to put them. I got a farmer's market for that.

[01:07:13] They're already put together for me. They're a nice bundle for $10. Very inexpensive. I can get the $10 bunch of money for 20. Yes. And it's nice. Like, I don't need to pick out of my own garden. You know, and I just feel like it's, I just feel like it's been done. This show has been done. It's been done too much, you know? And I don't, and I think it's just purely because it's Megan that.

[01:07:42] I want her to open that store and respond to my email that I sent to join the list before we move on to other things. I know. One thing at a time, Megan. I don't know if we're waiting on my candles or if we are waiting on my jam. She's going to be making, she's going to be making the jam and the candles in the show. And then I'll get the email that I can join.

[01:08:07] She's like in one of the clips, she's like putting leaves on the top of a cake. And she says, I just have always enjoyed taking regular things and elevating them. And I'm like, yeah, like your status in Hollywood, you know, like just, she's just something about it just doesn't feel genuine. It doesn't feel real.

[01:08:33] And if you're going to show us this and put this production behind it, people need to kind of believe it. I feel like with you, I feel like she set herself up for that. I know it's not going to happen, but I would a hundred percent watch a show where they move back to England and maybe not resume their roles as senior royals, but be there to like, start working on family things. You know what I mean? Like we're back in the country. The kids are around their cousins.

[01:09:03] They have that relationship. We're reestablishing a relationship, but I would 100% watch a show where she's like getting accustomed to the English life. Dude, I might invest in it. Like I would a hundred percent go to a production company and say, how can I back this? Yeah. Like that type of, that's how I want to see them. Yeah. Like go to a farmer's market or meet English friends. Yeah. I'll watch behind the, like where they, I would be fully supportive of her sitting in the little

[01:09:32] confessional room being like, dude, that sucked having dinner at Buckingham palace because those people were so boring. You know, like I would, I would. Over for tea. I would love this. Have what's the cousin usually and usually for like, just like a, Hey. Or a kid play date. A kid play date. Yeah. Like. I would love that. But I need, I need it to be more relatable.

[01:10:02] This in Montecito, in your garden, in your well-lit kitchen, that's not even really your kitchen. I'm not buying. No, I'm not going to do any of that. No. I have soccer practice to get to. And yes, I have real mom things to do and including talking about you on the next episode as in, in that's the reason I'm going to watch it.

[01:10:29] That's the reason I'm going to watch it is because I need to see what we're going to talk about and how we're going to kind of make fun of it. Let's be honest. Okay. I'm like you, like you said, if maybe I would have received a candle by now. I might, I might have given you benefit of the doubt, but this. I'm upset that this is the new venture before I even got an email back from you.

[01:10:56] Like this, this type of show is just what pisses me off. That's all. Yeah. America is not happening. Just say that. Well, this is why I always liked Rachel Ray. Okay. I always loved Rachel Ray because she did the 30, 30 minute meals, right? I think so. Yeah. 30 minutes. It was like real food that was like real quick. And she was kind of sloppy, kind of dirty, kind of worked at the Holiday Inn back in the day. Yeah.

[01:11:27] That's why I always was like, okay, I can get behind this because I believe it. You just showed it to me. But I cannot get behind putting decor of leaves and berries from my fresh garden on my lemon meringue pie that I just baked while my kids were with the nanny. Right. Right. I don't know. I'm a chicken coop. Oh, brother. You get to whip them up. Hold on. This needs an egg.

[01:11:57] Let me just go check the coop. Yeah. Yeah. So, and then she can have all the guests on there she wants. I mean, whoop-dee-doo. The only guest I want to see is Zara Tensdale or like Eugenie or Precious Anne. Go ahead. Get them on there. If you have them on there, I'm like watching every single episode. I don't want to see these people. No. I see them on other shows. I don't. I know. They're not interesting. And they're just loving it because they're hanging out with you.

[01:12:26] Like they're not in this because like, I don't, I don't buy that y'all are besties. No. I just feel like they're watching it because, or that they're on the show because they're just like, oh, we're like friends with the Duchess. We've met her before. We're at the same event. So I agreed to show up here today. Well, I think we'll have some stuff to watch, obviously. Come March now.

[01:12:57] I would like to resume whenever we have our trial information. If it goes to trial for Justin and Blake, we will determine if we do weekly or daily even recaps during a trial, like a little 10, 15 minute, what just happened. I could get behind that. And then we will be on date watch for Craig and page. Yeah.

[01:13:24] And the new Vanderpump cast. We'll see if they're too young for me to watch. Cause I kind of feel like they might be, I might just have to watch the Valley. And now we have, uh, Megan to watch in March with love. Chick chat. So we'll come back in March. We'll definitely maybe even before that, obviously.

[01:13:51] Um, if we can do it in February and prepare ourselves to get ready for the big launch in March, might have to break down some more details. I'm sure we'll know more by then. Um, to everyone on the West coast, we're thinking of you in the horrible fires that have been going on. Um, thank goodness Megan has delayed her show because I'm sure that is really what you guys needed. Um, otherwise Jeanette, good to see you. Good to see you.

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