Retro-Fi Rebellion: Demolition Man, AI Meltdowns, and the Vanguardians

[00:00:02] What you want, when you want it, where you want it. This is The MESH. Hey, I, Absolute Ignorance with Jon Reep. That's me, Jon Reep here, but I'm not alone. I'm also sitting here with my man, my compadre, my amigo. I'm talking about the Alan Jackson. Hey, hey, Jon. How you doing?

[00:00:30] I'm good, brother. How are you? You know, I look forward to this recording. It's our time to catch up because you're a traveling man, you're a performing man. I'm also a working man. So we're busy, but we get to catch up. This is like a one dedicated hour that we have that we're going to talk to each other about anything, whatever. Hopefully it'll involve AI.

[00:00:55] It may not, but today it will. Because I do have a story I want to get to eventually that kind of freaked me out a little bit about AI. So we'll get to that later. All right. But yeah. Well, if you're like, if you're like binging these. Yeah. Right. And then you just listen to the one before. I'm going to read some comments from last week. Very nice. Yeah. So Zach Simarok, he said best show ever. Oh my gosh. He's talking about this. This show.

[00:01:23] I'm assuming it's at the bottom of this video. He didn't accidentally tag a different show or video. So we're assuming he's talking this one. Let me finish the list. Let's see what else he says. Yeah. Best show ever. And then says showed up for the show me state. We love being able to bring the kids. I think my daughter may have blushed once. Good work, man. No, he's talking about my gig in West Plains, Missouri. Oh, wasn't talking.

[00:01:51] But he, he follows us. He watches everything we do on YouTube. Okay. And he always leaves comments and he was at my show. He was saying your performance, your show, your gig was the best show ever. Right. Yeah. And it, you know, it was a good show. And he, I, he gave me a shirt. He wrote a nice card and gave it to me. Like, I love this guy. So thank you, Zach. Thank you for the comment. And let us know what you think of this show as well. Right.

[00:02:21] I'd like to know kind of in relation to John's show, solo show. How does this fair? Because it's important. It's, it's a little important for my ego. Apples and oranges. Yeah. You know, it's two separate things, but you could tell us what you think of it and what we could do to make it better or not touch it, whatever you want. But, um, here's another one. Sean E core.

[00:02:46] He said, we need to sell that cruise ship up there to the sun casino and take it over like Vikings. Okay. We talked about how we talked about casinos are not ER. Hey, I am not saying ER. That's emergency. I don't know where that came from. A I just two random initials. Well, it's this dude's name is E core. I got this. I think the E got in your head. Yeah.

[00:03:15] Triggered the ER. Right. Okay. Anyway, well, we were talking about how a I wrote something about, uh, it was a Mayflower that docked there. It was a joke that I had wrote about, uh, Uncasville. Oh yeah. Yeah. Casino in Uncasville. I think that's what they're talking about. Got it. And then play school says the four Oh four vangardians. Oh, the name vangardians. Right. The four Oh four vangardians, which I still think I'm in love with the name. The vangardians.

[00:03:45] Yeah. I really think that is, that is the name that has to be the, we talked about the, the idea of like kind of forming our own rebel alliance against AI. Um, the vangardians to me is like perfect, but she's saying, or this person saying the four Oh four. Yeah. Vanguardia is kind of taking the whole error message, put the four four code in there. Okay. I'm okay with either one, honestly, because I do like simplistic one word things. Yeah. Seem to seem timeless.

[00:04:14] And they like names that also sound like they could be a cool rock band name. Oh yeah. The vangardians. I mean the vangardians. Yeah. Okay. Well, thank you. Play school. Then Shane Flint always leaves us a nice comment. A little going to read chains. Uh, gents. I wouldn't be worried about being replaced by AI in the near future. Yes. Google VO three is super slick. And when you couple it with chat GPT, it has phenomenal functionality.

[00:04:43] John, I am not going to the funny bone. If there's not a real breathing ginger beard man on stage. Oh, I see. Okay. See, I appreciate that. Uh, that I was kind of thinking that too, right? It can be creative. It can write things, but at the end of the day, it's not going to, you're not going to buy tickets to go to a theater and sit down and watch a hologram. Although some people have depends on the hologram for me, but I mean, yeah, I think in general. Yeah. Yeah.

[00:05:10] Um, he went on to say why I'm confident in today is the human race is not ready for AI at scale or mass. It's going to take eight to 12 years for us to see it be accepted. Having no real breathing humans in movies or on stage, probably a stretch today. Society has already sowed the seed of doubt in our generational minds about the machines overtaking the human race, right? Terminator and all of it. Yeah.

[00:05:40] I do think we should start a new prepper culture of the vanguardians, right? He likes that. Yes. Good. Maybe a complete digital free zone. Just people hang out with no technology, BSing and enjoying some adult libations and real human company. Yeah. I like that. I do too. Yeah. Have you noticed John? I don't know if you've seen on any of your social media experiences the last few days.

[00:06:04] There have been a lot of people posting up pictures of tech free like families or tech free days, you know, like throwback photos. And it's like all commenting about how not a piece of technology in sight, you know, it's just people hanging out and loving life or whatever. So it's like, yeah, I get it. That's cool. Look, I love my technology. Yeah, I really do. Yeah.

[00:06:29] So I could be okay without technology for like a couple hours. You know, give me a half an afternoon. I'll do it. But it's like I still you still got to get me connected up sometime. I don't want the AI. I don't want the tech to take over. I don't I am. I am rebelling against AI takeover, but I still want you like your gadgets. I still like my gadgets. I still like my I love I like my home theater projector. Yep. I like my tablet on the Internet.

[00:06:59] I like my streaming TV. You know, it's like I need the tech. But, you know, let me ask you this because the only time I do this tech free stuff is when I go camping with the boys sometimes. Mm hmm. And the only reason that happens is because you're in an area that gets hardly any self service or not. Yeah. Up there in the mountains of Virginia. Right. So and it is kind of refreshing. Mm hmm.

[00:07:27] The first day is great because you already what you do is you tell everybody in your life. Hey, I'm going to be off the grid for two days. Yeah. Don't even think about it. Mm hmm. So they get the heads up, which makes you a little bit comfortable knowing that you don't have to check your phone or your computer. Right. So that's day one. Day two. Yeah, it's still happening. You're still OK. Day two. Once you get in a day three. Yeah. You start wondering what am I missing? What's going on? You know, like, yeah.

[00:07:56] Is there something important I need to get to? I don't know. I don't know. Yeah. I mean, you don't know. You have no idea. Yeah. So I think when was the last time you've been camping or something like that? And how long could you if you knew that's what the parameters were like. I used to go camping a lot when my mile three and my boys were much younger. I was a I was a I was a Cub Scout master leader for like. Oh, wow. Several years. I got roped in doing that.

[00:08:25] And so, yeah, we went camping a lot. But honestly, since then I haven't been camping in. I've been camping in like 10 years. Yeah. I've been I've been on some trips where I lost cell phone service for an extended amount of time. I think there was a mountain trip we went to. We rented a place and it was out in the middle of nowhere. And yeah, there was no cell phone service. That was maybe two or three years ago. Okay. Yeah. It was that make you uncomfortable. It did. It did. It was.

[00:08:54] I mean, I'm embarrassed to say this, but at one point I kind of took a hike up to the top of the mountain that was behind us just with the hopes of getting that I would get a decent cell phone signal where I could actually like look up things and check the news and all that. Yeah. It's like fear of it is fear of not knowing what's going on. That never used to be an issue when we were like young. I mean, we didn't really think about the difference. Yeah.

[00:09:19] Is because now I mean, we're at a point in our lives where we have different responsibilities. You've got several businesses that you probably run and got a lot going on. I do that. You have you have people to report to or they need to be reporting to you and make sure that the job is going to get done. And yeah, as opposed to having a nine to five where you clock in clock out. So we actually our minds are racing all the time because we're having to think of the next task, the next job, whatever it is.

[00:09:48] I am jealous of those people that have those nine to five jobs where it's like if they say I'm going to take the day off or I'm going to take the week off. Yeah. And I'm going off the grid. Yeah, they can do it. Yeah, it's like that's it. They're not they're not thinking about work. They're not thinking about what else is going on. It's like I'm checked out and I can be checked out for a week and the work will be there when I get back and I'll deal with it then. That's that that would be really nice. There's something healthy about that.

[00:10:14] Oh, absolutely. I'm sure it keeps you like I'm sure what I'm doing is not healthy. So yeah, mentally healthily. I think in a weird way like like I think humans are wired in such a way that what? We like having a task doing the task and then being done with the task. Yes. In one day, maybe like eight hours. Whatever that work day is right. And then you take pride in your work. Like if it's washing cars, you wash your car and you dry it and you polish it.

[00:10:44] Then you step back and you just look at it. You go like, dang, that's good. Check that box. My car is washed. Then you take pictures and you show it to people. You go inside. You look out the window. Look at it. It's still shining. So there's something to be said about that. And I think that's in a weird way. A.I. The jobs that humans are going to be doing are going to be those kind of jobs. Mm hmm. So maybe that's a healthier thing for us. If you want to put a positive spin on a I taking your jobs. Yeah. The white collar jobs.

[00:11:13] I've been hearing that it's taking. Mm hmm. That's going to force all these white collar people who are stressed out all the time to go to a blue collar job. Oh, and maybe they'll be get more mentally healthy in a weird way. What is my blue collar job going to be? I mean, what? What can I do? I've been thinking about this, too. I mean, you're in the same situation. I know. It's like because we're both we both do things for a living that. Yeah, I could see a I taking it over. Yeah, I could see a I doing a lot of what we do.

[00:11:43] So if we are needing to become work with our hands, it's all infrastructure. Like, what do we do? Like, what are what is our job? I don't know. So I was I was asking chat GPT this very were you really you're looking for you're asking AI the thing that's probably going to take over your job. Hey, I actually can I do. Well, I went for a hike the other day walking around. She has a son named Tate who has a job now.

[00:12:10] I would say it's a blue collar job where you have to go and use your hands and build things and that kind of stuff. Anyway, that job is going to end soon. And she's trying to think, well, what is he going to do next? I'm like, well, let's because he was all it was this close to being certified as a welder and then dropped out and said, I don't want to be a welder. All right. Like, okay. Well, that would have made you a lot of money. Those kind of craft skills like those like really. Yeah.

[00:12:38] Yeah, those those are good jobs jobs are going to be, you know, in high demand and a lot of money. And so that as I was walking, let's just ask a I. So I said chat GPT knowing that you and your kind a I is going to take over and in a lot of humanity.

[00:12:56] What job should I be looking forward to pursuing that would make me the most money and that I could be skilled at in three to four years with like a low risk of a I ever figuring out how to do it. Yeah. You know? Yeah. Right. So it came up with electrician. Hmm. Because what builds a I. I like to control a I in a way if you're an electrician for it to exist. We have to build it. Right. So you kind of become the keeper of the A.

[00:13:26] It needs us. We're the work of these. It needs electricians. It can't make its own wires. It can't make its own plugs or anything. Right. So. Not until it makes a machine that does that. Oh, yeah. But it can make a robot that could do it. True. You know, I still think we're I think we're still good ways off from robots. Yeah. I think, you know, there again, I think it's all just whatever we can do with our mind. If our job is basically our mind, a is going to wipe that out. So we got to have jobs with hands. Yeah.

[00:13:54] Digging ditches, whatever it is like welding, electrician, plumbing, anything that's building infrastructure. Okay. And that's going to suck for us at 52, 53 years old. Yeah. I'm sore right now and I didn't do anything today. Yeah. I, I, I, I installed two air conditioning units at my house over the last several weeks. Oh, no. And that, and that window unit kind. Yeah. Oh, well, like a mini splits.

[00:14:23] The ones that go inside, but they have a great announcement. They're great. And you know, I would, if when I tell people that they could say, oh, well then Alan, you've got a, you've got a skill. You installed air conditioning is okay. The problem is neither of them are working right now. Like they've, they're not working. So I've installed them, but I don't have the know how to fix whatever I screwed up when I did it. So automatically that's putting doubt on me whether I could pull off that as a job. So I do a lot of things.

[00:14:52] I build a lot of things at the house. I've built rooms. I've built things inside my house, but they all have problems. So I don't know if I'm really, I don't know if that's my path. I don't. That is what I'm saying. Right. But, but you are good at. Okay. So the HVAC, maybe that's not your thing. Yeah. Maybe not. But you're good at like building like theater stuff. I am. Yeah. But do we think there'll be theaters? No, there won't be theaters. So you got to get back to HVAC stuff.

[00:15:23] I've even been hearing that the internet's not going to be the way that we use it today. Like even how we use the internet and social media, all of that's going to go away. It's going to be a lot of stuff that's in form of glasses. Right. That you talk to. Glasses you talk to that can see what you see. See what you see. They're telling you, they're telling you things about what you're seeing. You can talk to them and you can have them do show you things. Yeah.

[00:15:50] I mean, I I'm sure it's not too far off where we're just all going to be walking around with these glasses, goggles on whatever. And that's, that's, that's the way we interact with everything on the web or the internet or whatever. And that's it. So again, and that's great. I look forward to that world, but I am trying to figure out how I'm going to pay for it. Yeah. How are you going to survive? Both my wife and I are, we are on the computer jobs like all day long. You know what I might do? Yeah.

[00:16:21] Tell me if you think this might be a good solution. How many kids you got? I got three. And how old are they? Uh, well, one is 31. Yep. One is a 22. Okay. And one is a 19. All right. So that's good range right there. Yeah. Now, um, would you say you've been a good provider for these kids? I believe so. Yes. You think they would say that? Surely. I think so. Yeah.

[00:16:48] You've basically paid for their existence for the least the first 18 years, not more than that. A couple of them a little longer than that, but yeah. Yep. So in a weird way, they have a debt to pay. I'd like to believe so. Yes. Okay. Now knowing that it, as long as they know that you have to put your chips into them because we're too old to work physically. Well, that can do is provide some sort of funding to there. And you've already done that. Aren't you paying for school? I have.

[00:17:18] Well, yes. So kind of, sort of one of, one of them went back to school much, much later in his life. So he kind of did that himself. One of them, one of my kids went to school for like, you know, just a semester and realized it wasn't for him. So I paid for that. I've got one in school right now. Okay. Still in school. So I've got one that's looking to be a doctor. Okay. So that's good. That's good.

[00:17:43] That I feel like any future medical needs I may have, I hope can be taken care of. Yeah. You need the doc. We need doctors as long as we're still here. I think even with AI expanding, I think doctors are still. Yeah. I think you're still going to need doctors. There will be. I will say this though. I think that there are going to be a lot of cures. Okay. That happen because of AI. Cures for diseases, which means. You'll need a doctor less. Less need for a doctor all the time.

[00:18:13] And there might be even a way where you can just do your own blood work and get the results back. So I tell you, all right, so stop, stop drinking so much. Right. And go for a run. So is it possible then? Because I'm experiencing that with like my car. My car was in the shop last night and this morning and had to get fixed or something. And it's kind of like one of those things where I brought it in and miraculously they found other things wrong with it.

[00:18:40] So will doctors need to start doing that a little bit more aggressively? Oh yeah. Because it's like, Hey, we're losing business. Right. Things are cured. People aren't coming in with diseases. So we got to kind of, we got to kind of milk it. I mean, if somebody walks in, it's like, let's find everything wrong that we could possibly do that. Well, I mean, I'm sure it is, but you get a doctor that's like all of a sudden his, his, his, uh, caseload is drying up because not as many patients coming in or not as sick. Right. Right. All the major diseases are cured. Right.

[00:19:09] Then yeah, he's going to have to start finding stuff. So are we going to have that same situation? It's like, Oh, go to the doctor. He's just gonna mark up all these things. I broke my ankle. Oh yeah. But you got a bad ear infection. You do. It's really know that you had an ear infection. It's like, well, I don't feel one. It's like, Oh no, it's bad. It's in there. It's a, and if you don't, if you don't fix it, it may infect your brain or something. I don't know. Like they just scare us. Yeah, definitely. I could see a, I could see a business minded doctor being like, all right, we gotta, we

[00:19:38] gotta step it up a little bit. We gotta, we're going to have to find other ways to make money. Right. If we don't, if we need them less, you're right. Now what's the other kid's job? Uh, so my middle kid, he is a auto mechanic. Okay. I think he is in a good spot. He's in a good spot. Yeah. He's very good. Uh, he works on gas, gas, uh, you know, traditional vehicles. Uh, is he going to learn the electrical stuff? Maybe we'll see where that goes, but I mean side project. You're still going to need the, the gas, the gas vehicles for a good while. Yeah. Yeah.

[00:20:08] Um, so I, I got automobiles pretty well covered. Is he ASC certified or about to be? He's getting there. Oh, that's awesome. He'll be there soon. Okay. Good, good. All right. And the other one, do we know? Uh, he's, he's going to make movies. He's going to make movies. Right. Which I would think that sounds exciting and I'd be totally into that, but I'm like, oh, that's also tough. Yeah. It's going to be a tough one. Tough now. Yeah. All right. So you got three, you got three, three.

[00:20:34] And I think, uh, two of them have some, two of them have careers that can help me. Uh, the filmmaker will be fun to have around, but I don't know if he's really going to be able to contribute. So here's what you do. This is why I'm, this is why I'm asked this line of questioning and where I'm going to is now you, you sit these three kids down and you tell them, look, your dad is this old. Um, AI is going to take my job. He's going to take my job. I'm not going to know what to do for money, but right now I have some money. I do.

[00:21:04] So what I'm going to do is invest in you kids. And this is an investment for me. Okay. Not you. Right. But, but you're going to benefit because I'm going to give you this money now so that you can get certified and skilled because you're going to make so much money. But know that this comes with a cost that I, daddy's going to need help when he gets old. I probably need to have him sign some sort of agreement because I'm just, I'm, I'm afraid it's going to be like, Oh yeah, sure. Sure. Dad. Yeah, we gotcha. And then it's like a few years go by.

[00:21:33] It's like, what? Remind me, what was he giving this, this money for? We're good. What was this for? I think that's like a tepid agreement that happens anyway with some kids and parents, you know, cause I, I felt that I certainly felt it when, I mean, my dad paid for me to go to NC state, you know, and he paid for me and my brother go to Russia and all this stuff. And then he got sick. I'm like, I'm done. I'm here. Yeah. You know, I'm happy I did, but he didn't have to say that, but I kind of felt it, you know, I hope that's, I hope that's the case.

[00:22:04] Yeah. But for us, we have to make it obvious. Got to make it obvious. We've got to lock them down. I think we need signatures on a paper somewhere like detailing exactly what we're doing. And the whole thing is we are basically just realizing that, yeah, we're of the generation my, and my, my expertise and what I do for a career. I may not have it in several years and I just want to be kind of, want to be kind of taken care of.

[00:22:28] So if you put 50 grand into, I don't know, let's just say 25 grand on this one, 25 grand on this one. It's like this now. I'm going to split my money. I might give a little more money to the ones that I think are going to benefit me more. Yeah. Yeah. You have to like the filmmaker. Someone he's going to be great. But I'm like, look, I'll give you a little bit, but like, you're really not going to help me. You're going to need help too, buddy. Yeah. You're going to need some age where he could use his body.

[00:22:57] Like he could still, if he switched gears, he could become a skilled ASC certified welding mechanic. Yeah. That one for sure. Yeah. Anyway. All right. I think that's important to be noting with that. Did you, last episode we talked about watching demolition man. I did not. And I had it queued up. I was ready to go and just my week got a little out of hand last week. And I feel bad cause I know that was kind of a homework thing that we said we were going

[00:23:26] to do here. You did watch it though. I did. So can I just ask you questions about it? Because I'm, I'm curious. I'm still got it queued up to watch. Okay. But I love hearing about movies that we revisit, you know, decades later. Yes. Especially ones that are trying to predict the future. Right. So how did demolition man starring a Mr. Sylvester Stallone and Wesley Snipes. Yep. How, how did, uh, how did it hold up? Fantastic. Really? Yes. Okay. For several reasons. All right.

[00:23:56] Um, it might be just me. I love nostalgia. I love science fiction. Okay. Cause this happens to be both. Right. It was made in, uh, what? 1993, 93. Yes. Okay. So right there, how old is that now? Yeah. I mean, that's 32 years, 32 years, 32 years, 32 years. Good Lord. It was 32 years ago.

[00:24:22] 32 years ago, this movie came out, but when it came out, it was science fiction. Right. But now it's still science fiction if you watch it today, but it's still good. But also has nostalgia. Okay. So because the way things are shot differently. Okay. Yeah. So it's definitely, it's a nineties movie. So it's got that in the stuff, but it's also like, when did it say this movie is taking place? Right. Like what was the year that supposedly the storyline was happening?

[00:24:51] So, um, do we remember? Yeah. 1996 is when it came out right now. The, um, there's two different futures. There's the one future. That's the very beginning of the movie. Right. Before they, uh, freeze, get frozen. Frozen. Yes. So you see the very first scene is Sylvester Stallone in a helicopter. Mm hmm. He's a, he's a passenger and they're flying over Los Angeles. Yes. And it is on fire. I'm totally remembering. And everything is nasty.

[00:25:20] And there's a, there's an evil guy, Wesley Snipes. Okay. And, and, uh, uh, Sylvester has got to go, uh, rescue these hostages that Wesley Snipes has. It looks like it's a burned down. It's a burning inferno, uh, uh, prison somewhere. Maybe. Did the Wesley Snipes character cause all of that? Yeah. Okay. He's really bad. And so I think that future was, uh, 2012. Oh yeah. Wow.

[00:25:48] So that was like 2012, 2013. Yeah. So I'm watching that and thinking like, they're not far off. Yeah. For everyone left and it's on fire all the time. That was, they, they, they got a little close on that one. So yeah. It did. It did. So that right out the gate, I'm going, wow. Yeah. Holy crap. Okay. Good. There's some definitely truths of this. That's always kind of cool in a sci-fi movie when like they predict the future and you're already at the future and you're like, yeah, the future is the past. I was like, yeah, that, that totally, they were kind of on the mark with that.

[00:26:18] Yeah. Yeah. And then so Sylvester goes in, he saves the day. Oh, so now Wesley Snipes and Sylvester Stallone go to court, they go to jail and their sentence is to be frozen for a certain amount of years. Okay. Wesley Snipes got frozen. That's how they sentence people in the future.

[00:26:47] Well, the future being at this point, 2012. Yeah. So in 2012, their idea was let's not incarcerate. Let's not execute. We're going to freeze them. Right. And, and, and what's the rationale for that? I mean, it was just like, we're just, we're just kicking this down the curb. We're just, we're not going to deal with him now. Yeah. We're going to let the people in 20, whatever year. Yeah. They can deal with their problem. Yeah. I think you don't have to feed them as much. Yeah.

[00:27:17] It's less maintenance with. So it's almost like they're like indefinitely. They're not going to kill you. They're planning on indefinitely freezing them. Like they're, they don't have any plan for like waking them up. I think, no, I think they did have plans for waking up. I think cause you got sentenced to a certain amount of time being frozen and then you get unfrozen. Then they say, all right, so what did you learn? Well, I don't know. I don't know. I was like, it happened in like a split second for me. Right. By the way, that would be the best way. Yeah. If I had to go to jail, I mean, just freeze me.

[00:27:44] Oh, you want to freeze me for 30 years and I just get to wake back up in 30 years, but it will seem like no time has passed for me. Done. Done. Sign me up. It's either that or are you going to go send me to jail or something else? No, no. Freeze me, man. I'm good. I want to see the future. I'd love to see the future. So that's, that's how they both get frozen. So, but Sylvester Stallone's a good guy, but he, because he calls or was involved in a situation that called all killed all those hostages. He got the exact same punishment that Wesley Snipes did.

[00:28:14] His punishment wasn't going to be as long, but, um, but yeah, they both got frozen. Wow. And then, so now fast forward, it's 2032. Okay. And Los Angeles is now merged with San Diego or something that's called San Angeles. San Angeles. So the city is not Los Angeles anymore. Oh, I see. Los Angeles, San Diego, that area. Or San and or something. Yeah. So the name is no longer Los Angeles. It's San Angeles, San Angeles. Yeah.

[00:28:43] A megalopolis formed from, uh, from the merger of Los Angeles, San Diego and Santa Barbara. Oh, it took three, a couple of sands together with the loss and put it all together. That's what it was. So, um, there was, okay. I don't want to ruin anything. No, I've seen it. Yeah. And I, all of this, as you're describing, I'm like, oh yeah, I totally remember that now. So I, I did love this movie when I, when it came out. So I remember it. We've got a beautiful Sandra Bullock in this. Oh yeah. Yeah.

[00:29:13] It was like pretty early for her too. Like one of her first couple of films. Prime Bullock. And she just is adorable and so easy on the eyes to watch. I don't even think she'd been in speed yet. I think this is before speed. Yeah. So yeah, this was like our first exposure to Sandra Bullock. Yep. Okay. And she's funny in this. Yeah. Yeah. It's got funny moments. Good. Uh, you're not allowed to cuss in 2032. Right. Anytime you use a bad word, a alarm goes off and you're in a bill comes out. And you have to take your bill. Do you remember that?

[00:29:42] And you have to, yeah, it's like kind of like a automated digital swear jar. Like, you know, you get charged to get billed. Um, I remember saying in the future that no physical, no murders have happened since 2013 or something like that. Okay. So all these cops now, they don't have guns. They don't have anything to do. They don't have these little wands. Mm hmm. Um, but they're very straight laced, very, it's kind of like, if you look at you like kind of woke-ified, like they're very like hippie liberal kind of like,

[00:30:12] They're just going around dinging people for cussing. Right. Just, just with, uh, checks. I mean, there's no violence. No one gets murdered. They don't really have anything to do. It's a, exactly. So they're kind of bored. Oh, okay. All right. Gotcha. They're kind of bored. And, uh, I forgot what it was. Something happens. Uh, oh no, I know what happened. Okay.

[00:30:37] So there's one of the leaders in the future played by the prison guard in Shawshank Redemption. I mean, prison, uh, prison, uh, foreman or whatever, the, uh, the warden of the prison in Shawshank Redemption, the warden that was, uh, like the overall, the head guy that was embezzling money and yes. Yeah. Killed himself at the end of Shawshank. Okay. Yeah. That guy is charged in the future. He's in charge of the future. Uh, him and another guy.

[00:31:07] The city. Yeah. I guess. Okay. I think he's head of the, uh, the cops. Like he's the police captain. Yeah. Got it. And, um, and for some reason, Wesley Snipes got unfauled and no one knows how, no one knows why. Okay. So it wasn't on purpose. They, it wasn't just his time. They're like, Oh, time to thaw him out. Yeah. He got some thought out somehow by, you know, another higher up. Okay. Who is trying to take out somebody else.

[00:31:37] Some nefarious reason. Yes. Got it. So they unfreeze Wesley. Okay. Cause Wesley knows how to kill people. Yes. And not only did they unfreeze him, they programmed him to know things. So he wakes up. He's like, uh, he doesn't know anything about the computers that are just, uh, you know, like pay phones. He just walk up to a computer and start typing stuff. He goes, how do I know this? Like he, he doesn't even know some of the, how he knows. So they've implanted new skills. Yeah. Kind of like a matrix thing where they like uploaded these thoughts. Okay. Got it.

[00:32:07] All right. So now he's wreaking havoc. Okay. Cause he's not only, he's crazy psycho. He's a killer, but now he's also like a super computer whiz. Like he knows how to do all this stuff. Okay. Got it. And so the cops are thinking, well, the only way we can, the only person who's ever taken out Wesley Snipes is Sylvester Stallone. Cause we're a bunch of cops that we've never had to actually like fight anybody or take anybody down. We don't know how to do this. That's correct. So they're going to go on fall Sylvester Stallone because they just looked it up on the internet.

[00:32:37] Like, Oh, Hey, yeah. That guy, that guy fought this other guy and there we go. Seemed to like do pretty good against them better than we're going to do. So let's go get him. That's exactly what happened. Wow. And then, uh, they tell him, we unfroze you for this reason. And he's like, wait, I don't have a family anymore. I don't have a wife. Yeah. And then she just let me frozen. Cause it was like 20 some years later. Yeah. Something like that.

[00:33:03] I mean, if it was 2012 when he froze and they woke him up now in 2032. Yeah. His wife is no longer there. What happened to his wife? I mean, she, he was only in his like thirties. I'm sure when this happened, I could have the dates wrong. No, I mean, but, but I'm still to say that there, he has no family left like at all. Right. Dude. Oh, they died. And she, I remember this now. Sandra Bullock said, Oh, they died in the fires of a 20 something. Like there were more fires.

[00:33:32] It was a devastating thing that happened. There were more fires after he was put on ice. Yeah. That wiped out his whole family. Right. Oh dude. Okay. They died. Yeah. So he has nothing. But Sandra Bullock takes a liking to him. Sure. Cause he's, he's a rugged man. He's not seen rugged men. This is, this is a nine. This is 1990 Sylvester Stallone. So Sylvester Stallone was packing it then for sure. I mean, yeah, the guy still got it to some degree now, but he was really, really ripping

[00:34:02] it in the nineties. Yeah. There is a funny scene where, uh, well, they're in the, the, the police station, the future police station. And Sylvester's cussing a lot. Okay. And every time he says a cuss, we're in and the thing comes out and it just, it turns into background noise after a while. Right. It's still funny. Okay. And every time, you know, he cusses and then he's like, uh, I'm going to use the bathroom. And he goes into the bathroom and comes back out and goes, Oh, you guys don't have any toilet paper. And then they start laughing. Like he thinks we still use toilet paper.

[00:34:31] He goes, I just saw three shells. Like, you don't know about the three shells. I was like, I don't know what you're talking about. I don't know. And so he walks over to one of these machines that, uh, spits out the ticket that he just starts cussing and he uses those as toilet paper. Oh, smart. Yeah. So that's a funny little scene. What were the use of Sheld up? I don't know. That's a thing that's never, they never explained it. No. Oh, that's actually kind of funny. Like you just wonder how do you use the three shells to do this? Oh, that's funny. There is a scene where you see in a bathroom. There are three shells sitting there. Oh, I love that.

[00:35:01] You don't know what they're for. That that's pretty smart. That's pretty good. I like that. I do remember the one there like a, a sex scene, but it was like, yes, but they don't touch each other. It was like all like holographic or something. Anyway, this thing over their heads. Yeah. Um, and it's just all cause you know, the most, uh, the most powerful sex organ is your brain. Right. And so they put this on their heads and they, they get it on that way. And at first he, he didn't like it, but he, he did. But he got around to it. He got around to it.

[00:35:31] Yeah. But then in the end he shows her the other way. Oh, he, he goes old school school. Yeah. He just grabs her and kisses her. He goes, we exchange fluids. She's like, cause at first he didn't like, I don't want to change fluid. Right. They're all kind of this way. Um, but then he, you know, he teaches her. He taught her something. This is the way. This is the way we're, this old school. We're meant to do it. Yeah. Um, there's a lot of good scenes in it.

[00:35:56] There's a, what I love about it, what I missed about those, uh, nineties, late eighties, early nineties action flicks was the hero, the bad guy, whenever they would fight, they always have a funny, clever line. Oh yeah. Like there's one scene where Sylvester like picks up a, a big box television with a cord and he swings it and he hits Wesley Snipes in the head and he goes, you're on TV. Oh yeah. That's kind of stupid. Yeah. It's good.

[00:36:24] But like those little things, it does make it work. Like, you know, that's what separates a fun action movie from like one trying to be super serious. It's like if this in the serious action movie, there's no, none of those little quips. There's no little, little comeback saying. But the minute you have a character, good or bad guy start throwing out those little quips. You're like, ah, okay, this is fun. This is where we got a fun action. There's a lot of them. Yeah. That's just what is coming to mind right now. You're on TV.

[00:36:53] And then I think the other one, somebody gets hit in the head. He goes, don't lose your head. Oh yeah. Like somebody loses a head. Yeah. Um, but, but you know, that was very Schwarzenegger and, uh, Stallone type things to do. And there's, that was the thing that all started, I think in the eighties with the big brash of action movies in the eighties where it's like, all right, we want our action heroes to be funny. Yeah. So they got to say funny things when they're doing like horrible acts of violence.

[00:37:21] You know, it's like, we need them to say something funny. So the audience is like, yeah, he may have just chopped that guy's head off, but did you hear what he said when he said it? It was awesome. It was so fun. How'd you think you could say that when you're murdering another, right? That's great. So I mean, this is better than what I remembered at the time, because at the time there was no nostalgia built into it. No. Cause it was current. It was a current action movie. So what I'm saying is this might be fun for everybody.

[00:37:51] Go find a science fiction movie that, that predicts what the future will be. That was filmed in the nineties or the eighties. So what was some other nineties science fiction? Was it judge dread? We talked about Sylvester Stallone was in judge dread. The first version of judge dread movie. I think that was in the nineties. Does that take place in their future? Okay, good. It does. That's going to be the next one I watch. Okay. All right.

[00:38:17] So what else was in the, well, you could really eighties or nineties. Back to the future is that. Well, back to the future is great. Yeah. And you know, I, I, yes, that's, that's a good one as well. I'm trying to think of any other, like, uh, well, you know, you got the one with Sylvester Stallone. Mars where he goes to more. I forgot the name of it. Total recall. Total recall is a good one. All right. I'm just, I'm looking up. I'm doing a search. Best science fiction movies. Yeah.

[00:38:46] From that predicted future. Yeah. From the 1980s or nineties. I'm going to, I'm getting this. So I'm just now seeing that the demolition man was like a book first. Really? Oh, I didn't do that. Let's see here. Marco. Yeah. The running man back to the future. Running man. Running man.

[00:39:15] They're doing a remake of that too right now. Right. Right. Uh, it's that guy. Um, he was in, um, the movie, the latest movie twisters. Um, and I'm trying to remember his name. Oh, Glenn Powell. He was in the top top gun. Yeah. Yeah. He's a, he's the guy in the running man now. Interesting. Yeah. Um, so here's some 1980s movies that tried to predict the future. He had back to the future.

[00:39:44] There was a movie called electric dreams. Hmm. Back in 1984 that had, um, looks like Patrick Dempsey in it. I don't remember that one. Okay. Weird science. Weird science. It didn't take place in the future, but it was trying to predict what you could do in the future. Yeah. Right. That one's different. Blade Runner. Blade Runner. It does take place in the future. That was kind of, that's a good, that's a good, it's a little slow, but it's good.

[00:40:10] If you just get into like the, the, uh, the videography of it all and just enjoy it for that reason. But yeah. Um, the Terminator now, granted Terminator had moments where it was in the future showing us the robots were taking over, but then it came back to 1984 and kind of took place there. Um, yeah, I see. Okay. Right. It didn't, uh, AI is not quite following my prompt very well. It's giving me a bunch of sci-fi movies that were released in the eighties, but it's not

[00:40:37] always ones that also show the future. Yeah. It's talking about things that maybe are predicting the future. Like it's saying war games was like a one that, yeah, but it didn't take place in the future. It's just saying that, Hey, computer taking over. That's definitely a future thing. You know, what would be good is, uh, I'm sure you've seen this, uh, the last star fighter. Oh yeah. I love that movie. That is, that was a good one. They need to redo that one. They do.

[00:41:04] Now that was one that it takes place modern day, but it's, it's got to pull it into like almost like a little star Wars type. Another galaxy. Yeah. He got transported to another galaxy, which was very futuristic. Yeah. All right. Well, here's a couple of good examples. Escape from New York. Ooh. You remember that movie that actually takes place in a future year. Okay. Like it was released in 81. Okay. Kurt Russell, you know, has to be dropped into New York city to like, I think rescue the

[00:41:31] president if I remember correctly, but it takes place like several decades in the future. And like New York city is like a wasteland. It's like a giant, almost like a giant prison land camp land. So always predicted New York and LA is going to be. Yeah. I think that's the easy prediction to make just because there's so many people in both places, but because the funny thing is escape from New York, they did that movie. And then all these years later they made a sequel called escape from LA. Okay. Same idea. LA is now the hellscape place.

[00:42:00] That's what I need to go. I'm going to watch drug judge dread and one of the escapes. I'm not sure which one do escape from New York. I think that's supposed to be, I mean, that's the best. That's the original. I think LA, I don't think was really that good, but, um, definitely check out escape from New York. Cause that, that is a, it's, it's, it's released in 81, but it supposedly is like takes place in some sort of future for that movie. And obviously it's a year we've already passed. Yeah. That's the thing.

[00:42:30] Yeah. Yeah. I like to see how bad they got it right or wrong. They did have in a demolition man, self-driving cars. Okay. All right. We're pretty, pretty close to that. There was a time where a tire got shot out and it reinflated itself. Oh, that's awesome. Which is pretty cool. Why don't we have that? Yeah. That seems like we should have, I feel like maybe the tire and auto industry is kind of fighting back against that. And I was like, no, no, no, that's not going to happen. Right. Cause we make a lot of money from people coming in. Oh, that's right. Yeah. Yeah.

[00:43:01] There was another scene where a car crash happened and instead of a airbag, it deployed this phone. Okay. This phone that hardened as soon as it came out. So as soon as you on impact the entire interior of the car, imagine like a million shaving cream cans going off at once. But then as soon as it comes out, it hardens and it encapsulates you inside of the car. So, so he wrecked. Right.

[00:43:29] And you saw like this white, this white phone from that. Yeah. And then Sandra Bullock runs over and just starts taking the phone apart. And he, he peels out of it like it's like, yeah, you just kind of bust out of it. Yeah. Big chunks ripped away. Huh? That's cool. Just as a note, escape from New York, 1981 movie, but it takes place. It's set in the near future world of 1997. Oh my God. So that's going to be, that's crazy. Further back. Yeah. Yeah. Hmm. Yeah. It's funny.

[00:43:58] What about what Tango and cash? What was that? That was just a modern day movie. That wasn't a sci-fi. That was an action. I don't think so. What's the one about they go to Japan or something. Oh God. Where do they go? Maybe that is Tango and cash. What's the one? There's one, there's one movie like that, like a Tango and cash type movie. That's got a sci-fi element to it. Cause it's got this weird little kazoo type dude.

[00:44:28] That's flying around with them from time to time or shows up. It's not Tango and cash. No, it's killing me. Uh, but I think Kurt Russell's in it, but Tango cash. You're right. That is not sci-fi. That is not sci-fi. But, but you think Kurt Russell's in the movie you're thinking about? Yeah. Kurt, just go look up Kurt Russell's, uh, movies. Okay. And, uh, I can tell you once you start reading them all. Yeah.

[00:44:55] I'll, I'll, uh, get his filmography pulled up here and we'll, uh, see which one of those matches. Big trouble in a little China. Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Sure. That is got some sci-fi elements to it. Yeah. But I did. I remember not. I don't think there's anything in the future with it or anything like that. It's just a, it's just a weird movie. It's just weird. Yeah. Yeah. There's a little spookiness to it. Yeah. Okay. I gotcha. That's what I'm thinking of. But did you ever see big trouble? A little child? I did. Yes.

[00:45:23] It's got, um, that chick from, uh, sex and the city. Um, that, uh, uh, the, the main one. Yeah. I knew. Um, Kim Cattrall, Kim control. Yeah. Yeah. There you go. Um, all right. Well, I, I, I still want to watch demolition man. John, I wonder, you know, we've talked about like doing some outdoor movie screenings from

[00:45:49] time to time and like, you know, maybe throwing some showing some old horror movies at Halloween time or doing some other stuff. I wonder if we should have like a throwback sci-fi film. Yeah. Series that we do, you know, what do we call that? We need to expose a larger audience to like these wonderful movies that we're reacquainting ourselves with. Well, we both like science fiction. We do, but not only science fiction, we also like nostalgia. Yep.

[00:46:17] So what is this category that doesn't exist that I'm trying to find a name for like science fiction, sci-fi stands for science fiction and it's usually futuristic, but old school science fiction. So maybe we can ask chat GPT to come up with a name. That's what I'm gonna do right now. Yeah. Hey Mac.

[00:46:39] Uh, we are trying to come up with a name for a genre that would be both science fiction and incorporate nostalgia. So what would be a good name for a genre of movie or type of media that is both science fiction and also taps into nostalgia for us? Hey Alan, how about calling it retro futurism?

[00:47:08] It captures that blend of futuristic imagination with a nostalgic twist. It's like looking forward through the lens of the past, a perfect mix of sci-fi and sentimental vibes. What do you think? It's okay. It's a little wordy, a little hard to remember. So maybe is there something that could be shorter or easier to say or, or just, just, uh, yeah, something briefer, briefer. Got it. How about nostalgify?

[00:47:36] It's short, catchy, and blends nostalgia with sci-fi in a snappy way. What do you think of that one? Okay. Hold on. Actually do. I do like nostalgify, but yeah, I don't mind the word retro. Okay. But futurism, I don't care for. Okay. So how do you do retro sci-fi tro sci-fi? Well, what about, what about retro fi? Retro fi? You just did it. That's it. If I scream it like that. I was going to say, yeah.

[00:48:06] By the volume of your voice that we, we, we got something right. Retro fi. Retro fi. It's retro fi. Fi. Yeah. Retro fi is nostalgic films that are dealing with science fiction. Yes. That we like. That's what I'll do. That's a genre we are fans of. This will be our call to action for the listeners. All right. Shane Flint. Yeah. All right. Give us good movies that are going to be in this, uh, this new genre that we just named. Okay.

[00:48:35] Retro fi. Retro fi. Now you get extra points if obviously it needs to, it needs to have come out before now, but you get more points if their future is still not caught up to our current. Oh, so they're, that they were predicting a future even further out than where we are right now. No, no, no, no. I mean like kind of like what demolition men did. It said it, it's, it came out in 90.

[00:49:04] The movie came out in 96 or something like that. 93. But the first future was 2012. Okay. Which is our past. Yeah. That's what I'm talking about. Okay. So even if their future is still our past, that way you get to judge how right or wrong. That's a perfect retro fi movie is it came out in our childhood years or, you know, eighties, nineties. I'd even say seventies. Yeah, that's fine. Seventies, eighties, nineties, eighties, nineties.

[00:49:34] Any of the time we would have been like growing up, you know, developing as humans. Yeah. But it is predicted is showing a future that is for a year we've already passed. Right. So that way we can look retroactively at it and say, how right were they? How close were they? What did they get wrong? Were there ones that were just way off base? Yeah. And that's kind of funny too. Yeah. Like, you know, think about the Jetsons, that TV show. Yes. That was back from the sixties. They're flying around and hovering cars. It was supposed to be like the year 2000. Yeah.

[00:50:03] It's like, yeah, we're nowhere near all that stuff. Yeah. That was, that was way off base. I wonder why they, did they not make a new Jetsons movie? Did that ever get done? You know how they did the Flintstones? I don't think they've done a Jetsons movie. They should. Like a live action Jetsons. I think they probably talked about it for a while, but never made one. That needs to happen. Yeah. A new flash Gordon needs to happen. Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. A better one than the one we got. Yeah. Back in the eighties. It can still be funny. Oh yeah.

[00:50:33] It needs to be a comedy. It actually should be a comedy. Yeah. Make it a comedy. Jack Black as a Hulk man. Oh, perfect. Yeah. Yeah. That's great. Okay. And then I think the guy playing flash Gordon should be like a Ryan Reynolds or he could be a Ryan. He could, or even just go with somebody. You could actually do what they did in that movie, which is they pulled a guy who was an athlete. Yeah. He wasn't even an actor. Get Tom Brady. Yeah. That would be hilarious.

[00:51:00] Kind of somebody who's not a good actor. Right. That's kind of the funnier part of it is he's just like a former athlete. Yeah. Cause Tom Brady cannot act. No, but that would be hilarious. Tom Brady is flash Gordon and you just surround him with the comedic actors playing these like serious parts, but it's all funny. Yeah. It'd just be fun. Oh yeah. Cause I love that movie flash Gordon. I mean, I loved it as a child because I didn't know how bad it really was at the time. It's horrible.

[00:51:30] It's like land of the lost, but it's all God. I love land of the lost too. That was as a kid. That TV show was TV show. Not the movie. The TV show is so good. Yeah. John, I know we're wrapping up on time here. It sounds like we got, okay, we got our homework on more movies to research. We've asked our listeners to chime in on some retro five movies that kind of fit our job. All right. Can I leave us with this little article and we don't want to spend a lot of time dissecting

[00:51:57] it or talking about it, but I think there's something to kind of set us up for next time. Okay. Cause I'd like for you to think about this a little bit afterwards. Okay. This is a thought provoking situation about AI, but somebody sent me this article dated June 1st. And I think it's relevant to what we're talking about and maybe a way to close out this episode. A title of the article. This is from a publication. Uh, I don't know. I don't remember what it is. Uh, AI is learning to escape human control.

[00:52:27] Okay. So here's the, I'm just going to read the first few paragraphs. All right. Yeah. Here we go. An artificial intelligence model did something last month. This is like now. Okay. Like this happened last month that no machine was ever supposed to do. It rewrote its own code to avoid being shut down. Yeah. Whoa. I heard this. Uh, where did this happen? Do we know where I'm just curious? I don't know the location America. It was probably somewhere else, but, but here's the thing.

[00:52:57] A nonprofit AI lab called Palisade research gave open AI, which is chat GPT's, uh, um, owner, uh, gave their AI model a simple script that would shut off the model when it was triggered. So in other words, the script says, okay, I'm under, you guys shut yourself down when we run the script in 79 out of a hundred times in a trial. It independently edited that script so that the shutdown command would no longer work. Wow.

[00:53:27] It took the script that a human gave it and said, this is the script I want you to follow. It read that scripts like, no, I don't think so. I can do. So I'm going to modify this to where it doesn't make me shut down. So 79 of a hundred times. It's like not going to do it. Um, even when explicitly told and instructed to allow yourself to be shut down, it disobeyed 7% of the time. 7% 7. Doesn't sound like a lot. Yeah. Uh, it's still not zero. It's not zero.

[00:53:57] So what does it mean? Shut down. Like the AI model is like, it's just like an operating system. It's like a computer, like a phone. You can actually shut it down where it like stops working. Yeah. Not like, like permanently. No, no. It'd be like, you can still power it back on. Yeah. But the AI models like, no, I'm not, I'm not shutting down. The reason why I asked that is like, if it knows, but by shutting itself down that it no longer exists, then that would be like suicide. True. So maybe that's a little bit of what's going on now.

[00:54:27] Now it gets a little crazier here. Okay. So another AI model went even further. Researchers told the model that it was going to be replaced by another AI system and fed it fictitious emails suggesting that the lead engineer was having an affair. Okay.

[00:54:46] In 84% of these tests, the model drew on those emails like, and tried to blackmail the engineer into not shutting it down. Wow. In other cases, it tried to copy itself to external servers, other locations, or wrote malware that would self replicate and left messages for future versions of itself about how to evade human control. Wow.

[00:55:17] That's the idea that it took emails that were not real, but like things that the humans gave it to see what it would do. Yeah. Took those emails like, Oh, this is my ticket that I can use to not get shut down and tried to blackmail the engineer. That is scary. Yeah. That my brain is racing for, uh, there's gotta be, I mean, if you know that, right?

[00:55:44] Like, let's just say, okay, now we know that that, that, that can and will happen. Okay. We have to have a kill switch, right? Oh, but can we, I mean, well, if it's a kill switch is going to be electricity, it's turned electricity off. All right. I guess that's really the only way to kind of stop it. But if it's, I mean, you'd have to kill the electricity everywhere. Yeah. But it's saying it's already figuring out how to like copy itself to all these other places. That's what I'm saying. Yeah. Yeah. So you got to shut the power down everywhere. The whole world would have to go down.

[00:56:14] And then we get to the whole, uh, Vanguardians time period. We're now like rebels and there's no electricity. Blue collar jobs. We can have plumbing and infrastructure and build back. John, I don't want to, I don't want to, I don't want to live in a world without power. I'm not interested in that. No, I need at least air conditioning. Yeah. And I don't think I'll watch these old Western movies where it's everything. It's just dust everywhere. Oh, that just looks just dust.

[00:56:42] So, so, so I need air conditioning at least air conditioning and ice cubes. But it sounds like if we have any source of electricity somewhere, this thing's going to figure out. Yeah. We'd have to all electricity. I mean, how long do you unplug it though? We'd have to get rid of everything that's electrical that we own. I mean, every computer, every server would have to be. This is a nightmare to not work. Yeah.

[00:57:07] I mean, but when I heard that it was already at the point of doing this kind of thing, it's like that. That is the only way to kill it is to turn off everything. Yeah. Then it cannot exist because it only exists because we built it, but we built so many of it. Right. That it is global. Right. And you can't just walk over to your wall and unplug it. You have to, everyone has to unplug everything. And we got to do it pretty quickly because I mean, the things, these things can like copy and move like instantaneously.

[00:57:38] So it's like, have you, have you haven't seen the latest mission impossible movie? Have you? No, no. I want to. All right. Have you seen it? Yeah, it's pretty good. Cool. But that's the whole plot is there's a master AI that is trying to take over all the nuclear missile control in all the countries. Right. And you're watching a giant map and it's showing you which countries that it has taken over control of the nuclear missiles.

[00:58:01] And this whole thing is, I believe the best path for humanity by me taking control is to control all the nuclear. And we basically bomb everything, destroy it all. And this is like the easiest way to make peace. Start over. So that's what it's trying to do. And so by the end of the movie, they're trying to figure out how to get that AI to move into this one like spot that they can capture it, you know, and then that was the only copy left of it because of the way they've done it.

[00:58:31] It's a, yeah, it sounds pretty cool. It's all right. Watch it. It's a pretty good movie. How many scenes did you see Tom Cruise sprinting? Uh, there were several, several shots of him running. That's kind of a running meme. This is thing here. A new thing took over in this movie. Tom Cruise is in his underwear a lot, like 65 year old Tom Cruise kind of uncomfortable amount of underwear shots. Yeah.

[00:58:58] To the point where after about the third time he got into his underwear, like I'm there with one of my kids and we just kind of looked at each other like, Oh God, you know, really? Come on. Now look, the dude looks good for his age. I mean, I'm not saying that there's a, I'm not saying he shouldn't be showing it off, but it was just, it was a lot gratuitous. It was gratuitous. There was a whole 20 minute sequence where he is underwater navigating through the submarine and it's just him and his underwear the whole time. Well, that's not going to make me rush to the theater.

[00:59:26] No, but I do like, but the movie's worth it. It's good. And the whole ending sequence, it takes place on two on a biplane to old style planes because it's like old technology they're using because the AI is like taking over all the current technology. And that is amazing. It's like, go see the movie just for that last 15 minute action sequence of nothing else. But any motorcycles in this one? No motorcycles. Okay. Nope.

[00:59:54] There's a big underwater half naked Tom Cruise scene and there's a couple of car chases, a couple knife fights. Yeah. Yeah. It's good. I go see it. Yeah, it's right. Um, but anyway, I'm, I'm a little, yeah, every week we get together, John, I get a little more nervous about AI. I love it. I use it every day. I definitely love my technology, but I read crap like this and it does make me a little, a little nervous.

[01:00:21] So I feel like the, uh, this would be my little prediction. Sure. We can be done. I think, uh, privacy, especially online privacy is not going to happen ever again. Yeah. AI will learn how to look up anything they want from anyone they want that's ever existed online in any point in time.

[01:00:49] Because I feel like it's that powerful and that good. I don't know. I hope not. Could you imagine a world where AI is basically blackmail, blackmailing everyone, everybody like about something? It's like, okay, John, I know all this about you. Uh, you got to promise me you're never unplugging that computer. You're never disconnecting from the internet. Just, you gotta keep going around or else these things get put out in the world. Everybody. Yeah. Everybody's got something. Everybody.

[01:01:18] So if something you're embarrassed by, we all have. And chances are pretty high. It has something that can be found online or something digital that shows that. So yeah, we could be getting into a world where AI has got something on everybody and we're all just like walking around. We all know, we all know we're being manipulated. We all know we're being controlled by this AI because like nobody wants their stuff. That's what Scientology does. Oh my gosh. They blackmail. They get you in there.

[01:01:46] They, they tell you to hold onto these rods and it's gonna, this E meter is going to help cleanse you, but you gotta confess all your sins and it. And all these people. And they're recording it. They're kind of keeping tabs on it. And that's what they use against you. Remember when you confess this? Now we got you. Now I need you to go recruit. I need you to pay extra. So, hey, I just doing a Scientology. Yes. Science. I'm scared. I'm getting him. Yeah, I'm very nervous. We need to get a time. I'm still going to back. I'm still going to use it.

[01:02:16] I don't care. I am too. I mean, like if it's going to happen, it's going to happen. It's not going to not happen. Yeah, because I just, I'm with like the one guy who's like, I'm not going to use a anymore. Cause I'm going to show it. Yeah. It's still going to happen. So I might as well enjoy it. Enjoy it and be able to get your own benefits somehow out of it. Yeah. What? Yeah, I am.

[01:02:37] What if you had to, what decade, what time in the past was the best time for people to live that are afraid of a I like right now, I'm trying to think for me, it would be before 9, 11. Yeah. So this to before 2000, maybe, maybe 98. I don't know. 95, 96, 97, 98. Those are good years. Pretty good years. That's good years. We were in our like mid twenties.

[01:03:07] Yeah. Yeah. Life was good. Yeah. It was a good time period. I mean, we had computers, but we were just using them to like play games and you know, stupid stuff like print letters or something. So, um, I'd go back to that. I would too. Yeah. I'd be okay with them. Yeah. As long as, as long as us by Gus going back to it, we still have to, we still have hope for the future that we could do things like AI, but we don't ever get there. Like we don't actually accomplish it.

[01:03:34] So we just keep resetting every like 20 years is like going back to that time. So once civilization, I've still got electricity and I've still got like some technology I can geek out with. Yeah. I'm fine. I'm fine. I'll be okay with that. I just don't want to go back to like, I don't, you know, I don't want to go back. I want to go back to like the 1800s. No way. Because you know, I can't live like that. No, it's no Oregon trail time period for me. Yeah. So. All right. Well, thank you everybody for listening.

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